4 hours ago, RLC said:

Since 2021, Jalen Carter is really the only "character" risk they took. They got A+ guys in Dickerson, Nolan Smith, Sydney Brown, Nakobe Dean, etc.

2020 & 2019 was ROUGH character wise: Reagor, Quez, Hightower, Dillard, JJAW, etc. 

Football character matters.

A distinction I’ve seen made is "football character” vs "off field” or "non football character.”

You can have a guy who works hard and takes football very seriously who is also an arse in his free time. This being the "non football character” concern.

That is the type of guy you can maybe take a chance on. 20 year olds often do stupid things but grow out of it as they mature — the most extreme example being Michael Vick. Of course, it’s often not the team that drafts the guy that gets to benefit from the maturation process.

The guys who are lazy but talented don’t have much of a chance. The NFL is just too demanding and the competition is too great.

My preferred free agents are way way different from what I’m seeing here. No. 1 is Pascal Siakam. He’s aggressive, can score, is a beast on the boards, and plays defense. No. 2 is Mikal Bridges. All those Villanova guys can play the whole game, as we just finished seeing. Siakam is 30 and Bridges 27. You can keep the old guys.

1 minute ago, just relax said:

My preferred free agents are way way different from what I’m seeing here. No. 1 is Pascal Siakam. He’s aggressive, can score, is a beast on the boards, and plays defense. No. 2 is Mikal Bridges. All those Villanova guys can play the whole game, as we just finished seeing. Siakam is 30 and Bridges 27. You can keep the old guys.

Mikal bridges is under contract for another 2 years with the nets. The bridges you are seeing is miles bridges 

16 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Lol, no. Ingram's worst years (since he entered his prime) are better than Tobias best years. I get someone wanting Durant over Ingram as he is the better player, but Ingram is on a different level than Tobias.

 

He's pretty much on that same level and trajectory.  1 time All Star in 8 seasons.

When are we saying Ingram entered his prime?  When he went to New Orleans?  So let's look at that time period.

Brandon Ingram 2019-20 through 2023-2024: .472 FG%, .372 3P%, .511 2P%, .847 FT%, 5.5 TRB, 5.2 AST, 0.8 ST, 0.6 BLK, 2.8TOV and 23.1 PPG on 17.5 FGA per game.

Tobias Harris 2019-20 through 2023-2024: .489 FG%, .373 3P%, .537 2P%, .857% FT%, 6.5 TRB, 3.1 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.6 BLK, 1.5 TOV and 17.6 PPG on 14.0 FGA per game.

 

 

14 minutes ago, just relax said:

My preferred free agents are way way different from what I’m seeing here. No. 1 is Pascal Siakam. He’s aggressive, can score, is a beast on the boards, and plays defense. No. 2 is Mikal Bridges. All those Villanova guys can play the whole game, as we just finished seeing. Siakam is 30 and Bridges 27. You can keep the old guys.

Id love nothing more than to just build a super deep team, like we almost had this year (but they got injured a lot), of younger guys who are less injury prone. Siakam and Bridges sounds really nice, but thats just not Morey's MO.

Hes going to sign the very expensive, past their prime guys to max deals. 

 

It sounds like Butler wants 5 years max salary, so Im not very keen on that.

Rumor has it LeBron would be a 2 year deal with 2nd year as a player option. Thats ideal, and as much as I dont really like him- hes a perfect fit on this team.

Ingram is small in the playoffs. I fear his max contract would be similar to the Tobias Harris contract. Good player, who is not good enough for what he will be paid.

Durant, in a trade would be nice as well since he has 2 years left on his deal. Presumably him and/or LeBron for 2 years fits right in the the Embiid window (if that even exists).

Donovan Mitchell is a younger player who has carried teams on his back offensively in playoffs. Its not a good defensive fit, but Ill take all that offense with he and Maxey in the back court together.

Paul George is old and injury prone, and Morey will likely max him out. I dont love it either but theres a lot of smoke there. I kinda hope LeBron saves us and comes here instead, on a shorter deal.

 

LeBron works out with Maxey. Theres a connection there. And Embiid is tight with Donovan Mitchell. LeBron, and Mitchell seems within the realm of possibility.

 

25 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

It would be a waste of a max contract.

Most are, but it's the cost of doing business.   Certainly don't want to drop max contracts on guys 34 years and older.  

I think the "3 star model" is obsolete, now it's more the 1-2 stars and an athletic 9 man rotation that can play pressure defense and run all night.

And 3 stars over 30 is a great way to deep six a franchise.

Sixers have been hemorrhaging young talent and draft picks for 5 years or so,any surprise they're old and slow?

20 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Mikal bridges is under contract for another 2 years with the nets. The bridges you are seeing is miles bridges 

Rats. Well, trade for him then.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I think the "3 star model" is obsolete, now it's more the 1-2 stars and an athletic 9 man rotation that can play pressure defense and run all night.

And 3 stars over 30 is a great way to deep six a franchise.

Sixers have been hemorrhaging young talent and draft picks for 5 years or so,any surprise they're old and slow?

I agree with the 2 star model. However, its not possible for the 6ers considering we cant rely on one of our stars to be healthy in playoffs. So we need more stars as long as he is on the team.

 

2 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Most are, but it's the cost of doing business.   Certainly don't want to drop max contracts on guys 34 years and older.  

 

It's what got the Sixers in the mess with Tobias and gets other teams in trouble as well with max contracts.  If you're going out and giving a max contract to an older guy like LeBron, Durant or Jimmy it's because you're going all in on the window we are in of the end of Embiid's prime while Maxey makes his way towards entering his.  

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id love nothing more than to just build a super deep team, like we almost had this year (but they got injured a lot), of younger guys who are less injury prone. Siakam and Bridges sounds really nice, but thats just not Morey's MO.

Hes going to sign the very expensive, past their prime guys to max deals. 

 

It sounds like Butler wants 5 years max salary, so Im not very keen on that.

Rumor has it LeBron would be a 2 year deal with 2nd year as a player option. Thats ideal, and as much as I dont really like him- hes a perfect fit on this team.

Ingram is small in the playoffs. I fear his max contract would be similar to the Tobias Harris contract. Good player, who is not good enough for what he will be paid.

Durant, in a trade would be nice as well since he has 2 years left on his deal. Presumably him and/or LeBron for 2 years fits right in the the Embiid window (if that even exists).

Donovan Mitchell is a younger player who has carried teams on his back offensively in playoffs. Its not a good defensive fit, but Ill take all that offense with he and Maxey in the back court together.

Paul George is old and injury prone, and Morey will likely max him out. I dont love it either but theres a lot of smoke there. I kinda hope LeBron saves us and comes here instead, on a shorter deal.

 

LeBron works out with Maxey. Theres a connection there. And Embiid is tight with Donovan Mitchell. LeBron, and Mitchell seems within the realm of possibility.

 

Like we said on the Sixers thread, Donovan Mitchell is likely going to be tied to the Sixers as well. He’s good friends with embiid. He’s good friends with Michael Rubin. You can see the Sixers going after him because he still young. I don’t think the fit defensively works. if the Cavs lose this series to the magic, it becomes more realistic that he is going to ask out or push the envelope to get out after this year. He has a player option in 2025–26. Meaning he is going to turn down that option so he’s a free agent at the end of next year. All reports are he is not going to re-sign with the Cavaliers at the end of his deal. So the Cavs have to either play it out and see if those reports are false or they’re going to have to make a move with Donovan Mitchell this off-season. I think it’s more realistic that if the magic beat them in game seven that they’re going to wind up trading Donovan Mitchell.

Damn Trae turner said he’s likely out 6 weeks. He and Bohm were crushing it so far this year 

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

It's what got the Sixers in the mess with Tobias and gets other teams in trouble as well with max contracts.  If you're going out and giving a max contract to an older guy like LeBron, Durant or Jimmy it's because you're going all in on the window we are in of the end of Embiid's prime while Maxey makes his way towards entering his.  

I'd rather go younger.  The teams with youth with a vet here and there are winning.  The teams with older rosters are showing their age.  Sixers sure did.  Don't want a bunch of old guys who have nothing in the tank for the playoff grind.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Damn Trae turner said he’s likely out 6 weeks. He and Bohm were crushing it so far this year 

Looks like it's Scott Kingery time.

6 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Excuse me...

Best record in MLB.

Elevator going up!

45 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Looks like it's Scott Kingery time.

Nope. Gonna be Clemens called up and merrifield/sosa at 2nd or short

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id love nothing more than to just build a super deep team, like we almost had this year (but they got injured a lot), of younger guys who are less injury prone. Siakam and Bridges sounds really nice, but thats just not Morey's MO.

Hes going to sign the very expensive, past their prime guys to max deals. 

 

It sounds like Butler wants 5 years max salary, so Im not very keen on that.

Rumor has it LeBron would be a 2 year deal with 2nd year as a player option. Thats ideal, and as much as I dont really like him- hes a perfect fit on this team.

Ingram is small in the playoffs. I fear his max contract would be similar to the Tobias Harris contract. Good player, who is not good enough for what he will be paid.

Durant, in a trade would be nice as well since he has 2 years left on his deal. Presumably him and/or LeBron for 2 years fits right in the the Embiid window (if that even exists).

Donovan Mitchell is a younger player who has carried teams on his back offensively in playoffs. Its not a good defensive fit, but Ill take all that offense with he and Maxey in the back court together.

Paul George is old and injury prone, and Morey will likely max him out. I dont love it either but theres a lot of smoke there. I kinda hope LeBron saves us and comes here instead, on a shorter deal.

 

LeBron works out with Maxey. Theres a connection there. And Embiid is tight with Donovan Mitchell. LeBron, and Mitchell seems within the realm of possibility.

 

Mitchell is a selfish me first kind of guy. No freaking way

4 hours ago, jsb235 said:

Started watching this guy's film breakdowns and they have been pretty good so far. Here he looks at the issues in our defense last season, and there's a lot not to like.

He also did one on Jalyx Hunt which I think illustrates why the Eagles are intrigued and exactly how far he needs to go.

I think there's a lot to be excited about as we have the building blocks in place for a really good defense. But it's also clear that we may have to deal with some pretty significant growing pains along the way. I think a lot of people are in the "we just need better corners and everything will be okay" mindset, when the reality is that the defensive line had some major issues with our scheme, and those need to get better as well.     

These were excellent. 

2 hours ago, just relax said:

Rats. Well, trade for him then.

If only we had drafted him…

2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He's pretty much on that same level and trajectory.  1 time All Star in 8 seasons.

When are we saying Ingram entered his prime?  When he went to New Orleans?  So let's look at that time period.

Brandon Ingram 2019-20 through 2023-2024: .472 FG%, .372 3P%, .511 2P%, .847 FT%, 5.5 TRB, 5.2 AST, 0.8 ST, 0.6 BLK, 2.8TOV and 23.1 PPG on 17.5 FGA per game.

Tobias Harris 2019-20 through 2023-2024: .489 FG%, .373 3P%, .537 2P%, .857% FT%, 6.5 TRB, 3.1 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.6 BLK, 1.5 TOV and 17.6 PPG on 14.0 FGA per game.

 

 

Lol, so you're just going to ignore the fact that he averages 6 more points per game and nearly 3 more assists per game. Or how about the fact that Tobias is 31 and has been a declining scorer in recent years and Ingram is only 26.........and to think you went through all of that trouble to be cute with that meme for nothing 🤣

8 hours ago, RLC said:

Since 2021, Jalen Carter is really the only "character" risk they took. They got A+ guys in Dickerson, Nolan Smith, Sydney Brown, Nakobe Dean, etc.

2020 & 2019 was ROUGH character wise: Reagor, Quez, Hightower, Dillard, JJAW, etc. 

Football character matters.

What’s rough about the character of anyone from 2020 and 2019?  You just hate them because they are busts.  None of those guys got in trouble or were questionable characters.  They just sucked.

And I see no reason to be sure the others are A+ guys…just more successful football players and therefore easier to like.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/trevor-keegan-signs-his-rookie-contract

Durant and Lebron are absolute pipe dreams. They most certainly aren't going anywhere.

Just like the Sixers are a perpetual cycle of fans going into the season with a "Wake me up with you get to the ECF" attitude, then by January everyone talking themselves into the Sixers being able to make a Finals run only to get disappointed again, every year the fans do the same cycle with free agency. Bring up all these pie in the sky names as possibilities then get heartbroken when the Sixers wind up an underwhelming option.

I think Paul George, Jimmy Butler, Pascal Siakam, OG Anunoby, and Dejounte Murray are going to be the best you're probably going to get. And I'm not even sure how many of those are realistic. Paul George is from California, probably wants to stay there and I don't see why Balmer would let him go when it's not like him going will allow them cap space. It's basically try again with Harden/Kawhi/George or blow it up. No in between. Miami probably won't get much for Butler in a trade so will probably decide they might as well keep him. Unless he demands to be traded. Indy traded for Siakam so will probably be motivated to keep him so they didn't blow trade assets on a rental. Same with Anunoby.

I really think there's a high probability Morey could strike out completely this summer and have to decide between using all the cap space on role players or blowing all their picks for a guy like Ingram, who I believe is the most realistic option this summer, although far from the most appealing.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Durant and Lebron are absolute pipe dreams. They most certainly aren't going anywhere.

Just like the Sixers are a perpetual cycle of fans going into the season with a "Wake me up with you get to the ECF" attitude, then by January everyone talking themselves into the Sixers being able to make a Finals run only to get disappointed again, every year the fans do the same cycle with free agency. Bring up all these pie in the sky names as possibilities then get heartbroken when the Sixers wind up an underwhelming option.

I think Paul George, Jimmy Butler, Pascal Siakam, OG Anunoby, and Dejounte Murray are going to be the best you're probably going to get. And I'm not even sure how many of those are realistic. Paul George is from California, probably wants to stay there and I don't see why Balmer would let him go when it's not like him going will allow them cap space. It's basically try again with Harden/Kawhi/George or blow it up. No in between. Miami probably won't get much for Butler in a trade so will probably decide they might as well keep him. Unless he demands to be traded. Indy traded for Siakam so will probably be motivated to keep him so they didn't blow trade assets on a rental. Same with Anunoby.

I really think there's a high probability Morey could strike out completely this summer and have to decide between using all the cap space on role players or blowing all their picks for a guy like Ingram, who I believe is the most realistic option this summer, although far from the most appealing.

Murray and Siakam would be pretty darn good.

Former Eagles great Hakeem Butler with 6 for 134 yards and 2 TD’s. Howie screwed up again