14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Albert breer just on cowherd said if sirianni wasnt retained he believes the head coach that it wouldve been belichick or vrabel as the HC. 

If Sirianni bombs this year, I'm guessing next year it'll be Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowik, or Belichick.

I do think the Belichick chances might have run its course though. Each year he gets older, he'll be less attractive to Lurie as a candidate because he has less and less staying power. Dude might only coach a couple more years.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If Sirianni bombs this year, I'm guessing next year it'll be Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowik, or Belichick.

I do think the Belichick chances might have run its course though. Each year he gets older, he'll be less attractive to Lurie as a candidate because he has less and less staying power. Dude might only coach a couple more years.

Frankly if the giants suck this year and are like a 5-6 win team team i could see Mara just cleaning house and hiring belichick. And also breer in the interview says belichick still has a lot of fondness for the giants organization and even gets emotional about it. So i wouldn’t be shocked if he took that job. Especially cause defensively they have some nice pieces in Thibodeaux, Lawrence and burns to build around.

Still think Ben Johnson would be the guy lurie would covet as he’s a young innovative offensive minded coach that’s gotten the most out of Goff. Could see him think this is his new Andy Reid. Slowik was the guy i really liked. I think he’d also be involved. 

19 hours ago, Know Life said:

 But would you tongue punch her fart box?

If it was right after a shower?  Yes

If it was a few hours after a Chipotle bowl?  Also yes  

45 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If Sirianni bombs this year, I'm guessing next year it'll be Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowik, or Belichick.

I do think the Belichick chances might have run its course though. Each year he gets older, he'll be less attractive to Lurie as a candidate because he has less and less staying power. Dude might only coach a couple more years.

Sirianni's job is almost entirely in Kellen Moore's hands, which is a bit of weird thing.

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Jags with a glorious throwback

 

These teams that have gone to basically practice uniforms need to switch back to their striped roots. How they think this looks better is beyond me.

Not going to lie..... I pay so little attention to the Jags that if you showed me that picture I would have never guessed it's a throwback

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Albert breer just on cowherd said if sirianni wasnt retained he believes the head coach that it wouldve been belichick or vrabel as the HC. 

Assuming Sirianni was let go because he didn't want to change the OC like Lurie and Howie wanted, why would Belichick want this job? I am also not sure they would want Vrabel who kept Tim Kelly as his OC despite the team being near the bottom of the League for offense the last 3 seasons.  

Just now, paco said:

Not going to lie..... I pay so little attention to the Jags that if you showed me that picture I would have never guessed it's a throwback

What Jag are we talking about? 

2 hours ago, eglz1 said:

I remember Sirianni saying that the Eagles offense was going to run through A.J., DeVonta and Goedert. It's not really a surprise that they got the lions' share of the attempts. It seems to me that Jeffrey & Howie are determined to fill the sky with footballs even though the team has proven that a balanced offense or even a little run heavy has produced better results.

Which just enabled a QB to not take what was in front of him and make an already rancid O, a hell of a lot worse

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

What Jag are we talking about? 

Mark Brunell?

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Albert breer just on cowherd said if sirianni wasnt retained he believes the head coach that it wouldve been belichick or vrabel as the HC. 

I don't know about Vrabel but if Jeffrey and Howie want as much 'input' as they're rumored to want, I sure don't see Belichick being happy with that arrangement. I doubt Vrabel as well. They probably want a head coach who will salute and execute.

On 7/17/2024 at 10:10 AM, RLC said:

So we got a good UDFA class

Why did they get drafted if they are on an NFL roster?

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Assuming Sirianni was let go because he didn't want to change the OC like Lurie and Howie wanted, why would Belichick want this job? I am also not sure they would want Vrabel who kept Tim Kelly as his OC despite the team being near the bottom of the League for offense the last 3 seasons.  

I think vrabel is a good motivator type of coach and defensive mind. Frankly i don’t really believe Lurie would go defensive minded unless it was belichick cause of the success belichick had in NE. Tbh if sirianni gets fired i still think Ben Johnson is their no. 1 target and slowik is also likely up there 

was also a report belichick and Howie could work together. Frankly only think belichick coaches for 3-4 years to get the record 

 

The knock on Kellen Moore has been that he gets too pass-happy.  We will see what happens this season, because that was generally a downside with Sirianni's playcalling as well.

It will be interesting to see how much Moore can get out of Hurts as a passer, because Dak isn't exactly the most talented or laser-armed QB in the league, either.

2 hours ago, schuy7 said:

Sirianni's job is almost entirely in Kellen Moore's hands, which is a bit of weird thing.

It’s a very strange situation. If Kellen Moore gets Hurts to play close to like he did in 2022, he will be viewed across the league as a coach that can get the most out of a young promising QB.  And if that’s the case, he will be hired as a head coach someplace else, and Hurts will, once again, have to endure another offensive coaching change.  That is not a recipe for long-term success.  A previous post showed how most of the offense is locked up for the next 2–3 years.  Howie clearly structured this as a 3 year window. Having multiple coaching changes within that window is not ideal.  
 

I wonder if a scenario exists where Kellen Moore can prove himself, yet Sirianni fails.  It does not seem very likely, but the Eagles could fire Nick and replace him with Moore to keep fluid on offense moving forward.  

I really have no idea if Kellen Moore would be a good head coach or not… I just know that multiple offensive coaching changes is never a good thing for a QB.  Some people, who are thinking Hurts is not the answer, will state that the quarterback is obviously a coach killer… and that is the problem.  But looking at my above hypothetical scenario, how would that be the case if two of the three coaching changes were due to a high degree of success and coaches being poached by other teams because of that success?  

This may be a far-fetched scenario, but it’s not impossible…

37 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think vrabel is a good motivator type of coach and defensive mind. Frankly i don’t really believe Lurie would go defensive minded unless it was belichick cause of the success belichick had in NE. Tbh if sirianni gets fired i still think Ben Johnson is their no. 1 target and slowik is also likely up there 

was also a report belichick and Howie could work together. Frankly only think belichick coaches for 3-4 years to get the record 

 

Belicheck is still an excellent coach, but he'd bring in McDaniels as his OC and that's such an awful fit for our personnel that it would fail. 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Belicheck is still an excellent coach, but he'd bring in McDaniels as his OC and that's such an awful fit for our personnel that it would fail. 

how do you know Bill is still an excellent coach?

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

how do you know Bill is still an excellent coach?

I would trust him completely if he wanted to just be a defensive coordinator, but I highly doubt that that’s what he’s looking for at this point.  

46 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think vrabel is a good motivator type of coach and defensive mind. Frankly i don’t really believe Lurie would go defensive minded unless it was belichick cause of the success belichick had in NE. Tbh if sirianni gets fired i still think Ben Johnson is their no. 1 target and slowik is also likely up there 

was also a report belichick and Howie could work together. Frankly only think belichick coaches for 3-4 years to get the record 

 

I'd like to sit in the meeting with Belichick and Howie the first game after the Eagles win but run the ball too much for analytics.  

2 minutes ago, McMVP said:

I would trust him completely if he wanted to just be a defensive coordinator, but I highly doubt that that’s what he’s looking for at this point.  

I hate the Bill talk right now because we are heading in to an exciting season with an excellent coach. Then, if we were to fire Siri due to some unforseen disaster of a season that is not mainly the fault of the QB Id still have 0 interest in Bill. 

He wouldnt just take this talented roster and hit the ground running and turn everything around and make us a dynasty. The QB is not his style of QB. The defense is not his style of defense. He is old and would need years of more roster re-tooling. I dont think he has that long. And I already know our fans are not forgiving enough to give him that long. Theyve been wanting to replace head coaches after every 2 years, even with super bowl appearances. 

Its dumb, and asking for Bill on top of it is lacking self awareness which adds to the dumbness. 

I dont think Bill is still a good coach. I think his time has passed. And I have 0 interest in finding out if he can prove me wrong. Anyone else. #notmyheadcoach

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I hate the Bill talk right now because we are heading in to an exciting season with an excellent coach. Then, if we were to fire Siri due to some unforseen disaster of a season that is not mainly the fault of the QB Id still have 0 interest in Bill. 

He wouldnt just take this talented roster and hit the ground running and turn everything around and make us a dynasty. The QB is not his style of QB. The defense is not his style of defense. He is old and would need years of more roster re-tooling. I dont think he has that long. And I already know our fans are not forgiving enough to give him that long. Theyve been wanting to replace head coaches after every 2 years, even with super bowl appearances. 

Its dumb, and asking for Bill on top of it is lacking self awareness which adds to the dumbness. 

I dont think Bill is still a good coach. I think his time has passed. And I have 0 interest in finding out if he can prove me wrong. Anyone else. #notmyheadcoach

You are now talking about a completely different scenario.  I do not want Bill Belichick as the head coach of this team, for any reason.  
 

If this team fails, there’s no way on gods green earth that anyone can say that Nick Sirianni did not have a big part in that failure.

And as for what type of quarterback Bill Belichick would consider as "his type", nobody really has any idea. He lucked into Tom Brady.

 

22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

how do you know Bill is still an excellent coach?

There is no better schematic defensive coach in the history of the NFL. He had a top 5 defense last year without Judon/Gonzalez most of the season. 

Also still an elite game-manager. Knows when to be aggressive, and when to be conservative. That's a skill.

His offensive schemes are fine, but his GM tendencies mean he plays with a talent deficiency. 

11 minutes ago, RLC said:

Belicheck is still an excellent coach, but he'd bring in McDaniels as his OC and that's such an awful fit for our personnel that it would fail. 

 

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

how do you know Bill is still an excellent coach?

I think Beilichick would be a bad choice.  He would probably bring McDaniels.  Lurie and Howie almost hired him.  I like the idea Vrabel only a little bit more than Belichick.  I tend to think that Sirianni may have more leeway this season than we think. If Howie pushed for the change at OC and Howie brought in the DC, why would the blame for a below expectation season fall only on Sirianni.  If the offense is inconsistent and the defense is mediocre, why would Lurie think Sirianni is the problem as it's not his offense or defense.  I am not saying that Lurie would blame Howie or that Howie would be on the hot seat, but they could just as easily change coordinators before they fire Sirianni this season.  Lurie is rational about these decisions.  He's only going to make a change if he thinks it helps fix the problem. There's a scenario where the team is below expectations and Siranni remains the coach.  

I think there are 2 potential defensive minded coaches to replace Sirianni if they fire him after the next 2 seasons, Josh McDermott and Jim Schwartz.  I think that the appeal to them of a defensive coach would be that it allows Lurie and Howie to have more say in the offensive philosophy.  

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Why did they get drafted if they are on an NFL roster?

Anyone that was eligible to be drafted to the NFL, but didn't, becomes eligible to be drafted by the UFL every year. The team that drafted them hold their rights in the event they don't make an NFL roster. 

I have no idea what strategy UFL teams use to draft though. I'm not sure if they just draft based on overall talent or if they factor in likelihood they think they will end up on their team.

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Anyone that was eligible to be drafted to the NFL, but didn't, becomes eligible to be drafted by the UFL every year. The team that drafted them hold their rights in the event they don't make an NFL roster. 

I have no idea what strategy UFL teams use to draft though. I'm not sure if they just draft based on overall talent or if they factor in likelihood they think they will end up on their team.

Gabe for sure is kept on this the roster.  I’ll defer to the oline experts about the other

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

how do you know Bill is still an excellent coach?

We know for sure that he's not, because he brought in Joe Judge and Matt Patricia to develop his 2nd year starting QB.