5 hours ago, just relax said:

My two cents on Hurts: I think that he, like pretty much every player on the team, lost faith in the coaches and started freelancing. It was clear to everyone in here that the coaches had no answers. If it was clear to us, how much clearer still would it be to the players?

Yup. Hard to blame him. 

That INT in the Seattle game was the best example of this. 

Hurts might have more variance than any QB in the NFL. I could see him being the MVP in 2024 and I could also see him having another meh kinda season where his numbers don't look bad, but we are unimpressed every week and he's sticking to the bad habits.

I think Sirianni's job status is tied directly to how Hurts performs.

20 hours ago, McMVP said:

lol…there are shticks, and then there are ridiculous takes.  I think you are in danger of becoming another form of RR…just in a different way.  But you’re better than that…or I thought. 

There are ways to be critical and make sense along the way…and then there are other ways too I suppose

 

you are inferior

Kempski fantasy trades:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/three-trades-make-sense-eagles-james-bradberry-noah-brown-adam-thielen-eli-ricks/

Eagles CB James Bradberry to the Bills for a sixth-round pick in 2026

Eagles CB Eli Ricks and a fifth-round pick in 2025 to the Panthers for WR Adam Thielen and a seventh-round pick in 2025

Eagles fifth-round pick in 2025 to the Texans for WR Noah Brown and a seventh-round pick in 2025

 

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

If people don't believe Hurts is a top QB then they just never liked him IMO

Top what tho?  Top 5, not based on last year.  Top 10 sure he's right around there.

He was Top 5 after 2022 for sure but you can only be judged on your latest work.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

Top what tho?  Top 5, not based on last year.  Top 10 sure he's right around there.

He was Top 5 after 2022 for sure but you can only be judged on your latest work.

Top 10, probably. Now if he was a top 3 (at one point he was) and he is top 10 now, that points to a problem. He has regressed.

It would be annoying to trade for Noah Brown on a one year deal when he was just there to sign with anyone a few months ago 

13 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Top what tho?  Top 5, not based on last year.  Top 10 sure he's right around there.

He was Top 5 after 2022 for sure but you can only be judged on your latest work.

Definitely top 5

They literally get paid on potential lol

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It would be annoying to trade for Noah Brown on a one year deal when he was just there to sign with anyone a few months ago 

I dont think we will need to trade for a WR. I think we have a solid group of guys competing for the WR3 spot. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont think we will need to trade for a WR. I think we have a solid group of guys competing for the WR3 spot. 

I agree unless we can get a steal

16 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Imagine this scenario for a moment.

Hurts drops back to pass and has a clean pocket. He sees Lane Johnson engaged with the defensive end who is pushing upfield (but is still being controlled by Johnson). Instead of stepping up into the clean pocket and scanning downfield, Hurts decides to drop back even further and then circles to his right, around the defensive end who had been under controlled but is now in a position to chase him. Hurts then runs along the sideline and realizes he will not be able to get back to the line of scrimmage if he keeps it. He realizes that since has been running to his right, there are now no open receivers in the window in front of him. Hurts then chucks the ball out of bounds for an incompletion.

My guess is that according to timing stats, this would count as a play where Hurts had a lot of time. A play like that might take about seven or eight seconds from the time he received the snap until the instant he chucked it away.

Does anything feel wrong about interpreting this play in a positive light ("lookee, Hurts had a lot of time there!")?

Has any Eagles fan ever witnessed a play like the one described? Once perhaps? Twice maybe? Or maybe DOZENS OF TIMES?

 

Yes. Usually when they went four deep and Hurts is waiting for someone to come open against a 2 deep defense that flooded the deep zones, without an outlet.

And when he'd scramble, WRs would fail to execute a scramble drill and give him a clean target.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Definitely top 5

They literally get paid on potential lol

They get paid based on the binary yes/no of whether or not the team is comfortable with them being the franchise QB for the next 3+ years. You can call that potential, but it is not exclusive to top 5 potential.

2 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

you are inferior

I’ll take that as a compliment…

2 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

They get paid based on the binary yes/no of whether or not the team is comfortable with them being the franchise QB for the next 3+ years. You can call that potential, but it is not exclusive to top 5 potential.

The comment wasn't specific to the QBs. That's Howie's philosophy for players on the Eagles. Paying on potential before the market hits

16 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It would be annoying to trade for Noah Brown on a one year deal when he was just there to sign with anyone a few months ago 

This.

16 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Eagles CB Eli Ricks and a fifth-round pick in 2025 to the Panthers for WR Adam Thielen and a seventh-round pick in 2025

Unpopular opinion, but I'd consider it. Not huge on Ricks.

18 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Unpopular opinion, but I'd consider it. Not huge on Ricks.

Hard no on this one for me. Eli Ricks showed he has NFL CB value in the NFL and still has plenty of upside. Adam Theilen is a soon to be 34 year old WR who could possibly be cut after camp. Ricks 100% has trade value, but I want a younger player with upside in return.

A team will lose a CB at some point in training camp and pre-season and call us. 

It's a shame that no team has good LB depth to trade with us.

27 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Hard no on this one for me. Eli Ricks showed he has NFL CB value in the NFL and still has plenty of upside. Adam Theilen is a soon to be 34 year old WR who could possibly be cut after camp. Ricks 100% has trade value, but I want a younger player with upside in return.

I'd prefer a younger player too, but we're an injury to Brown/Smith away from having an issue. Goedert likes to miss time every season as well and Campbell sucks

Ricks likely isn't making the team.  He doesn't have much trade value.  A late pick probably

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Ricks likely isn't making the team.  He doesn't have much trade value.  A late pick probably

I think your best bet to get the most is a player for player swap with him. I’d take a 6/7 if that’s all available but try to get a player instead. 

18 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It would be annoying to trade for Noah Brown on a one year deal when he was just there to sign with anyone a few months ago 

Not if we trade Bradberry for him.

Yeah sucks there's no LB depth out there, would be nice. I could see a Ricks for a WR swap though. Or Ricks and a pick. It makes sense. I really thought the Eagles would do more at WR3 this offseason, it's really the one area they didn't address much at all. I could see another shoe to drop there. The Panthers have Terrace Marshall too who kinda stinks, but whatever. Or maybe Treylon Burks. I could see Howie swapping Ricks for a young underachieving WR and hoping the dart throw pans out if Ricks is on the bubble anyway, they don't have a ton to lose.

21 hours ago, RLC said:

 

That INT in the Seattle game was the best example of this. 

Of him not seeing the field and forcing things. He was 100% to blame especially when he had someone in front of him for the first down. 

Wonder how much it would take to get someone like Dontayvion Wicks. He'd be a solid 3 and he's young. GB has a lot of young talent at the position though and there's really no reason to move him on their end.