5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think they are cutting Steen but I could be wrong.  Hennessy is also listed as number 2 C.  I also don't think Dean is going to be cut and I think he's just as good at STs as BVS.  I don't think Jobe is going to make the roster.  He's not stood out in camp and there's too many people ahead of him.  Hall seems like a practice squad type player.  

I don't know what to make of Hennessy. He's #2 C on the unofficial depth chart but when Jurgens left practice it was Toth who was the second team C who filled in. When Becton and Steen both missed practice one day it was Toth over Hennessy also. Toth is clearly a Stoutland favorite, I think he's in-line for a roster spot over Hennessy who seems to be stuck in the third team vortex.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think they are cutting Steen but I could be wrong.  Hennessy is also listed as number 2 C.  I also don't think Dean is going to be cut and I think he's just as good at STs as BVS.  I don't think Jobe is going to make the roster.  He's not stood out in camp and there's too many people ahead of him.  Hall seems like a practice squad type player.  

Steen is on the roster. No way they are giving up on a 3rd round pick after 1 year. Dean will make it as well - he's been getting 1st team reps. I think Clay goes to bat for Jobe as a ST player, but maybe they cut him and go Ricks. Jobe is more likely to get to the PS, but I think either one would get claimed.

Hennessy is baffling to me. I thought he was close to a lock at the beginning of camp, but he seemingly is getting passed over for reps. With a 500k signing bonus and 750k in guaranteed money, he's a tough cut, but they really aren't playing him in camp. I could see him sticking over Toth who has no guaranteed money as the 10th OL.

15 hours ago, RLC said:

 

 

Nick Foles gave us all joys and memories that last a lifetime.

Enjoy retirement, BDN!

 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Just for fun

# wrong 

BDN

Forever a Legend in Philly

 

28 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I can't stand bud light but I love the design

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

No practice today and I think this team is nearly set. There are a few battles but even those aren't so murky anymore.

CB2: It's clear right now that Darius Slay and Isaiah Rodgers are the starting CBs with their backups being Kelee Ringo and Quinyon Mitchell. 

The question for me comes down to the fact that the Eagles are going to have two starting caliber CB, high draft picks on the bench in Ringo and Mitchell. It's clear Mitchell is CB1 next year (Slay retires). Is the hope the Rodgers plays so well he scores a massive deal in FA and the Eagles get a comp pick, meanwhile Ringo bumps up to CB2? If Rodgers is playing that well, could he lock up an extension during the season making Mitchell/Rodgers the 2025 and beyond CB duo? I mentioned it a few months back but could Rodgers playing well make Kelee Ringo a trade chip? Where does Cooper DeJean fit in all of this?

The Eagles have a 1st (Mitchell) 2nd (DeJean), who cost them two 2nds with Washington, and a 4th (Ringo), who also cost them a 3rd. That's a serious draft investment in CB. I don't think you use those picks for guys to be on the bench. Rodgers cost them nothing outside of a lost season. Trading him for anything OR losing him in FA hoping for a comp pick is a win.

My gut tells me they roll with 8 CB until DeJean is healthy. Slay, Rodgers, Ringo, Mitchell, Maddox, Hall, Jobe, DeJean.

RG: IMO, Mekhi Becton has won this job. The Eagles might not want to say it, but it's Becton's job. While he might not be flashy, he's going to be a road grader and decent at pass protection. He's also new to the position so there's also growth potential. The fact that he's stopped taking backup RT reps (unless I missed something) tells me that Becton is the RG. If he was slated to be the backup, he would still be getting RT looks.

WR3: Johnny Wilson and Britain Covey are your joint WR3. The only battle now is for WR5. Ainias Smith might be a phantom IR. He's been bad, but he's also still pretty high on the return depth chart. I think they see his future potential rather than just this bad camp. I don't see them cutting him so the decision here is do they keep 5 or 6 WR? Parris Campbell's groin injury cost him a roster spot. Unfortunate, but he doesn't have a record of staying healthy and as they say, cant' make the club in the tub. John Ross is probably the winner here. All of the other players can easily clear waivers for the PS. 

IOL: The Eagles have a big old mess of journeyman backups and rookies here. It feels like Dylan McMahon is giving them what they hoped Matt Hennessy was going to. Trevor Keegan seems to be coming on as of late and Darian Kinnard has cooled off a bit. Starting 5 is locked in. Mailata/Dickerson/Jurgens/Betcton/Johnson. Fred Johnson is backup tackle. Brett Toth is swing T/G. McMahon and Keegan both make the team as backup C and G. OL 10 is the battle. Does Hennessy get the position based on his past NFL experience? Kinnard has potential and the Eagles seem to like him. The odd man out might be Tyler Steen via trade.

 QB (3) Hurts, Pickett, Mckee

RB (6) Barkley, Gainwell, Shipley

WR (12) Brown, Smith, Wilson, Covey, Ross, Smith

TE (15) Goedert, Calcaterra, Jenkins

OL (25) Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Becton, Johnson, F. Johnson, Toth, Keegan, McMahon, Kinnard 

EDGE (31) Huff, Sweat, BG, Smith, Hunt, Johnson

DT (36) Carter, Davis, Williams, Ojomo, Tuipulotu 

LB (40) White, Baun, BVS, Trotter

CB (48) Slay, Rodgers, Ringo, Mitchell, Maddox, Jobe, Hall, DeJean

S (52) CJGJ, Blankenship, Bradberry, McCollum

ST (55) Elliott, Mann, Lovato 

I'm 2 over with only 3 safeties not including Sidney Brown on PUP. Once healthy, DeJean takes Tyler Hall's spot. Ainias Smith either turns it on or goes to IR leaving them with 5 WR. That puts them at 53, Brown on PUP.

 

I guess you don't like Steen and Nakobe Dean.

I would think they both make it, and I think Steen is the starting RG.  

Becton is supposedly capable of backing up 4 spots, and I think that'll happen.  If you can do that,  I'm not sure exactly why the Eagles really need a total of 10 OL.  

LT - Mailata / Becton
LG - Landon / Becton / Keegan
C - Jurgens / Hennessy / McMahon
RG - Steen / Becton / Hennessy / Keegan
RT - Lane / Becton

There are 9 there. 
and then these 3 - F. Johnson, Toth, Kinnard.    Is there a plan to use a platoon system,  having great OL sit so that one of those 3 can use the special skills that they have,  like Becton's size, situationally?  My guess is no?  Are those 3 special teams guys?   It seems to me that those 3 are only going to play, anywhere,  if there are multiple injuries.  Are they all needed on the 53,  in case there are multiple injuries?  Are those players capable of getting to the practice squad,  or will they all be snatched up?  If a T goes down,  that's where Becton goes.     If a G goes down,  that's where Becton goes,  unless a T is down.  Keegan and Hennessy can play G.   Hennessy and McMahon can do C.  

There are a lot of positions where you don't want your starters to play 100% of the snaps.   Most NFL teams don't have their WRs playing 90+% of the snaps.  The Eagles aren't crafting their rosters for things like "what happens if Brown AND Smith are down".   I think 9 with some on the practice squad.

TE - Jenkins, with only 3 TEs?  I don't think so.  Uzomah or Albert O I would think before Jenkins. 

WR - Ross and Smith but no Campbell.  Don't think so.   A Smith does seem like a phantom IR candidate.   The Eagles are in good shape with Covey + Campbell as the weapony, versatile  WR3/slot spot.  A Smith seems like a 3rd string WR3,  he's smallish and weaponyish,  but he's a rookie,  there aren't many snaps.   When there are 2 TEs,  there would generally not be 3 WRs.  Johnny Wilson is a big WR,  the Eagles don't have a lot of them,  so, in situations like red zone and blocking,  you'd want him in there, and he could replace D Smith in some of those situations.  You have Covey,  Campbell,  neither one of whom is likely to get a whole lot of snaps,  not like Brown and D Smith.  I just don't see any need to have A Smith out there, and he's a rookie, which generally isn't desired, and phantom IR seems the way to go.  He does offer positional versatility, and he should get a little better,  for 2025 and later.  

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Some reporters listing Campbell as stock down and saying he may not make the team. I'm a little surprised by that. Word is he was having a good camp before he got hurt. And they will likely keep 5 WRs. Brown, Smith, Covey(as PR/WR), Wilson. That's 4. There's no chance they keep Ross over him. Ainias Smith feels like a very obvious phantom IR candidate. Unless they trade for someone I don't see how he doesn't make it. Especially since if Wilson turns out to not be ready for real game action, who would be WR3? Covey? I mean, seriously.

I like what the Eagles have
WR 1 Brown / Wilson
WR 2 Smith / Wilson (situational blocking use)
WR 3 Campbell / Covey

Ross would be 6,  and A Smith should be phantom IR.  I don't think it's such a crazy thing if Covey is a starter at slot over Campbell, but I'd assume it would be Campbell.  Covey has been getting open and making catches.  

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

There is a real chance that team implodes. I am assuming they get Lamb back for week 1. But I am very down on their O Line -- their LT is a raw prospect who played like 8 games at RT in college, their C is a PS guy and the RT stunk last year. They lost Armstrong and Fowler who added 11.5 sacks last year as the 3rd and 4th DE, and with Williams out, they have basically nothing behind Parsons and Lawrence. Their DTs are still awful, and they are very weak up the middle. If they get off to a bad start, it could spiral fast.

Lamb will be back for week 1...when he will likely pull a hammy

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

I think it will be unofficially retired the same way 12 is.

And both should be in circulation. Randall and Foles are all-time Eagles. Randall did everything but win in the post-season. Injuries, immature attitude and coaching killed his career here. Foles brought the Eagles the SB and set some wild records as an Eagle. Love them both as Eagles, but neither of them are number retire worthy.

It's a shame we have DE wearing 0 and 19. Undersized DE and ILB wearing 3 and 17 Punter wearing 10 and a 3rd down back wearing 14. Those numbers, along with 9 and 12 should all be available for WR.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

And both should be in circulation. Randall and Foles are all-time Eagles. Randall did everything but win in the post-season. Injuries, immature attitude and coaching killed his career here. Foles brought the Eagles the SB and set some wild records as an Eagle. Love them both as Eagles, but neither of them are number retire worthy.

It's a shame we have DE wearing 0 and 19. Undersized DE and ILB wearing 3 and 17 Punter wearing 10 and a 3rd down back wearing 14. Those numbers, along with 9 and 12 should all be available for WR.

I think it makes sense to have 9 and 12 in circulation, but only given to players deemed worthy by the team. Kind of like how Dallas handles 88. 

I will not say anything nice about Dallas again.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think they are cutting Steen but I could be wrong.  Hennessy is also listed as number 2 C.  I also don't think Dean is going to be cut and I think he's just as good at STs as BVS.  I don't think Jobe is going to make the roster.  He's not stood out in camp and there's too many people ahead of him.  Hall seems like a practice squad type player.  

-Steen doesn't seem to be as versatile as we thought. I think he could be traded. If they keep him, he's backup RG, that's it.

-I just think McMahon is going to win the backup Center job.

-There are negative reports on Dean every day. It would be surprising to see him cut, but based on reports, he hasn't earned a spot.

-Jobe is making the roster. He's on the 1st team KOR team and is probably their top gunner on punts. You can play him at CB in shorts spurts and not miss a beat.

-Hall is here until DeJean is ready. 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

This is where I am as of now. Few notes:

- I wanted to cut Uzomah and go with 2 TEs on the initial 53. But with $717,500 of guaranteed money ($167,500 signing and $550,000 guaranteed salary) I think he makes the team. No need to play the game for week 1 to avoid guaranteeing the $435k of salary that is currently not guaranteed

- It came down to P. Johnson or A. Smith. I went with Johnson for special teams and Smith either gets a phantom IR or hopefully gets through to the PS.

- I'm officially calling Maddox a safety

- Jobe stays for special teams

- Bradberry stays as his salary is guaranteed, and he has embraced safety. No savings from cutting him. 

- Toth beats out Kinnard for the 10th OL spot

- S. Brown on PUP to start

I could see where Tuilopoto may get left off of the roster.  I agree Maddox is kept as a safety as is Bradberry.  

Just now, vikas83 said:

I think it makes sense to have 9 and 12 in circulation, but only given to players deemed worthy by the team. Kind of like how Dallas handles 88. 

I will not say anything nice about Dallas again.

Agreed. Have been saying this for years. We can make this a negative post about Dallas though. Their current 88 has officially been listed as Did Not Report. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I could see where Tuilopoto may get left off of the roster.  I agree Maddox is kept as a safety as is Bradberry.  

Tuipulotu is the current DT5 but he's going to get pushed once the games start. One of the Eagles beats has been raving about Thomas Booker. Gabe Hall is a specimen and I think he's going to flash in games. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

-Steen doesn't seem to be as versatile as we thought. I think he could be traded. If they keep him, he's backup RG, that's it.

-I just think McMahon is going to win the backup Center job.

-There are negative reports on Dean every day. It would be surprising to see him cut, but based on reports, he hasn't earned a spot.

-Jobe is making the roster. He's on the 1st team KOR team and is probably their top gunner on punts. You can play him at CB in shorts spurts and not miss a beat.

-Hall is here until DeJean is ready. 

Steen has been hurt but was immediately number 2 at RG.  I don't think that's someone they cut.  

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Steen has been hurt but was immediately number 2 at RG.  I don't think that's someone they cut.  

I don’t know where the Steen getting cut talk is coming from.  I don’t see that as a possibility at all

1 minute ago, McMVP said:

I don’t know where the Steen getting cut talk is coming from.  I don’t see that as a possibility at all

I was playing around with the final 53 and thought more versatile players would benefit the Eagles more. I suggested him as a trade piece, not an outright cut. No way do they cut him.

 

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

This is where I am as of now. Few notes:

- I wanted to cut Uzomah and go with 2 TEs on the initial 53. But with $717,500 of guaranteed money ($167,500 signing and $550,000 guaranteed salary) I think he makes the team. No need to play the game for week 1 to avoid guaranteeing the $435k of salary that is currently not guaranteed

- It came down to P. Johnson or A. Smith. I went with Johnson for special teams and Smith either gets a phantom IR or hopefully gets through to the PS.

- I'm officially calling Maddox a safety

- Jobe stays for special teams

- Bradberry stays as his salary is guaranteed, and he has embraced safety. No savings from cutting him. 

- Toth beats out Kinnard for the 10th OL spot

- S. Brown on PUP to start

That one right there seems closer to accurate.  

22 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I was playing around with the final 53 and thought more versatile players would benefit the Eagles more. I suggested him as a trade piece, not an outright cut. No way do they cut him.

I would consider him to be rather versatile if he can play G and OT at need

I don’t see a trade either.  He was the 65th overall selection (top of the 3rd).  Teams are well aware of what Stoutland can do with lineman over time, and he’s only been here for one year with basically no playing time.  If Howie approached any team dangling him as bait, I think it would be seen as a red flag on the player and he would not get the value.

3 hours ago, garingovt2000 said:

Any non big name guys you think might get cut by other teams that you think we will have interest in?  

If the Eagles are interested in another huge OL,  the Eagles should pay attention to Cleveland and Faalele on Friday on the Ravens.  I would think the Ravens would keep both of them,  but apparently the long term trend on that OL is toward smaller faster guys.  I like both Cleveland and Faalele.