23 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think that's 10 players total. Is it: Kelce, Cox, Penny, Leonard, Roby, Julio Jones, Noah Togiai, Christian Elliss and Justin Evans? 

Not every team has two retired players… I’m sure some probably don’t have any. Plus, Penny just signed (I want to say w/ the Panthers).  I’m not sure that graphic really tells much of a story.

27 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think that's 10 players total. Is it: Kelce, Cox, Penny, Leonard, Roby, Julio Jones, Noah Togiai, Christian Elliss and Justin Evans? 

Elliss is still on the Patriots. I don't know if they are counting Penny or not but he's signing with Carolina. Togiai is also still here. You're missing Cunningham and Shaun Bradley. 

7 hours ago, just relax said:

Ignored?

White added as free agent. Trotter jr. drafted.

Plus three edge guys in Hunt (FA), Huff, and Baun (drafted).

Or would you rather we had not drafted Mitchell and DeJean and picked an LB instead? The first ILB drafted was Cooper at #45. Better to have him or DeJean?

ILB not OLB.

White was Benched in TB, we'll see if Vic can get him back on the right track but thats not a given, more a question mark going in.

Theres a reason trotter fell to the 5th, hes small and tested poorly, Most teams dont count on a 5th rounder to come in and start, I cant imagine Trotter will.

And no I wouldnt rather have cooper over mitchell and Dejean, and i still think Howie could have done more at ILB.

I dont have a ton of faith in Dean even when healthy, Burks is a career backup and Vansumaren doesnt have much experience.

We'll see.,🤷‍♂️

 

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yep. I think they are just really hoping he looks much better this year and thrives under Fangio. It temporarily blocks Mitchell a bit but I really think they would be fine if he didn't have to start right away. 

I think a bad season with Dumb & Dumber as defensive coordinators made so many people forget that Bradberry was 2nd team all-pro under Jonathon Gannon just one year prior. I actually thought Slay was more deserving that year, but the point stands, Bradberry can still be serviceable in the right circumstances, so we'll just have to wait until camp to see how looks in a revamped secondary and a coordinator that's not one of the worst in the league. His breadth of experience combined with Mitchell still needing to polish up some areas of his game mean he's got the clear advantage to be the starter heading into camp.

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

ILB not OLB.

White was Benched in TB, we'll see if Vic can get him back on the right track but thats not a given, more a question mark going in.

Theres a reason trotter fell to the 5th, hes small and tested poorly, Most teams dont count on a 5th rounder to come in and start, I cant imagine Trotter will.

And no I wouldnt rather have cooper over mitchell and Dejean, and i still think Howie could have done more at ILB.

I dont have a ton of faith in Dean even when healthy, Burks is a career backup and Vansumaren doesnt have much experience.

We'll see.,🤷‍♂️

 

White has always been hot and cold from play to play. He's probably the only player in history to be named an all pro while being graded under 50 by pff. 

I don't think it's a question of hoping Fangio gets him right, but whether or not the team can stomach the bad plays until he makes a good one. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Me neither... what I am saying is, I don't care.   Just get rid of Bradberry... before the start of the season.  

Cut after June 1st seemed to make the most sense financially looking at "over the cap" 

The Young Socialite

 

 

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Why are we showing Darrell Green?

5' 9" ... generously

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ah... in that case, you don't remember Mark McMillan.    Instead, you posted a photo of Darrell Green.   

It had nothing to do with Mark McMillan.  I was referencing a rather good 5' 9" CB.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Yeah, he was 5'9"

Too tall.

22 minutes ago, Utebird said:

ILB not OLB.

White was Benched in TB, we'll see if Vic can get him back on the right track but thats not a given, more a question mark going in.

Theres a reason trotter fell to the 5th, hes small and tested poorly, Most teams dont count on a 5th rounder to come in and start, I cant imagine Trotter will.

And no I wouldnt rather have cooper over mitchell and Dejean, and i still think Howie could have done more at ILB.

I dont have a ton of faith in Dean even when healthy, Burks is a career backup and Vansumaren doesnt have much experience.

We'll see.,🤷‍♂️

 

My point regarding drafting ILBs is that the pickings were slim and slim left town. White’s problem is discipline, which is Fangio’s forte. Who was out there to make a difference? Let’s name names.

What bugs me about this line of thought is that it’s self-defeating. If there are no good free agents and the draftees are so-so, it’s the Eagles fault they don’t draft Ray Lewis. Doesn’t matter that Ray-Ray is 48 and long  retired. The Eagles ignored the position.

19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Too tall.

 

25 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The Young Socialite

 

 

Ben Simmons:

time planning Met Gala outfit with groovey clock briefcase- 6 months

Time improving free throws- 6 minutes.

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

My point regarding drafting ILBs is that the pickings were slim and slim left town. White’s problem is discipline, which is Fangio’s forte. Who was out there to make a difference? Let’s name names.

Modern college football has made it so hard to find a modern LB. There just aren't many 240+ LBs who can run 4.6 or better AND have good enough instincts. 

As long as at least 1 of Trotter or Dean work out as the instinctive guy who covers well, tackles well, and is in the right place at the right time, I can live with White being a rollercoaster of splash plays, mixed with bad plays. Im looking forward to some splash plays from the LB spot this year. 

13 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Ben Simmons:

time planning Met Gala outfit with groovey clock briefcase- 6 months

Time improving free throws- 6 minutes.

You are overstating his free throw practice time.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I think a bad season with Dumb & Dumber as defensive coordinators made so many people forget that Bradberry was 2nd team all-pro under Jonathon Gannon just one year prior. I actually thought Slay was more deserving that year, but the point stands, Bradberry can still be serviceable in the right circumstances, so we'll just have to wait until camp to see how looks in a revamped secondary and a coordinator that's not one of the worst in the league. His breadth of experience combined with Mitchell still needing to polish up some areas of his game mean he's got the clear advantage to be the starter heading into camp.

Maybe. Desai/Patricia certainly did him no favors but age isn’t on his side and he looked a step slower. In any event, considering his situation, you might as well see what you got in August before making a decision one way or the other. 

20 minutes ago, just relax said:

My point regarding drafting ILBs is that the pickings were slim and slim left town. White’s problem is discipline, which is Fangio’s forte. Who was out there to make a difference? Let’s name names.

What bugs me about this line of thought is that it’s self-defeating. If there are no good free agents and the draftees are so-so, it’s the Eagles fault they don’t draft Ray Lewis. Doesn’t matter that Ray-Ray is 48 and long  retired. The Eagles ignored the position.

Drafting lb also seems like a total crap shoot. The league is littered with former first rounders who were terrible, and Alex Singleton and TJ Edwards are solid top 20 guys. 

9 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Drafting lb also seems like a total crap shoot. The league is littered with former first rounders who were terrible, and Alex Singleton and TJ Edwards are solid top 20 guys. 

Exactly.

It doesn’t help that folks are rushing to bury Dean because he’s gotten hurt. Did the same with BG, even this year. But no one, no one, has a better idea.

56 minutes ago, just relax said:

My point regarding drafting ILBs is that the pickings were slim and slim left town. White’s problem is discipline, which is Fangio’s forte. Who was out there to make a difference? Let’s name names.

What bugs me about this line of thought is that it’s self-defeating. If there are no good free agents and the draftees are so-so, it’s the Eagles fault they don’t draft Ray Lewis. Doesn’t matter that Ray-Ray is 48 and long  retired. The Eagles ignored the position.

There were some good FA ILB, they were just really expensive.

You know the argument you make above reminds me of similar arguments I made defending Reid when posters would say he ignored WR, but at least he used a 1st on a WR, the wrong one but wasnt for lack of trying.

Howie will never use a 1st on an ILB but the resources hes used havent panned out snd he keeps going the same route.

Maybe ignored was the wrong word, how about mismanaged?

37 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Drafting lb also seems like a total crap shoot. The league is littered with former first rounders who were terrible, and Alex Singleton and TJ Edwards are solid top 20 guys. 

The whole draft is a crap shoot, Im not sure ILB busts out anymore than any other position.

Having said that I have zero problems with Howie not using a first on an ILB but Mike Singletary in his prime could be there and Howie wouldnt draft him.

It would just be nice to have a Good ILB and one thats here longer than a year.

Lets say White turns it around and has a good year, what are the chances Howie re signs him compared to the chances he just lets him walk

And we start the same song and dance 🤷‍♂️

6 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

I was staring at Barkley's quads - no time for glutes

Hey .. no diddlering.

52 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Maybe. Desai/Patricia certainly did him no favors but age isn’t on his side and he looked a step slower. In any event, considering his situation, you might as well see what you got in August before making a decision one way or the other. 

This.  

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

There were some good FA ILB, they were just really expensive.

You know the argument you make above reminds me of similar arguments I made defending Reid when posters would say he ignored WR, but at least he used a 1st on a WR, the wrong one but wasnt for lack of trying.

Howie will never use a 1st on an ILB but the resources hes used havent panned out snd he keeps going the same route.

Maybe ignored was the wrong word, how about mismanaged?

To your first sentence, please name them. Devin White was most assuredly one. Who else? Are you seriously talking Bobby Wagner?

To your second, whom should he have drafted and where?

No argument with the third sentence. No one else did  The miss rate on ILBs that pretty much everybody for the last ten years.

To the fourth, how would you have managed it?

2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The Young Socialite

 

 

This loser was always destined to be a bust.....he is Australian after all 

 

 

And before any of you bring up Mailata - he is a citizen of both Australia and NZ!