13 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

Our #2QB looks like a #2.   I'll never understand why players from a higher draft position or from a trade get more leeway for playing time.  Whatever assets given up to get that player have already been spent.  If they are doing it to keep his trade value high, other GMs watch the games too.  Teams always claim the best player plays (as they should), but the NFL is not a meritocracy. 

My read is that this is business strategy. McKee is clearly the better QB. They don't want to move McKee. Pickett is an asset to build up so that he can be used in a trade. For those viewing it is gaslighting to spin Pickett as better than McKee but once you hear Dave Spindaro spewing something that makes no sense, you know he's been schooled on the party line.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Two words to describe Keegan... and not surprisingly, another Michigan man:

Jon.

Runyan.

I had that thought as well.

34 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Or, I dunno, pass it to the RB.  

Doesn’t solve your issue if a WR goes down. Can’t keep relying year after year on aj brown and smith never to miss time and guys behind them aren’t good enough to be at least competent or reliable in their absence. No offense Ross, Campbell or Wilson as no. 3 isn’t good enough or reliable enough. That’s like just hoping quez was fine as 3 last year then signing julio jones who was basically done at that point. And zaccheaus was also fine as a 4/5 WR but not in that 3 role. 

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Reportedly, Pickett and McKee are neck to neck in practice.

Pickett has two years of NFL game film, a couple Qs of pre-season play with scrubs is not going to make this decision for them.

Howie will never admit it was a stupid trade

 

Sign me up if true. Can't turn down a James Franklin product.

17 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Reportedly, Pickett and McKee are neck to neck in practice.

Pickett has two years of NFL game film, a couple Qs of pre-season play with scrubs is not going to make this decision for them.

 

Reportedly from who?  All the beat reports I've seen throughout training camp indicate that McKee has been the better QB.

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

So, that was somewhat painful to watch last night. Here are my takeaways:

- I don't think Pickett is picking up the offense. Yes, he was under pressure with our 2nd and 3rd string OL against the Pats 1st team defense, but even when he did have time, he didn't know where to go with the ball. He had Ross wide open deep, overthrew him, and then never pushed the ball again. I think he makes the team and is nominally the #2 QB - they aren't cutting him and taking a $4.6mm cap charge. If Hurts were to go down, I wouldn't be shocked if we went to McKee, but Pickett will be #2 on gameday when Hurts is healthy. Basically, Pickett is the new Koy.

- Davis-Price had a nice game, but I still think the 4th RB is going to be on the PS.

- Covey seems to be a lock now. Bummer Wilson was out. Ngata catches everything and really snatches the ball, but just zero separation. He'll be on the PS.

- Jenkins has passed Uzomah, who had a brutal day blocking. 

- I don't know why they love Toth so much, but feels like Stout is going to get his way and have him on the 53. 

- Patrick Johnson is making this team. Monster on special teams, and he looks improved as a pass rusher.

- Ojomo is going to make an impact.

- Ringo got lucky on the one drop, but played really well otherwise. Rodgers was good as well. Feeling optimistic about the CBs.

- Bradberry may make the team, but he really sucks. If they can't trade him, I would cut him and move on. 

- Dean looked really good - feels like we have actual LB depth

Here's where I am at today. Most controversial takes -- Hennessy cut, A. Smith to IR, S. Brown starts on PUP, and Jobe makes it for special teams. I think they can sneak Kinnard to PS.

That's my exact roster, other than Gainwell SHOULD be the #3. I also think they make a move for an outside WR before week 1.

Pickett and McKee both have zero trade value.  The Eagles screwed up giving up draft value for Pickett, but no one else is going to give up value for him after an underwhelming preseason.

Random take -- I'd extend Patrick Johnson. Core special teams guy who looks like he can add something as a pass rusher. Going into the last year of his deal. I'd give him a cheap 2 year extension.

7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Howie will never admit it was a stupid trade

Because it wasn't.

Pickett and #120 for #98 and (2) 2025 7ths.

108 + 2 - 54 = 56

Eagles traded the equivalent of a mid-4th rd pick for two years of control of a NFL starting QB to back up Hurts.

19 minutes ago, just relax said:

He can't run like Kelce, but then no one can. Or, at least they didn't ask him to do any pulling. last night. With that makeshift OL it wouldn't have worked anyway. 

As for Kinnard, he's really grown on me. Johnson is ahead of him I think, but not by a lot. If Steen has to go on the shelf for a while he should make the 53.

Yeah, he’s a tad slower than Kelce but really quick and great explosion.  His quickness and speed are good enough to pull and decent strength. I suspect he pulls just fine but none of that last night. Bechton’s ability to pull is questionable for me.  Steen did seem to do that decently.  

14 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Because it wasn't.

Pickett and #120 for #98 and (2) 2025 7ths.

108 + 2 - 54 = 56

Eagles traded the equivalent of a mid-4th rd pick for two years of control of a NFL starting QB to back up Hurts.

 

He is not a NFL Starting QB.

Bottom line....Howie needed to purchase some insurance...just in case.

He gambled...it's a risk. Hopefully, it doesn't blow up in his face.

11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Yeah, he’s a tad slower than Kelce but really quick and great explosion.  His quickness and speed are good enough to pull and decent strength. I suspect he pulls just fine but none of that last night. Bechton’s ability to pull is questionable for me.  Steen did seem to do that decently.  

We haven’t seen Becton pull but he has good feet and ran a 5.10 40 at 364 pounds. Same time as McMahon at 295.

Bo thinks the Eagles will trade Pickett for a player before the deadline. He believes strongly it makes little sense to keep Pickett.

31 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Pickett and McKee both have zero trade value.  The Eagles screwed up giving up draft value for Pickett, but no one else is going to give up value for him after an underwhelming preseason.

Pickett is the #2 QB on the Eagles,  unless he's traded.  Eagles fans who hate Pickett are rooting for him to suck,  which guarantees that the player they don't like is the #2 QB.  People do not say that Eagles fans are smart.

11 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He is not a NFL Starting QB.

He was in the 20s last season, slightly higher in 2022.

Basically, the scrub starter that teams look to replace, we'll see if Wilson turns out to be an improvement.

He's not a good starter, but better than some of the trash bottom feeders will throw out there this season.

Just now, austinfan said:

He was in the 20s last season, slightly higher in 2022.

Basically, the scrub starter that teams look to replace, we'll see if Wilson turns out to be an improvement.

He's not a good starter, but better than some of the trash bottom feeders will throw out there this season.

 

If he was a starting QB then a team would have acquired him to start.  But no team has, because he isn't.

 

I know it's against a TE, but still encouraging to see

 

31 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Because it wasn't.

Pickett and #120 for #98 and (2) 2025 7ths.

108 + 2 - 54 = 56

Eagles traded the equivalent of a mid-4th rd pick for two years of control of a NFL starting QB to back up Hurts.

Oh is that afan breathlessly defending another dumb move by Howie?

33 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Because it wasn't.

Pickett and #120 for #98 and (2) 2025 7ths.

108 + 2 - 54 = 56

Eagles traded the equivalent of a mid-4th rd pick for two years of control of a NFL starting QB to back up Hurts.

Nope. The whole reason pitt dealt him was that they knew he wasnt a starting qb. He has shown that here so far too

a 4th is quite valuable. It was a stupid trade on the level of Golden Tate

 

7 minutes ago, just relax said:

We haven’t seen Becton pull but he has good feet and ran a 5.10 40 at 364 pounds. Same time as McMahon at 295.

Come on JR, you know all 40 times tell you about OL is their general conditioning.

Though Becton had a good 10 yard split. So he's not a big slug.

However, no leg testing, always want to see the jumps (explosion) relative to weight (25" or above VT would be good for a guy that size, Mailata was 28", 30" would be amazing).

Watching Becton, I don't see a guy with the lateral quickness and balance to hit targets at the second level, nor did I see him explode out of his stance like Brooks.

Becton to me is more the big OT type, good enough first step, but relies on his reach to protect the edge and his size against the bull rush. At guard, he'll have to work on leverage b/c he's facing 320 DTs, not 260 lb speed rushers. And on combo blocks, it'll be Jurgens peeling off to the second level. If he can't explode through his legs (get low and then attack out of his stance) he'll need a good punch to get movement.

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nope. The whole reason pitt dealt him was that they knew he wasnt a starting qb. He has shown that here so far too

a 4th is quite valuable. It was a stupid trade on the level of Golden Tate

 

I think the worst part of the whole equation is that they didn't recognize McKees talent. 

They drafted him. 

They saw him last pre-season.

Then they still felt the need to trade for a backup QB.

The value for a backup QB is ok. And Pickett is a fine backup QB.

The question of why??? is the most puzzling piece of it all to me.

How do you think the secondary will shake out with Rogers, Ringo, Mitchell, and DeJean?

8 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nope. The whole reason pitt dealt him was that they knew he wasnt a starting qb. He has shown that here so far too

a 4th is quite valuable. It was a stupid trade on the level of Golden Tate

 

I would have rather signed a veteran backup QB and kept the draft capital. Jameis got a 1 year, $4 million fully guaranteed deal from CLE. Tyrod Taylor got 2 years, $12 million with $8.5 million guaranteed from the Jets. Pickett is a fully guaranteed 2 year, $4.6 million contract. 

To me, a 4th round pick is worth more than $2-$4 million cap space.