4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Why do the beats lock in to these things so much?

guess

 

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I would argue against Nolan Smith and Jordan Davis being impact players. It only applies to Devonta, Carter and hopefully Mitchell. 

Nolan Smith is a bit of a special case.  I see him more as a 2nd Round pick than a 1st, but your point is valid.  I expect Davis will evolve into an impact player over time.  That is my optimism speaking.

24 minutes ago, paco said:

Yup.

 

I think when he use to follow BobbyWizdum around demanding him to admit the earth was round or he would report him to the mods was the moment I realized he was unstable as hell.

There are some weird people on the internet. 

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I've been one of Deans biggest critics but man, if he can be the player he was at UGA, that would be incredible. 

For sure.  Seems like it was a matter of him being healthy enough to get snaps under his belt and experience on the field.  

Hoping the same for Smith.  The guy has the athleticism and, by all accounts, is a hard worker.  Needs to work on his pass rush moves.  With time on the field he should start thinking less and playing faster

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

I went the Sunday Ticket route when it first came out but never got my money’s worth out of it.  I found that I would watch the Eagles locally (blocked on Sunday Ticket, as were the Ravens as I am in an overlap locale).  So the value was when the Eagles weren’t on.  Frequently that was the late game and the best of the late games was usually what was broadcast. Once Live Broadcast are over, Sunday Ticket is worthless.  So many weeks it offered practically no value and others might be good for a game.  Red Zone’s novelty wore off soon for me.  I purchased what is now NFL+ for the All22 but also discovered that I could watch more games than with Sunday Ticket, just not live, which is fine with me.  And I love the condensed games. 35 minutes, just the plays. The way it clips the announcers is awesome.  It’s a fraction of what Sunday Ticket costs. I get the bonus of preseason games and even preseason All22. 

For me in Northern California the value would be there more than for you, but my inclination is to go to one of the sports bars in town instead.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

It's too bad we didn't make Johnny Wilson a TE. His blocking is awesome and he can't get open at WR.

He's a WR,  his blocking, as a WR,  is very good, for a WR.  But you don't then put him inline at TE and think that he'll do as good a job blocking a DE than he has been doing blocking DBs.  He's taller and heavier than DBs and he's lighter than DEs.  One might argue that his long arms would be helpful in pass protection,  like Tyree Jacksons long arms helped in pass protection. 

People here all decided to think that he wasn't good at getting open because Wiggins was the best coverage CB in the draft and he did a great job against Wilson and also Ross.

Wilson can block,  he's tall, he can jump.  He should be able to win contested catches.  He should be good in the red zone.  Throw the ball high to him,  he'll do ok.   and those combine numbers show he's faster than Mike Evans,  who was and is still fast enough to play WR.

22 minutes ago, Quiet Boy said:

downundermike was a massive fogtag and he chased a lot of good posters off the original board. 

 

i appreciated what bobbywizdum brought to the old board because like RTK, he brought a different perspective to a lot of topics and he was not shy to express them while being absolutely dogpiled. it was a better (livelier) place when he posted there.

I don’t care who posts here or what they post as long as they own up to it, but Bobby crossed several lines, specifically denying sensitive events ever occurred and was warned several times about doing it. 

29 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

Now SI is propping CeeDee up...I would be willing to bet that agents/management companies pay for articles (owners too) to write about the contract situations to gain public opinion for each side...for every high profile contract/player...

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/ceedee-lamb-eyeing-an-unprecedented-milestone

I get people need to get paid, but dang man, how much is enough?

Jerry has no one to blame but himself. They should have locked up Ceedee last offseason, and they could have gotten it done in the upper 20s on an AAV basis, while also keeping the 4th year of the rookie contract and the 5th year option (basically what we did with Devonta the second he became extension eligible). A 3 year, $85mm extension would really have been a 5 year, ~$105mm deal. You could have had him for 5 years at ~$21mm per. By letting it go on this long, and letting AJ and JJ reset the market, Jerry has backed himself into a corner. There's zero reason for Lamb to take a penny less than $34 million now AAV now. Is he better than AJ? Not to me, and I think his numbers are inflated since he is the only weapon on the team. But Jerry is the one who didn't pay him and then force fed him targets. WTF did he think would happen?

I continue to believe that Dallas is looking to rebuild and move on from Dak. 

23 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I never understand complaints about players' salaries.  If he thinks he can get more, then he should try to get more.  I would guess the bigger issue is the timing of the money vs. the annual value.  

Every player should try and get as much as they can, as soon as they can. And every team should try and pay as little as possible. 

Careers are short, and this is a business.

Man, I really just hate what's happened to college football and college sports in general. 

 

 

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Of course it isn't precise.  By definition, tradeoffs are not precise.  Their very either A or B nature means they can't be precise.  Sometimes A will be chosen and sometimes B.

I have come up with my personal 53, but if I had posted that then any discussion of the Bell Squad possibilities would be lost in the discussion of the 53 as an entirety.  Of course I could have presented the older player vs. younger player as a one to one comparison

WR Parris Campbell vs Johnny Wilson

or

C/G/T Brett Toth vs C/G Dylan McMahon

or

ILB Zach Baun vs. ILB Ben VanSumeren

But there isn't a one-to-one position match between the older player list and the younger player list, so the one-to-one comparisons become a bit difficult.

Regarding McCollum Jobe and Ricks, I don't see more than one of those three making the 53, and they all are young, so they fell into a different category..

 

You seemed to put some either/or combinations in there.   Like Campbell vs Wilson.  I don't see that.   And you didn't put other names in there.  Like Ainias Smith.

I think,  with the WRs.   Brown and Smith,  Covey, Wilson, Campbell, Ross (maybe only 5) and Ainias Smith as Phantom IR.  

Some of the thinking is good but,  it also seems like you aren't putting some players into the assessment pool.  Like Ainias Smith,  like McCollum, Jobe, Ricks. 

What you're talking about is good as "in addition, consider these older players won't be grabbed as quickly",  but I would think that you look at the 53 more normally.  

Last post on this -- Dallas is the most terribly run franchise in the NFL from a roster construction and cap allocation perspective, and it's not even close. The team drafts remarkably well and then squanders it all by being stupid and cheap. Carrying Dak Prescott on the books at $55 million this year is complete insanity if they actually extend him. If the plan were to extend Dak, it should have been done BEFORE free agency. If the plan was to move on, then they should have converted his base into a singing bonus and moved ~25mm of the dead hit to 2025 (bringing it to 65mm, but the team is flush with 2025 cap space). Instead, they carried him at $55mm, and Ceedee at $18mm and wrecked their chances in 2025. They lost 2 starting OL, their RB, 2 DEs that had 11.5 sacks last year and their best CB (yes, Gilmore was the best CB last year despite Bland's picks). 

The dumbest possible thing they could do now is extend Dak after allowing his cap number to gut the team. So I guarantee that is what they will do. They have zero ability to plan ahead. They are either stupid or cheap. Or both.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Man, I really just hate what's happened to college football and college sports in general. 

 

 

Does college football have still images of them like this for people to use their phone cameras? Don't see how that works on a moving player during a live game lol

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

 

Think it’s still cheaper on YouTube even if you don’t buy YouTube TV. This is a kick in the you know what though.

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

Think it’s still cheaper on YouTube even if you don’t buy YouTube TV. This is a kick in the you know what though.

I got it when it was the cheapest

Them adding the customized Multiview likely created annual subscriptions for people. That option was all over the suggestion box lol

17 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

you think i'm making points with these?

Nope.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

See? Told you Johnny Wilson is a better athlete.

Without RASholeing them both as a punter, I don't believe you.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Has Ringo played inside during camp? I thought he has mostly played outside CB.  

that's what he's saying.  In Nickel,  Mitchell goes to slot and Ringo (or Rodgers) comes in and plays outside CB.

Eagles have fewest.

I don't think Dallas is going to be the dumpster fire a lot of people think. They lost Quinn which is big, but Zimmer is a good DC. He was out of the NFL for a bit, but was still coaching, so who knows if he's even a downgrade. He might be, but Quinn's had his defenses do no show's in playoff games.

The biggest reason I thought Dallas had a chance to take a step back was the losses on their OL, but if Guyton and Beebe are good, they will be good again. I don't see Lamb sitting out regular season games even if he isn't signed.

I think the Eagles could(should?) finish above them, but I think people have gone too far with Dallas collapsing and things don't usually turn that fast as the narratives turn.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Eagles have fewest.

28 for the Jets…holy hell that’s bad.  

35 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t care who posts here or what they post as long as they own up to it, but Bobby crossed several lines, specifically denying sensitive events ever occurred and was warned several times about doing it. 

I almost forgot about that

15 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Last post on this -- Dallas is the most terribly run franchise in the NFL from a roster construction and cap allocation perspective, and it's not even close. The team drafts remarkably well and then squanders it all by being stupid and cheap. Carrying Dak Prescott on the books at $55 million this year is complete insanity if they actually extend him. If the plan were to extend Dak, it should have been done BEFORE free agency. If the plan was to move on, then they should have converted his base into a singing bonus and moved ~25mm of the dead hit to 2025 (bringing it to 65mm, but the team is flush with 2025 cap space). Instead, they carried him at $55mm, and Ceedee at $18mm and wrecked their chances in 2025. They lost 2 starting OL, their RB, 2 DEs that had 11.5 sacks last year and their best CB (yes, Gilmore was the best CB last year despite Bland's picks). 

The dumbest possible thing they could do now is extend Dak after allowing his cap number to gut the team. So I guarantee that is what they will do. They have zero ability to plan ahead. They are either stupid or cheap. Or both.

Probably true because they do draft well and are usually in the mix of things for the division. They may not win anything, but I can't remember too many years they were horrible. I think there are franchises that are run worse, but only because they can't draft either. 

You are right with the talent they have acquired over the years they are horrible with the cap. Long live Jerry.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

You act as if people's opinions are entirely disconnected from facts.  For the most part, opinions that have traction are connected to specific examples of play.  

Well, I tend to think that people's opinions are often guided by the media.  And the media is trash.  Media in the US is bribed to lie.    However,  I'm not saying you're entirely wrong.

The best pure coverage cb in the draft,  Wiggins, 4.28 combine 40, had 3 great plays in a row,  and then people started saying that the Eagles WRs were slow,  but it was that Wiggins was really fast.  So,  yeah,  there was a data point, a play, a handful of plays,  where the Ravens guy won and the Eagles guy lost.   Those are examples of data points influencing opinions.  Not saying that doesn't happen. 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't think Dallas is going to be the dumpster fire a lot of people think. They lost Quinn which is big, but Zimmer is a good DC. He was out of the NFL for a bit, but was still coaching, so who knows if he's even a downgrade. He might be, but Quinn's had his defenses do no show's in playoff games.

The biggest reason I thought Dallas had a chance to take a step back was the losses on their OL, but if Guyton and Beebe are good, they will be good again. I don't see Lamb sitting out regular season games even if he isn't signed.

I think the Eagles could(should?) finish above them, but I think people have gone too far with Dallas collapsing and things don't usually turn that fast as the narratives turn.

There is still a ton of talent on that team. They will still be a problem. 

32 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Jerry has no one to blame but himself. They should have locked up Ceedee last offseason, and they could have gotten it done in the upper 20s on an AAV basis, while also keeping the 4th year of the rookie contract and the 5th year option (basically what we did with Devonta the second he became extension eligible). A 3 year, $85mm extension would really have been a 5 year, ~$105mm deal. You could have had him for 5 years at ~$21mm per. By letting it go on this long, and letting AJ and JJ reset the market, Jerry has backed himself into a corner. There's zero reason for Lamb to take a penny less than $34 million now AAV now. Is he better than AJ? Not to me, and I think his numbers are inflated since he is the only weapon on the team. But Jerry is the one who didn't pay him and then force fed him targets. WTF did he think would happen?

I continue to believe that Dallas is looking to rebuild and move on from Dak. 

Agreed.  And if they were smart, they should have just cut ties with him this year instead of paying him his base (29 mil) plus roster bonus (5 million).  Sure that adds an additional 11 million hit this year but you save over 34 in the grand scheme.

 

So either they ARENT moving from Dak and are mismanaging their team.  Or they are trying to buy a 3rd round comp pick when Dak signs too much money else where, which means they are mismanaging the team.