2 hours ago, NOTW said:

I don't understand any talk of trading away any corners. They were hot garbage last year. They added 2 unproven rookies and a guy who hasn't played in a year and was never playing FT snaps in Indy. There's promise and potential there, but still unknown. Looking good in camp is one thing, but you have to see how rookies pan out. Rodgers hasn't played in a year. DeJean is coming off injury. Still questions and unknowns in the real games, and they don't play in preseason. At Safety, CJG was out for most of the year after an early injury last year and Brown is on IR. You want depth, not to trade away someone and then be thin on the bench. Ringo (4th round) and Ricks (Undrafted) have some potential but are also still unproven. Slay and Bradberry are likely gone next year.  They need to keep the talent and continue to develop and be ready for depth and injury.

They have a 1st invested in Mitchell. Trade 2 2nds and a 5th get DeJean and pick 78. They traded a 3rd to move up to get Ringo. That's a serious investment in those 3 players. Yes, they are unknowns, but all have extremely high pedigree and aside from DeJean, are looking like the future CBs for the Eagles.

Like you said, Rodgers hasn't played in a year so there's a question mark on him there. He's been getting the most positive press out of anyone on defense and until today was slated as CB2. If they can get another player or a mid-round pick for him it only makes sense. He's not going to sign an extension with the Eagles if Mitchell and Ringo are CB1 and CB2 next year. 

I love how much Rodgers has embraced being an Eagle and Philadelphia and wish there was room for all 4, but I just don't see it happening. 

Dallas loves them some 40 year old ex-Eagles 

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Something this big should have its own thread.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Dallas loves them some 40 year old ex-Eagles 

Mazi Smith 🤣🤣🤣 And Eagles fans think Davis a bust.  That guy is horrible

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's an OG meme. Made funnier because a Walker and a 5th actually landed Terrell Owens

Wasn't it Brandon Whiting?

2 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

This guy gets it. Depth in the secondary is crucial. You don’t simply give it away before the season even starts when you don’t know when it will be needed during the season. 

They finally have depth which is why I think Rodgers can be moved. 

CB1- Slay   CB2- Mitchell   CB3- Ringo   CB4- Chris Rock, I kid, Ricks   CB5- One of Jobe/McPhearson 

Nickel- DeJean. Maddox is the backup here.

Safety1- CJGJ   Safety2- Blankenship   Safety3- Maddox   Safety4- McCollum

PUP- Brown

PS- Shon Stevens, Parry Nickerson, loser of CB5 battle, either Jobe or McPhearson

Rodgers as CB4 is better than Ricks but the return for Rodgers is going to be better than what Ricks brings.

 

1 minute ago, Cliftoma said:

Mazi Smith 🤣🤣🤣 And Eagles fans think Davis a bust.  That guy is horrible

Well Mazi was a late 1st rounder and the Eagles traded up in the 1st for Davis so it’s not exactly apples to apples but agreed. Mazi never really seemed like a good prospect to me. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

They finally have depth which is why I think Rodgers can be moved. 

CB1- Slay   CB2- Mitchell   CB3- Ringo   CB4- Chris Rock, I kid, Ricks   CB5- One of Jobe/McPhearson 

Nickel- DeJean. Maddox is the backup here.

Safety1- CJGJ   Safety2- Blankenship   Safety3- Maddox   Safety4- McCollum

PUP- Brown

PS- Shon Stevens, Parry Nickerson, loser of CB5 battle, either Jobe or McPhearson

Rodgers as CB4 is better than Ricks but the return for Rodgers is going to be better than what Ricks brings.

 

Also have to think about next year when Slay is gone. Mitchell, Ringo, Cooper then a drop off. None of these guys are proven yet either.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

They finally have depth which is why I think Rodgers can be moved. 

CB1- Slay   CB2- Mitchell   CB3- Ringo   CB4- Chris Rock, I kid, Ricks   CB5- One of Jobe/McPhearson 

Nickel- DeJean. Maddox is the backup here.

Safety1- CJGJ   Safety2- Blankenship   Safety3- Maddox   Safety4- McCollum

PUP- Brown

PS- Shon Stevens, Parry Nickerson, loser of CB5 battle, either Jobe or McPhearson

Rodgers as CB4 is better than Ricks but the return for Rodgers is going to be better than what Ricks brings.

 

Just no. We finally have depth and you can’t wait to trade it away.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Dallas loves them some 40 year old ex-Eagles 

That dude has had a career...five teams? He hasn't really had a good year statistically since '20-'21. I hope they didn't pay him much...eh, big enough to fill a gap and keep a LB clean, that's about the best he'll do, and only part time...my guess the only reason he was signed is because he was a Zim guy for 8 years in MN...

 

7 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Well Mazi was a late 1st rounder and the Eagles traded up in the 1st for Davis so it’s not exactly apples to apples but agreed. Mazi never really seemed like a good prospect to me. 

Mazi stunk it up as a rookie last year but I am reserving judgement on the draft pick until after this year. DQ asked him to drop quite a bit of weight last year and changed the way he played vs what he did at Michigan...he has put the weight back on this year.  It doesn't look positive that's for sure...if there is one position that DAL struggles to always get right it's DT.

1 minute ago, Texas Eagle said:

Also have to think about next year when Slay is gone. Mitchell, Ringo, Cooper then a drop off. None of these guys are proven yet either.

Yea I know, but I've brought that up in numerous posts too. Not ignoring that at all. Would Rodgers sign a very team friendly extension based on the Eagles being the only team to give him a chance during his suspension? If he's starting material, he's going to be due a large contract. If that's the case, then Ringo is your 3d round investment back on the bench. I wouldn't be happy if the Eagles traded a 3rd round pick for Ringo just to have him as CB3.

The Eagles don't take their starting CB off the field. Last year, Slay played 98% of the snaps. James Bradberry played 95% of the snaps. Kelee Ringo played 17%. Josh Jobe played 21% of the snaps. Eli Ricks played 28% of the snaps. 

In 2025, Mitchell is CB1, he's not coming off the field. CB2 is Ringo/Rodgers. Again, not coming off the field. If Ringo wins CB2, is Rodgers going to stay here to play 20% of the snaps? I don't see that happening. 

My biggest hold ups with keeping Rodgers are the fact that the Eagles invested a ton in CB in the draft and that Rodgers isn't signed past this year. Rodgers only comes back if he's CB2. Then Ringo is your 3rd round investment playing 17-20% of the snaps. 

 

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

Embiid will break Wilt’s single game scoring record this season…mark my words!

 

Side note…hope everyone is well.  Retirement is awesome (though my retirement from retirement essentially started recently).  Haven’t paid much mind to sports or anything else since the new year when it became official.  Ready for football though and lazy weekends!  

Good to see you! I was watching Land of Bad on Netflix the other day and watching Russell Crowe hit golf balls out of the hangar toward the Vegas strip I was like- I wonder if ferris every hit gold balls there.

 

23 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Well Mazi was a late 1st rounder and the Eagles traded up in the 1st for Davis so it’s not exactly apples to apples but agreed. Mazi never really seemed like a good prospect to me. 

Obviously not but that guy is a slug.  I thought maybe with losing weight he be better but nah he still sucks.  

Davis has at least flashed.  Thought he had a great start to the season then kind of faded.  Let's hope his conditioning this year allows him to carry the play throughout the season and into the postseason

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yea I know, but I've brought that up in numerous posts too. Not ignoring that at all. Would Rodgers sign a very team friendly extension based on the Eagles being the only team to give him a chance during his suspension? If he's starting material, he's going to be due a large contract. If that's the case, then Ringo is your 3d round investment back on the bench. I wouldn't be happy if the Eagles traded a 3rd round pick for Ringo just to have him as CB3.

The Eagles don't take their starting CB off the field. Last year, Slay played 98% of the snaps. James Bradberry played 95% of the snaps. Kelee Ringo played 17%. Josh Jobe played 21% of the snaps. Eli Ricks played 28% of the snaps. 

In 2025, Mitchell is CB1, he's not coming off the field. CB2 is Ringo/Rodgers. Again, not coming off the field. If Ringo wins CB2, is Rodgers going to stay here to play 20% of the snaps? I don't see that happening. 

My biggest hold ups with keeping Rodgers are the fact that the Eagles invested a ton in CB in the draft and that Rodgers isn't signed past this year. Rodgers only comes back if he's CB2. Then Ringo is your 3rd round investment playing 17-20% of the snaps. 

 

You assume no one ever gets hurt. Bad assumption. By the same token you want a WR3, on the assumption that either Brown or Smith gets hurt.

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Sometimes I wonder if medical people have named the syndrome that sports fans suffer from where they think some JAG on the roster (who they're fine getting rid of) will reap premium assets from other teams.

"Hello, we have some garbage.  We're willing to give it to you for some of your gold."

Matt Pryor?  Frankly, trades at the cutdown frequently involve depth level players for late Day 3 picks or player for player at that level.  

Just now, just relax said:

You assume no one ever gets hurt. Bad assumption. By the same token you want a WR3, on the assumption that either Brown or Smith gets hurt.

Not assuming no one gets hurt, just think that if that was the case, Jobe or Ricks can start and hold it down for a little bit. 

27 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Also have to think about next year when Slay is gone. Mitchell, Ringo, Cooper then a drop off. None of these guys are proven yet either.

Ricks will be a good CB4 next year when Slay is gone. Assuming they don't extend Rodgers 

I would be disappointed if Ringo doesn't end up a starting outside CB.  For one, didn't we trade a 2024 3rd for him?  Two, the guy is a prototype.  Three, I think his rookie year actually showed pretty successful progression.  Four, with no respect to Slay, I think the Eagles had 0 outside CBs playing consistently at a high level last year (and Slay is very old even if you take exception to that comment).  Five, people have too instantly developed far too high an opinion of Rodgers.  2024 saw a huge investment in CB, but it's still a wide open door to actually play at CB.  He should be able to nail down a job.  

3 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Ricks will be a good CB4 next year when Slay is gone. Assuming they don't extend Rodgers 

Ricks upside is probably good CB4.  

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Hurts really has nothing left to accomplish at this point.  I expect a down year just because it will be difficult to maintain a competitive drive now that he's done it all.

Just now, eagle45 said:

Ricks upside is probably good CB4.  

Yup. Mitchell/Ringo on the outside. DeJean nickel. Ricks CB4 and add another guy through the draft. I wouldn't rule out Howie bringing Maddox back on a cheap deal

46 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Dallas loves them some 40 year old ex-Eagles 

Will be 36 in October.  They need DT help in a big way. Mazi will likely bust.  They also signed Phillips from Buffalo (or that could’ve been a late round trade…he’s big talker tough guy that will give them as many penalties as run stops).  I think Joseph can help them more than Phillips can.  Neither one are prime players…

 

35 minutes ago, just relax said:

Just no. We finally have depth and you can’t wait to trade it away.

Completely agree.  Too many people think we have become the secondary store.  We were almost dead last in pass defense last year.  Yes they have addressed the secondary in many ways, but we still don’t even know what we really have yet.  There is still a trade deadline prior to Thanksgiving…let the dust settle.  We may find out we don’t have as much as we think we do..  

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Wasn't it Brandon Whiting?

damnit 

Somehow mixed up Brandon Whiting and Darwin Walker