19 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

tl dr

X or Split End and Z or Flanker are real positions,  and WR3 is simply not.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Poe waived. No word yet on Tinky Winky.

Well, they can’t cut Dipsy.  He’s already been issued his kelly green jersey:

 

21 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

tl dr

X or Split End and Z or Flanker are real positions,  and WR3 is simply not.

What position lines up in the slot the majority of the time? 
 

Follow up question. What personnel do most offenses run the majority of the time? 

1 hour ago, Godfather said:

FB is such an important position on offense 

The Ravens and 9ers use FBs extensively,  and they were 2 of the 4 teams who went to the Conference Championships. 

Teams with FBs, last year at least, did better than teams without FBs.  The Ravens have been good with Lamar and Ricard all along.

Maybe DeJean can keep bulking up and play some FB because I'm not so sure he's cut out for DB at the NFL level after that preseason game.

39 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I think age matters to Howie. Early cuts are mostly over 25. By 25 or so, what you see is usually what you get, so these guys aren't seen as prospects, but what can you do for me this season. If they make the PS, it'll be as injury replacements, not as "futures."

So this gives Ricks (23) an edge on Jobe (26). VanSumeran (24) v Burks (29). Hall (23) v Lewis (26). McMahon (23) v Hennessey (27) and Toth (28). Smith (23) v Campbell (27).

Vakalahi (21) over Lane (34)

Contract is certainly a factor. Guys with multiple years of control would be favored over 1-yr guys 

31 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

tl dr

X or Split End and Z or Flanker are real positions,  and WR3 is simply not.

WRs line up all over the formation, regardless of their role.  CeeDee is clearly WR1, but is in the slot the majority of the time.

WR3 is the player that is on the field in 11 personnel - regardless of where he lines up.

Funny how the RAS website has WR as a position, not X or Z or Flanker....

 

40 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Well, they can’t cut Dipsy.  He’s already been issued his kelly green jersey:

 

Nike:

31 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Maybe DeJean can keep bulking up and play some FB because I'm not so sure he's cut out for DB at the NFL level after that preseason game.

I thought he was good.  I mean,  2 targets, 0 completions.  And did well while run blitzing.

The Eagles sucked at TE blocking in the last preseason game.   Bad TE blocking caused Nichols not to get the first on 4th and 1 and caused the McKee strip sack.  It's a problem.

Putting a bigger player on the field is a solution.   It's not like I haven't typed all this before, but might as well again.   The LBs the Eagles have are all great athletes and most have offense - like RB, mostly - on the resume.   Mailata, Carter and Davis have all volunteered to play offense in short yardage situations.   They could work.   Many in house solutions for superior blocking on offense.   

Another solution is to pick up a Blocking TE.   Goedert is a balanced TE, good at pass catching and blocking,  Calcaterra is a pass catching TE,  and the Eagles don't have a Blocking TE at all.   Putting in a too small pass catching TE who gets mauled and the Eagles suffer is not a solution.

25 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

WRs line up all over the formation, regardless of their role.  CeeDee is clearly WR1, but is in the slot the majority of the time.

WR3 is the player that is on the field in 11 personnel - regardless of where he lines up.

Funny how the RAS website has WR as a position, not X or Z or Flanker....

 

do they have wr1  wr2 wr 3?   No.  

I don't see why RAS makes the distinction between SS and FS,  but doesn't make the distinction between OLB and ILB.

 

59 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

What position lines up in the slot the majority of the time? 

depends on the team.   Often,  nobody.

And the answer wouldn't be WR3 in any case.

3 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

depends on the team.   Often,  nobody.

And the answer wouldn't be WR3 in any case.

You aren’t answering the question. When someone lines up in the slot, what position is it the majority of the time?

Also, do majority of teams use 11 personnel? 

17 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

 Mailata, Carter and Davis have all volunteered to play offense in short yardage situations.   

Mailata already plays offense in short yardage situations. 

30 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Mailata already plays offense in short yardage situations. 

36 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You aren’t answering the question. When someone lines up in the slot, what position is it the majority of the time?

Also, do majority of teams use 11 personnel? 

Ok, I don't know. 

I would have to look it up.

It doesn't matter,  because there is no such thing as WR3.

A WR could line up in the slot.  A RB could line up in the slot.  A TE could line up in the slot.

But there is no such thing as WR1,  WR2,  WR3.  

there are positions on the field,  End and Back.  

10 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Ok, I don't know. 

I would have to look it up.

It doesn't matter,  because there is no such thing as WR3.

A WR could line up in the slot.  A RB could line up in the slot.  A TE could line up in the slot.

But there is no such thing as WR1,  WR2,  WR3.  

there are positions on the field,  End and Back.  

Let me help you. 26 of 32 teams ran 11 personnel the majority of their offensive plays. That would be 3 WR’s, 1 TE and 1 RB. You are just arguing to argue. 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Let me help you. 26 of 32 teams ran 11 personnel the majority of their offensive plays. That would be 3 WR’s, 1 TE and 1 RB. You are just arguing to argue. 

The Receiver lined up in the slot in 3 WR sets is traditionally the Y receiver, though I dont think ive ever heard what the other receiver in the slot in a 4 wr set is called, is he Y2? W?

And what about empty sets with 5 receivers???

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Mailata already plays offense in short yardage situations. 

I was wondering if someone was going to catch that.  I figured no.  I was wrong.

Mailata, Davis and Carter all want to be in the backfield in tush push situations, and maybe they all just want to be the running back.  This was something the running backs coach said.  I don't know more details than that, and how it's going.

However, if they're all volunteering to do that, it's not unreasonable to think that they might want to do other things at different times.  Like general blocking.

I think it's time for my annual "Invincible" viewing, along with my annual LII viewing. 

6 hours ago, brkmsn said:

I'm not sure you're understanding my counterpoint. Nolan Smith will not begin the season as a "starter." He will have an increased role compared to last year and the plan is that with experience he will eventually develop into a starter. So when people put down anything he did on the field in a preseason game because it was "against backups," well ... so was he. 

I would love for you to provide examples of him not getting "any consistent pressure."

As I said a couple times now, I'm not ready to offer a final grade on him and I realize he is a work in progress.  What I'm saying is that he is close to moving into the "real risk" category, i.e. we aren't there yet.  I'm basing that off of the combination of these things:

1) he's a 1st round pick, we "paid" high in draft capital and he needs to be a really good player to be worth it

2) he did next to nothing his entire 1st year and I'd expect a 1st round edge rusher to flash and beat defenders a lot more than he did ; you could point to his lack of snaps which is true but it also means the coaches didn't feel he should get those snaps

3) from what I've seen (I was careful in previous posts to explain that I haven't seen all his plays) he has not produced much this preseason when I would have thought we'd see clear improvement, high level of pressure, more splash plays, etc. as should be really hungry and he is going against the backups

4) there has been very little written or talked about him from all the people covering the team regarding how much he has improved, is ready now, etc., i.e. the smoke signals aren't all that positive.

 

#4 from above is the least important but you'd still expect a good bit more excitement about a 1st rounder if he is ready to make the leap.  So in summary, I want to see what happens over the first six or seven games and if doesn't show anything then I'd put him in the "real risk" category.  Note, that wouldn't mean he ends up a bust but rather that he would be in danger of doing that.  Finally, we saw what happened with BG so for sure it might take another year or two but BG was the exception.

 

46 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I think it's time for my annual "Invincible" viewing, along with my annual LII viewing. 

Do people really think Invincible was a good movie? I sure didn’t think so.

4 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Do people really think Invincible was a good movie? I sure didn’t think so.

No, just amusing as an Eagles fan.

43 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Do people really think Invincible was a good movie? I sure didn’t think so.

It's better than "The Garbage Picking Field Goal Kicking Philadelphia Phenomenon" lol but I didn't think it was bad a bad movie.

Plus, I like the soundtrack. Good or bad though, I watch it every year before the season begins. It helped give me a Kelly Green fix. I suppose the new alternates could help in that regard though. 

2 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Do people really think Invincible was a good movie? I sure didn’t think so.

I was given that movie as a Xmas gift many many many years ago. I still have not seen it yet.