6 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

I'd prefer Greg Ward or even J-JAW over an unknown.

Well, thats kinda silly.

Greg Ward had hands, but he didnt have the blocking ability of Rosemy-Jacksaint.

R-J didnt have a drop in the past 2 college seasons for Georgia, and was arguably the top blocker at the WR position in the class. He has redeeming qualities. He also has 33'' arms and 10'' hands on a 6'1'' frame. At 22 years old there is upside there that Ward, and especially JJAW absolutely do not have.

I think he was likely a higher projection who fell due to that pro day. But the guy can play.

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Taylor Heineke was traded for a conditional 6th to the Chargers. 

After catching up on this thread I just dropped Lamb for MRJ

3 hours ago, Texas Eagle said:

Not a huge fan of retiring numbers

Retiring numbers is fine, you just can't be too free/loose with it. 

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

To be fair, he did say he wanted #9 but it was retired

That would be even worse than 19.  DL shouldn't have single digit numbers.  

Apparently the Eagles wanted Toth back but he's pursuing opportunities elsewhere as of now, but still may come back to the Eagles.

Good, I hope he goes elsewhere.

A) He's not any good. If the Eagles can't quit their Toth obsession he needs to make them quit it by signing elsewhere.

B) Serves em right for not having a more viable backup center option that they need to rely on Toth in the first place.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Apparently the Eagles wanted Toth back but he's pursuing opportunities elsewhere as of now, but still may come back to the Eagles.

Good, I hope he goes elsewhere.

A) He's not any good. If the Eagles can't quit their Toth obsession he needs to make them quit it by signing elsewhere.

B) Serves em right for not having a more viable backup center option that they need to rely on Toth in the first place.

Im concerned that Gates was such a late add (probably because he really stinks), and when the eagles signed him, twitter said- he stinks. He was one of those guys who you really expect is just a body to help get through camp. And now, Hennessy is gone, McMahon was released and signed to the PS... and it seems like Gates is somehow, quickly penciled in as the backup C.

How did this happen? Did he suddenly become good as soon as he shared space with Stoutland?

Maybe Toth sucks too. But why should I not be concerned about Gates? Wouldnt Toth, who has been in this system for years now be better?

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Well, thats kinda silly.

Greg Ward had hands, but he didnt have the blocking ability of Rosemy-Jacksaint.

R-J didnt have a drop in the past 2 college seasons for Georgia, and was arguably the top blocker at the WR position in the class. He has redeeming qualities. He also has 33'' arms and 10'' hands on a 6'1'' frame. At 22 years old there is upside there that Ward, and especially JJAW absolutely do not have.

I think he was likely a higher projection who fell due to that pro day. But the guy can play.

What upside does he have over JJAW? JJAW was a good blocker if that's what you want. He just didn't have great hands. I don't think a WR has to be fast if he's great at running routes and getting open, but MRJ isn't known for that and his 4.81 speed is getting into Rich Eisen territory. JJAW had much better tools coming out of college, he just didn't have the mental makeup for greatness in the NFL. He was taller, bigger, and faster, but otherwise similar to MRJ. 

Honestly, I really don't care who's on the bottom of the PS. But I'm not expecting much in this case.

33 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

What upside does he have over JJAW? JJAW was a good blocker if that's what you want. He just didn't have great hands. I don't think a WR has to be fast if he's great at running routes and getting open, but MRJ isn't known for that and his 4.81 speed is getting into Rich Eisen territory. JJAW had much better tools coming out of college, he just didn't have the mental makeup for greatness in the NFL. He was taller, bigger, and faster, but otherwise similar to MRJ. 

Honestly, I really don't care who's on the bottom of the PS. But I'm not expecting much in this case.

You dont have to sell me on JJAW as a prospect. I was ok with the pick even though I wanted a speed WR that year, and he wasnt that. On the same token, theres not really a comparison between the players. It was kinda weird his name was brought up, and even weirder to continue discussing it- as irrelevant as JJAW is to Rosemy-Jacksaint's career trajectory.

Pretty early on it was clear JJAW was a bust. Rosemy-Jacksaint is a young, rookie vying for a 4th or 5th WR role rather than the starter expectations for a 2nd round pick. 

Avant ran a 4.8. He was pretty slow for WR standards, but he likely didnt really run a 4.8. Im quite sure Rosemy-Jacksaint doesnt really run a 4.8. With the current state of the Georgia football program, Im not sure its possible to run a 4.8 and be recruited to that team as a WR. 

 

Avant was a very, very poor man’s Boldin.  He had magnets for hands and had decent short area quickness…but was very slow with any route in which he or the DB could get to full stride.  He also was zero YAC threat aside from dragging a DB a little ways due to his strength.  And a total non-presence in the red zone (although I wonder if some of that is on Mcnabb).  

 

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

You dont have to sell me on JJAW as a prospect. I was ok with the pick even though I wanted a speed WR that year, and he wasnt that. On the same token, theres not really a comparison between the players. It was kinda weird his name was brought up, and even weirder to continue discussing it- as irrelevant as JJAW is to Rosemy-Jacksaint's career trajectory.

Pretty early on it was clear JJAW was a bust. Rosemy-Jacksaint is a young, rookie vying for a 4th or 5th WR role rather than the starter expectations for a 2nd round pick. 

Avant ran a 4.8. He was pretty slow for WR standards, but he likely didnt really run a 4.8. Im quite sure Rosemy-Jacksaint doesnt really run a 4.8. With the current state of the Georgia football program, Im not sure its possible to run a 4.8 and be recruited to that team as a WR. 

 

But Avant could run routes and get open. Like I said, being slow isn't the end of the world, but a slow WR that doesn't run routes well, is useless.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

You dont have to sell me on JJAW as a prospect. I was ok with the pick even though I wanted a speed WR that year, and he wasnt that. On the same token, theres not really a comparison between the players. It was kinda weird his name was brought up, and even weirder to continue discussing it- as irrelevant as JJAW is to Rosemy-Jacksaint's career trajectory.

He had an injury, like Anias Williams Im sure the eagles are hoping that after some more time, he regains some more of that athleticism. 

Avant ran a 4.8. He was pretty slow for WR standards, but he likely didnt really run a 4.8. Im quite sure Rosemy-Jacksaint doesnt really run a 4.8. With the current state of the Georgia football program, Im not sure its possible to run a 4.8 and be recruited to that team as a WR. 

 

Jason avant ran a 4.6.

Not a burner but not 4.8 slow.

And yeah one has to assume that jacksaint had something going on that day he ran, I cant see Georgia recruiting a 4.8 WR.

 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Avant was a very, very poor man’s Boldin.  He had magnets for hands and had decent short area quickness…but was very slow with any route in which he or the DB could get to full stride.  He also was zero YAC threat aside from dragging a DB a little ways due to his strength.  And a total non-presence in the red zone (although I wonder if some of that is on Mcnabb).  

 

R-J is quite honestly one of,  if not my bottom ranked draft able WR from this class. 

I liked Vele more as a true WR, and Whittington quite a bit more than either of them.  Those were probably my last 3 WRs this year. 

But I liked R-J for the Zach Pascal role. He will be very sure handed in his few touches per year, and will do all the dirty work each week at an elite level. 

 

Oklahoma LB Stutsman donated 50k of his NIL earnings to the programs walk-ons this year. 

9 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I guess the players that think Hurts is overrated haven't read the blog.  Herbert had a down year but he had no real talent around him.  I don't see how you could think Josh Allen is overrated unless you object to him being considered almost as good as Mahomes.   

Allen is far and away the second best QB in the league behind Mahomes so to have him as the most overrated is ridiculous. Mahomes and the Chiefs have been his boogeyman but that doesn’t diminish his talent. If his defense doesn’t implode in that playoff game where they gave up that 13 second drive, it’s a different story. He was incredible that game. 
 

I don’t think Hurts is overrated, but I put him in the category with Tua and Purdy surrounded by elite talent. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im concerned that Gates was such a late add (probably because he really stinks), and when the eagles signed him, twitter said- he stinks. He was one of those guys who you really expect is just a body to help get through camp. And now, Hennessy is gone, McMahon was released and signed to the PS... and it seems like Gates is somehow, quickly penciled in as the backup C.

How did this happen? Did he suddenly become good as soon as he shared space with Stoutland?

Maybe Toth sucks too. But why should I not be concerned about Gates? Wouldnt Toth, who has been in this system for years now be better?

Keegan took snaps at C at the Senior Bowl. Would love to see him cross trained asap

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Allen is far and away the second best QB in the league behind Mahomes so to have him as the most overrated is ridiculous. Mahomes and the Chiefs have been his boogeyman but that doesn’t diminish his talent. If his defense doesn’t implode in that playoff game where they gave up that 13 second drive, it’s a different story. He was incredible that game. 
 

I don’t think Hurts is overrated, but I put him in the category with Tua and Purdy surrounded by elite talent. 

Agree with all of this.  If Burrow could stay healthy he’d be there with them.

Bills problem is defense.  McDermott should have been fired by now for as often as his defense comes up small 

As far as that overrated list goes, Lamar and Dak are the two guys who get paid a ton of money and have never done squat in the playoffs 

14 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

If you have the time watch Better Call Saul, otherwise

  Reveal hidden contents

After Chuck's death in the Season 3 finale, Jimmy leans into his criminal nature by selling burner phones and performing various scams. Then, when his law license is reinstated, he requests to practice law officially under the "Saul Goodman” name.

Hence the certificate in his name.

He picked the name "X" to be the western version of the WeChat App from China - the app of everything. Musk:

And, you know, if I think of, like, WeChat in China, which is actually a great, great app, but there’s no WeChat movement outside of China. And I think that there’s a real opportunity to create that. You basically live on WeChat in China because it’s so useful and so helpful to your daily life. And I think if we could achieve that, or even close to that with Twitter, it would be an immense success.

Didn't he pick the name X because the last time he tried to name a company X.com (a one stop shop digital finance company), the board after warning him consistently that X made people think porn and not 'X marks the Spot / treasure', ousted him and renamed the company PayPal?

11 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I always thought there was a certain elegance to football being the only sport (that I can think of?) that has position specific numbers.  I always thought there was a certain element of pride for amongst each position group for their unique decade of numbers.  But if the current players prefer it this way, then I guess that's not true anymore.  

As someone who was never a QB, I would imagine it would be somewhat preferable (for the QB) if the defense has rational numbers.  

What's to stop a DC from getting all their DB's numbers in the 50's and all their LB's numbers in the 20's?  Or worse yet, a perfect mix.  I'd have to think that is going to mess with a QB as they are trying to identify matchups on the field at least a little bit.

 I loved that the NFL was different than college football. In college, you knew a guy was a STUD if he was wearing a single digit. Your LB has a number in the 30s or 40s, he's going to be a thumper. If a WR is wearing 1, he's either damn fast or a big possession WR. If you were a WR wearing an 80s number, you had great hands and were reliable. If you were a Freshman and you got a "good" number, you're playing early. You also know that Freshman had their eyes on graduating players numbers so they could switch out of their assigned number in to a number they choose. I remember being so mad at the number I was given but as an incoming Freshman, nothing I could do about it.

Once you get to the NFL, you get your professional number. You made it to the big leagues. WR getting a number in the 80s used to mean you made it. It was like a right of passage to go from your TC number to an 80s number once cuts were made. Remember when Pinkston was 17?

 

 

How many were aware that Brian Dawkins was 24 until the Eagles got rid of Vaughn Hebron?

 

One last thing that sounds silly but was something that I always too notice of is that in college teams would wear ankle or knee high white/team colored/black socks but once you made it to the NFL, you got to wear striped team socks. With this new trend of every team just wearing white tights instead of any form of team socks, there's no differentiation from college to the NFL. 

14 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What tune are they singing?  Seems Row Row Row Your Boat would work.  

It said it right in the post. Welcome back, Kotter

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Didn't he pick the name X because the last time he tried to name a company X.com (a one stop shop digital finance company), the board after warning him consistently that X made people think porn and not 'X marks the Spot / treasure', ousted him and renamed the company PayPal?

He's had a desire for that WeChat thing for a long time, and Twitter isn't an all encompassing name, so rebranding that to something else was desired and the easiest way to start the process - they want an X TV App to take livestreams etc into a more friendly user experience.  I suppose X is more uniquely memorable than Mastodon or Meta

 

11 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I always thought there was a certain elegance to football being the only sport (that I can think of?) that has position specific numbers.  I always thought there was a certain element of pride for amongst each position group for their unique decade of numbers.  But if the current players prefer it this way, then I guess that's not true anymore.  

As someone who was never a QB, I would imagine it would be somewhat preferable (for the QB) if the defense has rational numbers.  

What's to stop a DC from getting all their DB's numbers in the 50's and all their LB's numbers in the 20's?  Or worse yet, a perfect mix.  I'd have to think that is going to mess with a QB as they are trying to identify matchups on the field at least a little bit.

European Soccer used to have recognised traditional positional numbers 1-11 1. Keeper, 2. Right Back, 3. Left Back, 4 & 5 Centre Halves, 6 & 8 Central Midfield, 7 Right Wing, 9 & 10 Centre Forwards and 11 Left Wing.

But once the marketing guys in the 90's realised that American sports sold individual named and numbered shirts the whole thing went to S*%t and now you have guys wearing numbers in the 20's, 30's and 40's, players launching brands based on their shirt number, it's the way of sports. Forget tradition and feel the monetization.

28 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Thank god Howie finally got his head out of his ass and is trying to do something about our shortage of DB's /s

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

 

How many were aware that Brian Dawkins was 24 until the Eagles got rid of Vaughn Hebron?

 

 

You know what.   Because of this post it just occurred to my that the Mitchell and Ness Dawkins jersey (purchased in 2019) that is supposed to be from 1996 is number 20 not 24.