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OTAs start tomorrow for next two weeks, Mon, Wed, Thurs.  Then minicamps.  Howie needs to get DeJean and Mitchell signed    We won’t get much out of the OTAs or Minicamp. Clips of drills. The players have had coaches in limited capacity in stage 2 and are over a month into time with the strength and conditioning staff. Real value for players and team is instruction in the classroom and getting a feel for the new faces.  Lots of new faces, by my count 40 of the 90 either brand new or barely on PS for long last season.  Let the competition to make the team begin.  

Qustions for Monday.  Is Nolan Smith’s shoulder ready? Dean’s foot?  A Smith’s shin?  (Still wonder how much that ankle impacted causing the stress fracture, if any.). S Brown’s recovery?  Trot JR’s hammy?  Paris,Campbell’s overall health?  Will they participate?  Fully?  

What churn occurs after OTAs, minicamp, if any? 

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10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Is Nolan Richardson’s shoulder ready?

I might be able to give you an answer, but first you'll have to remind me who Nolan Richardson is.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You might want to check the details of the story a bit closer. He was in no danger of missing his tee time. 

Eh?  That’s not fully accurate.  His tee time was originally 8:28 am.  Incident happened about an hour earlier.  So his timing was about right for getting in some warmup practice and stretching, pretty much what would occur with any pro athlete.  There were police directing traffic around the facility the day before.  Apparently the traffic was bad the two preceding days.   Not excusing either side here.  Officer was placed on administrative leave, whether for the investigation or injury is unclear.   Does look like a tad overcharging (all too common these days) and poor reaction by the officer and poor communication was a factor.  (The taunt shout toward Darlington was dumb on the officer’s part, for example.  Let’s face it, the Louisville police haven’t looked very good the last few times they have attracted national attention.  Not having his camera on, an ongoing issue for Louisville PD, isn’t a good look.)

I have to say, Schaffer’s mentioning the underlying tragedy was appropriately done.   His handling and his lawyer’s handling in the aftermath have been solid.

11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Eh?  That’s not fully accurate.  His tee time was originally 8:28 am.  Incident happened about an hour earlier.  So his timing was about right for getting in some warmup practice and stretching, pretty much what would occur with any pro athlete.  There were police directing traffic around the facility the day before.  Apparently the traffic was bad the two preceding days.   Not excusing either side here.  Officer was placed on administrative leave, whether for the investigation or injury is unclear.   Does look like a tad overcharging (all too common these days) and poor reaction by the officer and poor communication was a factor.  (The taunt shout toward Darlington was dumb on the officer’s part, for example.  Let’s face it, the Louisville police haven’t looked very good the last few times they have attracted national attention.  Not having his camera on, an ongoing issue for Louisville PD, isn’t a good look.)

I have to say, Schaffer’s mentioning the underlying tragedy was appropriately done.   His handling and his lawyer’s handling in the aftermath have been solid.

No it's perfectly accurate, as proven by the fact he still made tee time. Unless you're trying to imply they'd only move back his tee time for an arrest of his own fault but not for being stuck in traffic which was out of his control. It would be a bad argument, but one you're free to attempt to make.

And the officer could've been overzealous just as Scheffler was a selfish idiot for thinking he was entitled to stretching and warmup time to bypass traffic by breaking the law. They're not mutually exclusive. Clearly he proved he could still play well when short on time.

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I might be able to give you an answer, but first you'll have to remind me who Nolan Richardson is.

Oops.  Smith.  But you don’t know who Nolan Richardson is?  Hall of Fame basketball coach?  That’s what age does.  I think Nolan and Nolan Ryan comes to mind.  Was a neighbor of a good friend of mine in Alvin, TX.   Good beef as his second career. So I have to shuffle my brain away from Ryan and with R on the brain, Richardson comes up next.

i am glad I haven’t typed Paris Hilton for Campbell yet.  Not that the Paris Hilton doesn’t pop up first when I started grasping for Campbell’s last name. (Yeah, I am sure I have mistyped Paris for Parris already.)   As a precursor, if I type Paris, Paris Hilton or Parris Soup, it’s Campbell I am aiming for.

 

Just now, BigEFly said:

Oops.  Smith.  But you don’t know who Nolan Richardson is?  Hall of Fame basketball coach?  That’s what age does.  I think Nolan and Nolan Ryan comes to mind.  Was a neighbor of a good friend of mine in Alvin, TX.   Good beef as his second career. So I have to shuffle my brain away from Ryan and with R on the brain, Richardson comes up next.

i am glad I haven’t typed Paris Hilton for Campbell yet.  Not that the Paris Hilton doesn’t pop up first when I started grasping for Campbell’s last name. (Yeah, I am sure I have mistyped Paris for Parris already.)   As a precursor, if I type Paris, Paris Hilton or Parris Soup, it’s Campbell I am aiming for.

 

In that case, I'd say no, the shoulder of any octogenarian is probably not ready for the rigors of an NFL season. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The officer could've been overzealous just as Scheffler was a selfish idiot for thinking he was entitled to stretching and warmup time to bypass traffic by breaking the law. They're not mutually exclusive. Clearly he proved he could still play well when short on time.

Well, he said other golfers were bypassing it in their marked cars. He also said one person told him to do one thing and the guy who jumped onto his car didn't realize that. Perhaps more information has come out. I think most pro athletes would bypass traffic getting to their event if it's right outside the venue.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Well, he said other golfers were bypassing it in their marked cars. He also said one person told him to do one thing and the guy who jumped onto his car didn't realize that. Perhaps more information has come out. I think most pro athletes would bypass traffic getting to their event if it's right outside the venue.

 

44 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You might want to check the details of the story a bit closer. He was in no danger of missing his tee time. 

 

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

No it's perfectly accurate, as proven by the fact he still made tee time. Unless you're trying to imply they'd only move back his tee time for an arrest of his own fault but not for being stuck in traffic which was out of his control. It would be a bad argument, but one you're free to attempt to make.

And the officer could've been overzealous just as Scheffler was a selfish idiot for thinking he was entitled to stretching and warmup time to bypass traffic by breaking the law. They're not mutually exclusive. Clearly he proved he could still play well when short on time.

They moved everyone’s tee time but whether Scheffler knew that at the time is questionable.  Suggestion another golfer had just made that move.  Suggestion is the arresting officer was not involved in traffic control.  Can’t say I have never been in a confusing traffic flow arrangement at an accident scene.   You conclude guilt and entitlement.  I don’t.  Burden is on the state in front of the trier of fact, if it ever gets there. (Overcharging to negotiate a resolution is something that happens to much in my opinion.  Don’t risk jail time or a felony, take the plea.)

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Well, he said other golfers were bypassing it in their marked cars. He also said one person told him to do one thing and the guy who jumped onto his car didn't realize that. Perhaps more information has come out. I think most pro athletes would bypass traffic getting to their event if it's right outside the venue.

Other golfers bypassed traffic by hopping the median? If that's true and if he was actually instructed to do that it then he's got a valid complaint. 

As for what other pro athletes would do, it's irrelevant. They're not above the law either. Someone died and cops have a job to do just as much as the athletes do.

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

They moved everyone’s tee time but whether Scheffler knew that at the time is questionable.  Suggestion another golfer had just made that move.  Suggestion is the arresting officer was not involved in traffic control.  Can’t say I have never been in a confusing traffic flow arrangement at an accident scene.   You conclude guilt and entitlement.  I don’t.  Burden is on the state in front of the trier of fact, if it ever gets there. (Overcharging to negotiate a resolution is something that happens to much in my opinion.  Don’t risk jail time or a felony, take the plea.)

If the cops are lying then they deserve to be held accountable, just as in any other situation. But his tee time is entirely irrelevant to the question of his guilt or innocence. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Other golfers bypassed traffic by hopping the median? If that's true and if he was actually instructed to do that it then he's got a valid complaint. 

As for what other pro athletes would do, it's irrelevant. They're not above the law either. Someone died and cops have a job to do just as much as the athletes do.

Oh for sure. I think if he knew it was a fatality vs a simple accident that might be different. A routine is big for athletes especially a mental sport like golf.

Yeah, one article on Friday mentioned he saw other cars bypassing. It was comprised of quotes that could have been from his press conference and afterwards on social media and from his attorney. I'm guessing in the dark and rain he saw they were marked PGA cars vs specific golfers. 

I believe his attorney mentioned in a video one officer told him to do one thing and he was but the guy who jumped on came from another area and may have not realized what the other told him. If that isn't true then he did act out of line.

It sounds like a bad situation all around. I don't get why the cop felt the need to jump on the car unless he was about to hit someone,  which it doesn't sound like he was. Get the plate and radio ahead and give him a ticket or whatever. He wasn't heading towards a highway they could have easily found him. I'm usually on the side of LEOs but running and jumping on a car is an escalation that didn't need to happen. 

 

21 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Oh for sure. I think if he knew it was a fatality vs a simple accident that might be different. A routine is big for athletes especially a mental sport like golf.

Yeah, one article on Friday mentioned he saw other cars bypassing. It was comprised of quotes that could have been from his press conference and afterwards on social media and from his attorney. I'm guessing in the dark and rain he saw they were marked PGA cars vs specific golfers. 

I believe his attorney mentioned in a video one officer told him to do one thing and he was but the guy who jumped on came from another area and may have not realized what the other told him. If that isn't true then he did act out of line.

It sounds like a bad situation all around. I don't get why the cop felt the need to jump on the car unless he was about to hit someone,  which it doesn't sound like he was. Get the plate and radio ahead and give him a ticket or whatever. He wasn't heading towards a highway they could have easily found him. I'm usually on the side of LEOs but running and jumping on a car is an escalation that didn't need to happen. 

 

I'm surprised there's no video of the incident either from other drivers or body cams from the cops themselves. Sure would help to clarify who's telling the truth here.

56 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I might be able to give you an answer, but first you'll have to remind me who Nolan Richardson is.

 The former head coach of Arkansas basketball?

28 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm surprised there's no video of the incident either from other drivers or body cams from the cops themselves. Sure would help to clarify who's telling the truth here.

One thing I don't get is if one office told him to do something then why wouldn't he have told the detective who jumped on the car?

Chances are the cop was on edge because of the fatality, which I get because can't imagine what it's like to deal with that. SS was on edge about getting there to do his routine and thought it was a simple accident just outside the club. Both probably did stuff that wasn't ideal.

120+ golfers started the tournament so I get not giving them all drivers, but the top 20 in the world should have one. It's crazy the PGA doesn't supply them. 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

OTAs start tomorrow for next two weeks, Mon, Wed, Thurs.  Then minicamps.  Howie needs to get DeJean and Mitchell signed    We won’t get much out of the OTAs or Minicamp. Clips of drills. The players have had coaches in limited capacity in stage 2 and are over a month into time with the strength and conditioning staff. Real value for players and team is instruction in the classroom and getting a feel for the new faces.  Lots of new faces, by my count 40 of the 90 either brand new or barely on PS for long last season.  Let the competition to make the team begin.  

Qustions for Monday.  Is Nolan Smith’s shoulder ready? Dean’s foot?  A Smith’s shin?  (Still wonder how much that ankle impacted causing the stress fracture, if any.). S Brown’s recovery?  Trot JR’s hammy?  Paris,Campbell’s overall health?  Will they participate?  Fully?  

What churn occurs after OTAs, minicamp, if any? 

We should get a sense of the depth chart at wr and db from the 7v7 portions. I wonder if Bradberry will be practicing. If they plan on cutting him, it makes no sense for him to be there.

27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

One thing I don't get is if one office told him to do something then why wouldn't he have told the detective who jumped on the car?

Chances are the cop was on edge because of the fatality, which I get because can't imagine what it's like to deal with that. SS was on edge about getting there to do his routine and thought it was a simple accident just outside the club. Both probably did stuff that wasn't ideal.

120+ golfers started the tournament so I get not giving them all drivers, but the top 20 in the world should have one. It's crazy the PGA doesn't supply them. 

Agreed on all points

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

We should get a sense of the depth chart at wr and db from the 7v7 portions. I wonder if Bradberry will be practicing. If they plan on cutting him, it makes no sense for him to be there.

There's no reason to plan on cutting Bradberry. In 2022 he was one of the top CBs in the NFL. Last year he was not very good. It's more likely he would rebound from a bad season and play at a top level than to expect a rookie to play at a top level. The hope would be that Mitchell gets here and plays well enough to really push for a starting role and that Bradberry responds from being pushed and returns to his all-pro form. When we drafted Dean, he had that effect on TJ Edwards who responded with a terrific season in 2022. 

That would be the ideal scenario, but we don't really gain anything by just cutting Bradberry right now. If he loses his job, which he should if he continues to play like he did last year, and other young DBs like Ringo, Ricks and Rodgers outplay him as well, then it makes more sense to part ways. For now, see if he shows signs of rebounding. If he does and you still like where the younger guys are at, Bradberry may prove tradeable --- especially if the Eagles are on the hook for much of his contract. There will always be teams looking for experienced, solid vet CBs during the season.

On 5/17/2024 at 10:18 PM, OCEaglefan said:

The NFL has a legit following in Germany. Most general sports fan have an NFL team they follow like many Americans have a premier league team 

we’re sending them giants panthers to reward them 

I'm told the Panthers have a large fan base in Germany, and the tickets are the proverbial rocking horse 💩to get hold of.

Its crazy to ask this question... but how much better would the Phillies be if they had been platooning Cody Clemons and Nick Castellanos all year?  

 

When Turner is healthy, they need to find a way to keep Clemons with the big club.  

That’s me in case you guys were wondering. 

 

 

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

They moved everyone’s tee time but whether Scheffler knew that at the time is questionable.  Suggestion another golfer had just made that move.  Suggestion is the arresting officer was not involved in traffic control.  Can’t say I have never been in a confusing traffic flow arrangement at an accident scene.   You conclude guilt and entitlement.  I don’t.  Burden is on the state in front of the trier of fact, if it ever gets there. (Overcharging to negotiate a resolution is something that happens to much in my opinion.  Don’t risk jail time or a felony, take the plea.)

I am not concluding anything except that he behaved like a pig.

1 hour ago, schuy7 said:

That’s me in case you guys were wondering. 

 

 

? what is you?

Sixers blew the easiest chance they ever had at a shot of being in the conference finals. 

 

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Sixers blew the easiest chance they ever had at a shot of being in the conference finals. 

 

They probably had an easier chance being a different seed. The two teams that gave them the most trouble this season were NYK and Indiana. They would have had to face both of them. 

In the end, they just werent ready for any of it. They nearly lost to Miami and Id guess theyd have lost if that was a series (and Butler stayed healthy). They probably would have lost that game if Butler stayed healthy.

They werent really going to beat anyone in this year's playoffs. 

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