July 18, 20241 yr Just now, Bill said: MOTION IS A SECONDARY EFFECT OF THE SHUTTER SPEED It's not really a "secondary" effect, it's more accurate to say it's the main tradeoff when setting shutter speed. Same with image noise with a higher ISO. By your logic, you'd be trying to claim a shallow depth of field is a "seconadry effect" of shooting wide open. Depending on the type of shot, that is often the primary intent.
July 18, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Bill said: I need some clarification. WTF point are you trying to argue with this post, because as someone in the world of photography, your post reads like spaghetti. Nothing I said in that post is inaccurate. You don't get blurring of your subject unless there's motion (technically you can get blurring if the subject is outside the focal plane, but that's obviously not what we're talking about given that the context here is a professional photographer.) My point is that even at f/1.6, a shutter speed of 1/8000 still seems like overkill, but maybe not uncommon for a sensor that's really sensitive and if he wanted to protect against a scenario where capturing motion is in fact needed (e.g. Trump falls down, someone tries to rush the stage, etc.)
July 18, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I'm guessing she was fired from whatever job she had?
July 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: I'm guessing she was fired from whatever job she had? Not before she got a bunch of likes
July 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: I'm guessing she was fired from whatever job she had? The right's on a cancel culture crusade at the moment, so you can pretty much bet on it.
July 18, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I'm guessing she was fired from whatever job she had? I am not sure it identifies as a she You think they had a job?
July 18, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: It's not really a "secondary" effect, it's more accurate to say it's the main tradeoff when setting shutter speed. Same with image noise with a higher ISO. By your logic, you'd be trying to claim a shallow depth of field is a "seconadry effect" of shooting wide open. Depending on the type of shot, that is often the primary intent. You’re speaking about it from an artistic perspective and the intent of the photographer; I’m speaking about it from a scientific one because the refuting of his points requires speaking about it from a scientific perspective. Everything in the triangle has a primary function of how much light is passed through or gathered. There are other secondary effects, yes, but the primary function of anything on the triangle is light. If I am shooting a portrait and I want a blurred background, I grab a telephoto lens to make my subject look skinny and open my aperture up. Now, the tight DOF is what my primary artistic objective was in picking the f stop. Because I have more light coming through because of the wide open aperture, what do I need to do to either the sensitivity or the shutter speed?
July 18, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The right's on a cancel culture crusade at the moment, so you can pretty much bet on it. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/07/18/trump-shooting-jobs-fired-social-media-posts/74440728007/ Bunch of people have been losing their jobs for comments on it
July 18, 20241 yr Just now, Diehardfan said: I am not sure it identifies as a she You think they had a job? Can I say "it" lost its job if it had a job?
July 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/07/18/trump-shooting-jobs-fired-social-media-posts/74440728007/ Bunch of people have been losing their jobs for comments on it Yep. It's a shame what's happening to free speech in America.
July 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Yep. It's a shame what's happening to free speech in America.
July 18, 20241 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: I weep for what cancel culture's doing to my Pappy and my Grandpappy's America.
July 18, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Bill said: You’re speaking about it from an artistic perspective and the intent of the photographer; I’m speaking about it from a scientific one because the refuting of his points requires speaking about it from a scientific perspective. Everything in the triangle has a primary function of how much light is passed through or gathered. There are other secondary effects, yes, but the primary function of anything on the triangle is light. If I am shooting a portrait and I want a blurred background, I grab a telephoto lens to make my subject look skinny and open my aperture up. Now, the tight DOF is what my primary artistic objective was in picking the f stop. Because I have more light coming through because of the wide open aperture, what do I need to do to either the sensitivity or the shutter speed? Uhh yeah exactly dude, the "intent of the photographer" is what the entire conspiracy theory is based on. The theory is that he purposefully set his shutter speed as high as it could go because he knew everything was staged and he needed to be able to pull off a motion capture shot of the bullet trace. To be clear, as I've said countless times now, I don't think it was staged and I am not reading further into it because of the shutter speed aspect. Not sure where your other post went, but I'm agreeing with your larger point on this man.
July 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: Both sides have morons who find this stuff funny, or worse, artistic. Because a crappy comedian doing this is this is totally the same as an ex POTUS doing it.
July 18, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Maga rallying the cult Mr. Brodeur won the internet today.
July 18, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: CEO of Messari, a crypto company. Cancelled? Not a chance. someone ask matt mcginely about this guy.
July 18, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Uhh yeah exactly dude, the "intent of the photographer" is what the entire conspiracy theory is based on. The theory is that he purposefully set his shutter speed as high as it could go because he knew everything was staged and he needed to be able to pull off a motion capture shot of the bullet trace. To be clear, as I've said countless times now, I don't think it was staged and I am not reading further into it because of the shutter speed aspect. Not sure where your other post went, but I'm agreeing with your larger point on this man. Once again you don’t answer the question. Your shtick is getting old.
July 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, rambo said: @paco you're not smelling your farts enough, if your solar powered house doesn't have power. Guess the e-mach ain't getting the juice either. Don't F'n get me started. The FIRST week i've been gone for work during the pandemic we had our first extended power outage. We paid good money for the iQ8 micro inverters which allow for a local grid (I.E., you can use your panels during an outage during the day). Problem is.... f'n things didn't kick in. So by about 5 PM yesterday our battery was completely drained when we SHOULD have been recharging it during the day and blasting the AC. If I was home I could have worked with the solar company to triage the problem.
July 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: I don't get the shutter speed conspiracy. What does it have to do with anything? "Proof" that he was waiting for a photo op? Is that it? We are just at the surface as to how deep this conspiracy goes!!!!
July 18, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Bill said: Once again you don’t answer the question. Your shtick is getting old. I assumed your question was rhetorical, but yes you obviously bump up the shutter speed to compensate for a lower f-stop. If you're shooting facing the sun, you might even need to add an ND filter. But he wasn't shooting into the sun, and he was next to the stage shooting at a fairly wide angle. If you honestly don't think 1/8000 is overkill that's fine. On the surface it doesn't make sense to me, but maybe it does come down to how powerful the sensor is.
July 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: We are just at the surface as to how deep this conspiracy goes!!!! If we're doing conspiracy theories at least make em sexy. I was in board with the "shadowy figure by the water tower".
July 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: i'll see your D list comedian and raise you a governor. Gov. Mark Robinson, who is the Republican nominee for governor, said in a recent campaign speech at a local church that "some folks need killing” after referencing how the U.S. has dealt previously with evil. Robinson, who has described himself as a MAGA Republican, delivered the speech in late June. I raise you the former president. He shared a video of someone saying the only good democrat is a dead democrat. End of story, it's not both sides. "On May 27, 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump retweeted a video posted to Twitter by the group "Cowboys for Trump" in which the group's leader, Cuoy Griffin, a commissioner for Otero County in New Mexico, stated, "I've come to a place where I've come to the conclusion that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.""
July 18, 20241 yr 39 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Bill the security guard is a photographer now? Dude is amazing. Pretty much an expert in EVERYTHING!
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