11 hours ago, pisceschica said:

One of the main symptoms of TDS is memory loss, so here's a reminder of what your friends did while in office:

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

August was revised down 26k.

"added" 119k jobs in September, but unemployment is up. ADP reported ~30k job losses in September FWIW.

October jobs report canceled, which conveniently skips over some large-scale layoffs.

Yeah the Dems never did this, their jobs reports were not constantly adjusted down.

Every major economy dealt with high inflation post-Covid. The US did much better than any other comparable advanced economy. Fact.

Your boy keeps increasing deficit spending, and our service to the debt now surpasses the cost of our military. Fact.

Inflation is higher in Trump's first year and trending upwards vs Biden's last year, which was trending down. Fact.

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah the Dems never did this, their jobs reports were not constantly adjusted down.

Revisions are always made in the following months, regardless of who is president. That's how the process works.

So let's look at the facts shall we? January 2024 through September 2024, the economy added 1.38 million jobs. January 2025 through September 2025, the economy added 684K jobs. Less than half the job creation during this same period last year. And there's been a HUGE inflection point once Trump's idiotic trade policies went into effect.

May through September of 2024 saw 679K added jobs. May through September 2025 saw 193k. A decline of 72%.

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Every major economy dealt with high inflation post-Covid. The US did much better than any other comparable advanced economy. Fact.

Your boy keeps increasing deficit spending, and our service to the debt now surpasses the cost of our military. Fact.

Inflation is higher in Trump's first year and trending upwards vs Biden's last year, which was trending down. Fact.

Ahh yes, there it is. That sweet, sweet cure-all pandemic. The best thing that ever happened for the incompetent Dems. The only reason Biden even sniffed the White House

It wasn't all the pandemic, and you know it.

Just own the fact that Dems are incompetent ghouls, and whoopsie they are actually the ones who were buddy-buddy with Epstein.

L after L for the party of commie TDSers who hate everything about America

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Inflation is higher in Trump's first year and trending upwards vs Biden's last year, which was trending down. Fact.

Who knew that adding additional taxes to the costs of goods would result in an increase in price?!?!

Just now, Phillyterp85 said:

Who knew that adding additional taxes to the costs of goods would result in an increase in price?!?!

Who knew all time record highs in spending would take us decades to recover from??

Who cares, you can just blame everything on Trump and morons eat it up because Orange Man Bad

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Who knew all time record highs in spending would take us decades to recover from??

Who cares, you can just blame everything on Trump and morons eat it up because Orange Man Bad

You realize that we've been having record highs in spending pretty much every single year, regardless of who is president, right? You realize that during Trump's first term, the deficit significantly increased and went to $1 trillion BEFORE the pandemic happened, right? You realize that currently under Trump, we are still partaking in record spending with no plan in sight to ever change, right? You realize that currently under Trump, the deficit is project to increase to over $2 trillion for the foreseeable future, right?

You act as if Trump is some fiscally conservative politician who wants to get our budget in check when in reality he's just as fiscally irresponsible as the liberals. I don't understand why you do it though. He certainly isn't paying you for your services.

1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:

You realize that we've been having record highs in spending pretty much every single year, regardless of who is president, right? You realize that during Trump's first term, the deficit significantly increased and went to $1 trillion BEFORE the pandemic happened, right? You realize that currently under Trump, we are still partaking in record spending with no plan in sight to ever change, right? You realize that currently under Trump, the deficit is project to increase to over $2 trillion for the foreseeable future, right?

You act as if Trump is some fiscally conservative politician who wants to get our budget in check when in reality he's just as fiscally irresponsible as the liberals. I don't understand why you do it though. He certainly isn't paying you to for your services.

Do you realize Biden doubled down on the spending the likes of which we've never seen before, and probably won't ever again?

Say it here. Own it.

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Do you realize Biden doubled down on the spending the likes of which we've never seen before, and probably won't ever again?

Say it here. Own it.

You got some numbers to back that up? Maybe we can get a side-by-side comparison of Trump's first term along with it?

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Do you realize Biden doubled down on the spending the likes of which we've never seen before, and probably won't ever again?

Say it here. Own it.

Lol nice whataboutism. Well actually it was Trump that initially doubled down on the spending in response to the pandemic. And then Biden continued on with that increased spending and added more. And now Trump is going to continue on with that spending. Hence why we are projected to run $2 trillion deficits for the foreseeable future.

What do you mean "say it here, own it”? Own what? Unlike you I’m not a partisan hack. Biden was a bad president. He was fiscally irresponsible. We haven’t had a fiscally responsible president in ages. Trump is also fiscally irresponsible.

Not sure what you thought you were going to prove with your "but what about Biden” post. That only works with partisan hacks.

Just now, Phillyterp85 said:

Lol nice whataboutism. Yes of course Biden increased spending. And now Trump is going to continue on with that spending.

No he's not. Youre skirting around the fact that Bidens spending was insane and unprecedented.

I just showed you the charts, Trump isn't continuing that.

"Of course Biden increased spending" is the understatement of the century, because that's how long it's going to take to recover

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

No he's not. Youre skirting around the fact that Bidens spending was insane and unprecedented.

I just showed you the charts, Trump isn't continuing that.

"Of course Biden increased spending" is the understatement of the century, because that's how long it's going to take to recover

Trump isn't continuing on with the reckless spending? Really? So the $2+ trillion deficits we are projected to run for the next 10 years is just imaginary?

14 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

No he's not. Youre skirting around the fact that Bidens spending was insane and unprecedented.

I just showed you the charts, Trump isn't continuing that.

"Of course Biden increased spending" is the understatement of the century, because that's how long it's going to take to recover

Apparently you have problems reading your own charts that you post, so here it is again, but with more data points, and with lines drawn showing where Trump was president. Because apparently you think Biden was president in 2020......

Who was president from Jan 2017 to December 2020? Trump or someone else? Did spending go up or down during this time period?

Who has been president since January 2025? Trump or someone else? Has spending gone up or down since this time?

21 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

No he's not. Youre skirting around the fact that Bidens spending was insane and unprecedented.

I just showed you the charts, Trump isn't continuing that.

"Of course Biden increased spending" is the understatement of the century, because that's how long it's going to take to recover

And here's another fun one for you.

2013 Q1 - Spending was 3.758 Trillion. 2016 Q4 spending was 4.175 Trillion. That's an increase of 11% under Obama.

2017 Q1 - Spending was 4.192 Trillion. 2020 Q1 (BEFORE the pandemic hits) spending was 4.866 trillion. That's an increase of 16% under Trump, in an even shorter amount of time!

So in Trump's first term, spending increased at an even faster rate than it had under that big government liberal Obama's 2nd term.

That's reality. Those are the facts. Trump has 0 interest in reducing spending and reducing the deficit. He's a big reckless spending politician just like the rest of them.

3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

And here's another fun one for you.

2013 Q1 - Spending was 3.758 Trillion. 2016 Q4 spending was 4.175 Trillion. That's an increase of 11% under Obama.

2017 Q1 - Spending was 4.192 Trillion. 2020 Q1 (BEFORE the pandemic hits) spending was 4.866 trillion. That's an increase of 16% under Trump, in an even shorter amount of time!

So in Trump's first term, spending increased at an even faster rate than it had under that big government liberal Obama's 2nd term.

That's reality. Those are the facts. Trump has 0 interest in reducing spending and reducing the deficit. He's a big reckless spending politician just like the rest of them.

53 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I don't understand how these Trumpers just spout nonsense falsehoods when there is simple data right there to look at. And in this case, he was actually looking at the data and still went with it. smh....

WV Mike embarrassing himself as usual, trying to argue at the grown up table again I see.

23 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I don't understand how these Trumpers just spout nonsense falsehoods when there is simple data right there to look at. And in this case, he was actually looking at the data and still went with it. smh....

The thing I’ve noticed with some of them when you present them with clear cut data the response is "data can be manipulated”.

44 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I don't understand how these Trumpers just spout nonsense falsehoods when there is simple data right there to look at. And in this case, he was actually looking at the data and still went with it. smh....

Easy answer. Because their leader, orange felon, does it all the time.

20 minutes ago, Bill said:

The thing I’ve noticed with some of them when you present them with clear cut data the response is "data can be manipulated”.

Whatever happened to the "alternative facts" they used to spout? Guess they all realized there is literally no such thing.

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Apparently you have problems reading your own charts that you post, so here it is again, but with more data points, and with lines drawn showing where Trump was president. Because apparently you think Biden was president in 2020......

Who was president from Jan 2017 to December 2020? Trump or someone else? Did spending go up or down during this time period?

Who has been president since January 2025? Trump or someone else? Has spending gone up or down since this time?

SOURCE?!

3 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

Just own the fact that Dems are incompetent ghouls, and whoopsie they are actually the ones who were buddy-buddy with Epstein.

Yup it was just the Dems who were Buddy buddy with Epstein.

oh wait….

3 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Apparently you have problems reading

You could've stopped here. The rest was just another way of reminding everyone that he's from West Virginia but with extra steps.

2 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I don't understand how these Trumpers just spout nonsense falsehoods when there is simple data right there to look at. And in this case, he was actually looking at the data and still went with it. smh....

They can't read, do math, or own a calendar. That's how.