1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They are occupying the unblocked end.  It's just that Hurts no longer beats the unblocked player to the edge.  The play below was right after Goedert's first long reception in the first quarter.

The spacing is bad. 96 is in position to attack both the RB and the QB. In that situation you hand off because it’s too late to do anything else. More to the point, don’t run a RO against a player you can’t read. If the DE or LB is in a wider set, fine, run it. Here, it’s a bad play call.

12 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Anyone ever wonder why there aren’t more white defensive tackles? I get the lack of CBs, not too many white guys can run a 4.3, but just be fat and strong? Tons of white Olineman, but the only good white DT that comes to mind is Kyle Williams, who retired 6 years ago. The rest are rotational nobodies like Beau Allen 

Andy Harmon and Rhett Hall were pretty good for brief periods.  Harmon was actually really good, but injuries shortened that career.

 

And then there's Mike Golic... though he was rotational!

32 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

He played 326 games in his career.  He must have averaged at least 3.07 concussions/game to get to the thousands.

You forget pop warner, HS, college, etc. Still probably an exaggeration, but...

31 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I remain a Gainwell guy. I'd like to see them give him a few more carries.  The Eagles have handed the ball to someone not named Barkley 3 times total. 

But like...why? JAGwell is not a dynamic back. He was in college, but never has been in the NFL. Shipley hasn't proven yet whether he is or isn't. Would much rather see him getting touches.

They need to completely get rid of the RPO. I don't believe Hurts has lost a step, that doesn't make any sense. It's not like he snapped his ankle in 2022 and since hasn't been the same. He's not old, you don't just wake up at like 25 and look 3 steps slower. Last year in camp he looked slower and it made no sense. I don't think he's running as hard because he's afraid to get hit running full speed after hurting his shoulder in 2022 on a collision.

 

Sounds like DeJean is the new full time PR

37 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

That was the question for years when Ali was diagnosed but looks like having had at least one concussion in your life increases your Parkinson's risk from 2 in a thousand to 3 in a thousand (i.e. correlated with about a 50% increase in risk.)

https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2018/a-new-study-on-concussions-and-parkinsons-provides-one-more-reason-to-protect-your-noggin-neel-v-patel

@Iggles_Phan some more papers on the subject. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23609436/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25726936/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29669907/

 

First one is a meta-analysis and the last one looks at even mild TBI.  The data appears mostly centered around older patients getting head injuries so the correlation to football may not be as well established but it's an easy jump to make logically. 

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I'm still tentative about the defense. New Orleans game plan was pretty weak and even after they lost two of their interior linemen they just kept doing the same old run it out of 12/21. I don't know if the defense we saw Sunday was the result of a good defensive game plan or a bad offensive game plan. I think we might still have some growing pains when teams play primarily 11 and spread the defense out. We'll see.

It's certainly way more encouraging than where we were a week ago. There are still a lot of questions this team needs to answer but if they can answer those questions and put it all together, the NFC is wide open. 

Yeah.  We match up well to a heavy 12 / 21 personnel offense.  Also, Ruiz was only out for two plays.

There is plenty of potential on the defense...

• Carter will continue to be disruptive
• We get some larger leads to enable our pass rush
• DeJean starts to see the field some more
• Mitchell pulls in some of the near miss INTs
• Sidney Brown returns

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They need to completely get rid of the RPO. I don't believe Hurts has lost a step, that doesn't make any sense. It's not like he snapped his ankle in 2022 and since hasn't been the same. He's not old, you don't just wake up at like 25 and look 3 steps slower. Last year in camp he looked slower and it made no sense. I don't think he's running as hard because he's afraid to get hit running full speed after hurting his shoulder in 2022 on a collision.

Saquon is averaging 5.6 ypc. If the RPO is helping him find room on cutbacks or allows him to be more patient in finding a lane, I'm okay with keeping it. I just think Hurts needs to make better reads with it.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

I love Vic Fangio!!!

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Saquon is averaging 5.6 ypc. If the RPO is helping him find room on cutbacks or allows him to be more patient in finding a lane, I'm okay with keeping it. I just think Hurts needs to make better reads with it.

True.  If Hurts gaining one yard on first down contributes to a 150 yard day for #26, then go ahead.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Not sure if this was already posted.  Pretty incredible.

That's pretty good.  I would like to see them put more than one good performance.  

 

25 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Haven’t they been doing that for a few years now? lol

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Haven’t they been doing that for a few years now? lol

Usually Week 1 or 2. I don't think they have been doing it this late into the season before.

33 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They need to completely get rid of the RPO. I don't believe Hurts has lost a step, that doesn't make any sense. It's not like he snapped his ankle in 2022 and since hasn't been the same. He's not old, you don't just wake up at like 25 and look 3 steps slower. Last year in camp he looked slower and it made no sense. I don't think he's running as hard because he's afraid to get hit running full speed after hurting his shoulder in 2022 on a collision.

We are not good at it AND as someone in here has said recently and even again today, the Ds we face are using the LB and the end and just keying on both the RB and QB1.

54 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Not like we have any depth there, Nakobe goes down then we have trouble. No reason to just cut White. 

This is why I would like White active even if he isn't much of a help on special teams.  Say Dean goes down in the second quarter against Dallas and is out for the game.  I would be more comfortable with White coming in the games rather than Trotter and BVS.  Burks is also a possibility.

48 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Anyone ever wonder why there aren’t more white defensive tackles? I get the lack of CBs, not too many white guys can run a 4.3, but just be fat and strong? Tons of white Olineman, but the only good white DT that comes to mind is Kyle Williams, who retired 6 years ago. The rest are rotational nobodies like Beau Allen 

JJ Watt would've probably been a DT in a 4-3. Same with Justin Smith from the Niners about a decade ago. For a true 3-4 DT/NT, there was Kelly Gregg on the Ravens a bit before them. 

Have there been any repercussions on Penning’s late block on Slay or the late hit on DeVonta or is the league just going to let that go? 

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Have there been any repercussions on Penning’s late block on Slay or the late hit on DeVonta or is the league just going to let that go? 

Fines usually come out Thursday/Friday. That's all that will probably happen. Penning probably will be fined, I don't think Turner does. 

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Anyone ever wonder why there aren’t more white defensive tackles? I get the lack of CBs, not too many white guys can run a 4.3, but just be fat and strong? Tons of white Olineman, but the only good white DT that comes to mind is Kyle Williams, who retired 6 years ago. The rest are rotational nobodies like Beau Allen 

Reggie WHITE was pretty good.

I'll show myself out.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I know the near term injuries are concerning, but this is a really good roster.

The OL is solid.  Jurgens looks to be a top-10ish center in the NFL.  Becton looks comfortable at RG.  We have to solid backups in Steen and Johnson.  We have four legitimate weapons in Brown, Smith, Barkley, and Goedert.  And even though he is imperfect, Hurts is still a reason why we win games.

Hopefully the defense we saw on Sunday is what we'll see going forward.  Carter will be All-Pro by the end of the season.  The edge guys look like they have a pulse.  Baun is a real LB.  The biggest part of this is seeing Mitchell already playing at a high level.  Nailing a first-round CB pick is huge.  And we still haven't seen what DeJean can contribute.

If Sirianni can figure out how to stay out of the way, the combination of Moore, Fangio, and talent should gets us very far.

Kind of strange that the team needs to hope the HC doesn't overrule the playcalling because he's been so bad at it. Goes back to the whole "what do you do here" thing

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

They need to completely get rid of the RPO. I don't believe Hurts has lost a step, that doesn't make any sense. It's not like he snapped his ankle in 2022 and since hasn't been the same. He's not old, you don't just wake up at like 25 and look 3 steps slower. Last year in camp he looked slower and it made no sense. I don't think he's running as hard because he's afraid to get hit running full speed after hurting his shoulder in 2022 on a collision.

Agreed about RPO needing to go. Something is off. It's just not working

Lol

 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Saquon is averaging 5.6 ypc. If the RPO is helping him find room on cutbacks or allows him to be more patient in finding a lane, I'm okay with keeping it. I just think Hurts needs to make better reads with it.

How do you measure that though?  Seems to me that Saquon has his best runs on straight runs, but maybe I am mistaking a 'give' on a RO for a straight run.  

42 minutes ago, just relax said:

Reggie WHITE was pretty good.

I'll show myself out.

 Good stuff, but he was a DE primarily.

 

Now, Randy White was a pretty good DT, for anyone that can admit that.