Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

His emotions get in the way, but it almost seems like he has no feel for the game.  What's the benefit of being up 18-0 versus 17-0?   Just a stupid decision to take the points off the board in that moment.  The Jags had shown no life, so why give them anything to feel even the least bit good about?   Just take the point, and move on.   Similarly, he needs to stop going for it on 4th and 3ish when a 40 yard FG is staring him in the face, and the opponent has no points, especially when you are the vastly more talented team.   He needs to take the points and do better the next time to get 7, but stop trying to force it and stop trying to prove he is aggressive.   He's not aggressive, he's reckless.   Lane Johnson recognizes it.  Listen to Lane, Nick.  He's got more sense than you.

I also think it sends the wrong messages to your own team, and others. Other teams already don't like Nick, and if he's trying to be cocky and rack up extra points for no reason, that will come back to bite him. Cue the Jordan "and I took that personally." To his own team, it can affect the confidence they have in him making the right decisions. It can affect morale. A turnover on downs in FG range where the defense has to go out and stop them but you could have at least scored 3 points, those type of decisions can pile up. There are game momentum and situational awareness factors as well.

2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I watched this video and I now think the refs probably were correct.  The defender touches his ankle and then he plants with that same foot before running into Dickerson.  I really would like to complain about this call more but it wasn't wrong.  On the other hand, it makes my hatred of Siranni's stupid decision making more justified.  

When the entire broadcast crew including Steratore thinks it was a bad call, as well as all the beat writers and most of Reddit, I tend to believe that the Refs did indeed balls this up.

Whats more I guarantee if Barkley keeps hold of the ball gets up from that and runs it in for a TD it gets called back because 'on further review the Runner was down by contact at the 34 yard line, please reset the game clock to 5.22, it's 2nd down'

 

6 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

When the entire broadcast crew including Steratore thinks it was a bad call, as well as all the beat writers and most of Reddit, I tend to believe that the Refs did indeed balls this up.

Whats more I guarantee if Barkley keeps hold of the ball gets up from that and runs it in for a TD it gets called back because 'on further review the Runner was down by contact at the 34 yard line, please reset the game clock to 5.22, it's 2nd down'

Horrible call.  I was screaming at my Tv. And thinking  "did everyone forget the rules of football?”  

43 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

His excuse of wanting to be aggressive is just non-sensical.  The Jags are not a good team. You don't need to aggressive because there's a small margin of talent difference.  You need to be mistake free and play sound football.  You want to play conservatively because that leads to the best chance to win. 

His answer in the post game about "having the balls to make those decisions" says all you need to know. 

In 2024 no one would question a coach going for a 2 point conversion or 4th down if it makes mathematical sense or is strategic in some way.

But with him, too often it's not strategic decision-making, it's about ego.  He has to learn how to avoid that or he'll turn into a Brandon Staley caricature.

24 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't like the play and wish they didn't use it all the time but refs are screwing us over. Flag the damn defense when they're clearly offside. It's crazy how they're allowing the Dline to basically touch the Olines helmets

Officials in that game were just as bad as sirianni. Someone had a really good frame shot on Twitter of hurts on one of the 2 point conversions. He’s at worst he’s right on the goal line with the ball. It should’ve been good. The fumble as also BS. If Saquon wouldn’t have fumbled and got up and started running, I guarantee they reviewed that play and say he was down. We’ve seen that play happen before. And they ruled him down after review. This is the NFL officials, not wanting to admit making a mistake after reviewing it and doubling down on their stupidity.

 

The one thing still nagging me about this team is the passing game. Hurts has played better in terms of decisions and turnovers and whatnot, but for a team with this much talent, you can count maybe one or two times per game this team has receivers wide open. Or it happens more often than that and Hurts just isn't seeing them. But I watch the better teams play ans they have a handful of times per game where there will be a receiver wide open in the middle of the field. Every throw Hurts completes is a difficult throw. It's no wonder this offense can look like a slog at times.

Whatever the cause of this is, it needs to be fixed because it isn't sustainable. You are going to struggle to beat the good teams with your offense operating this way.

This is the major reason why AJ Brown has been so important to this team. Of course he's an amazing player, but in the NFL you can lose amazing players and still be good. The Eagles should have enough talent to do so. But when you don't scheme guys open, and you're left with guys who can't make those contested or difficult catches, your passing game is going to be a zero.

The Eagles dominated the game yesterday on paper, but the pass game still looks clunky and gross and has pretty much all season. Until that changes, I can't buy this team as a true contender.

16 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Well, guess they had to go back to giving me heart attacks. Was in the stands for this one, so didn't get to see as much. But here are my takeaways from the game.

OFFENSE

- Hurts played another strong game. Sure, he missed a couple open guys here and there, but he made up for it with some amazing plays as well. 230 yards passing, 67 on the ground, and 3 TDs -- that's 2022 Jalen. He's never going to be the guy to hit a bunch of timing routes and short passes, but using play action to throw the ball down the field is where he excels and the coaches are finally letting him do that. Another insane YPA at 9.2, 75% completion rate and no turnovers. The 2 completions on the last TD drive to DeVonta were perfection. He's firmly in the MVP race now.

- Barkley was amazing, but with 2 monster blemishes. The "fumble" can't happen, even though the refs got it wrong. And going down short of the 1st down was almost a huge mistake. But then he carves up the defense, makes a great TD catch, and we all saw the hurdle. Obviously, we'll take it. If he cleaned up those 2 things, he'd basically be the perfect RB, so it is nitpicking. But it does keep happening (drop against Falcons, not getting the 1st down against the Browns). 

- DeVonta's catch was the most absurd thing ever and happened right in front of my seats. I didn't think there was any way he was inbounds. Elite body control. He's a #1 receiver on at least half the teams in the league.

- It was far away from me, but that really didn't look like OPI on Wilson in the end zone.

- Jahan Dotson is alive?

- 210 passing, 237 rushing. 46 rushes to 24 passes. Old school football -- run and throw deep. Perfect gameplan that was almost ruined by the HC and refs...

DEFENSE

- The defensive line may have only sacked Lawrence twice, but they had pressure a lot and made him move. From my eyes, Sweat, Nolan and Carter played incredibly well. 

- Just can't say enough about the LBs, especially Baun. Guy seemed to be everywhere. It's unreal how much better the defense looks with competent linebacker play.

- I really tried to focus on Q and Coop, and I can say this -- they are legit. Lawrence wasn't throwing at Q because he was locking down his man. Coop is physical and fights for the ball. Getting to see more of the whole field than the TV angle, these guys are playing very well.

- CJGJ can't be in 1 on 1 coverage.

COACHING

- I just can't with the decision making anymore...while it looked like Jalen got the 2 points the first time, I have no clue why we didn't just go up 17-0 and get a 3 score lead. And then not kicking the FG to go up 25-16, and running that rollout play which everyone saw coming...Nick really was trying to cost us the game.  

I really can't fault Barkley for that fumble. Someone earlier made a great point. What would happen if Barkley just got up and ran into the endzone? If you'd turn that over then he was down when he fell lol

We're so lucky that Smith is humbled and not a diva because good god we're wasting him

37 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I agree...to a point. I think he was desperate to get 1st quarter points which is understandable, and the offensive roster is stacked with star talent playing against a bad team. So I get that initially. At the same time, take the points to get that monkey off your back, get the FG and then score again the next drive and now you've built confidence and a lead.

But if he's going to be aggressive early and it doesn't work, then you must switch to conservative to get the points and secure a comfortable lead. Then, if you want to try out some creative plays or put the analytics to the test or something, you can do that with a big lead against a bad team.

It's situational. I think Doug when he was here had better sense of when to be aggressive, as an advantage to the other team not expecting it vs just being too risky and stupid.

Siri just needs to find the balance. He's too emotional.

A 13 point lead is good.  They should have been up by 20 at half and 27 in the third quarter. The score should have been 37 to 22.  

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Officials in that game were just as bad as sirianni. Someone had a really good frame shot on Twitter of hurts on one of the 2 point conversions. He’s at worst he’s right on the goal line with the ball. It should’ve been good. The fumble as also BS. If Saquon wouldn’t have fumbled and got up and started running, I guarantee they reviewed that play and say he was down. We’ve seen that play happen before. And they ruled him down after review. This is the NFL officials, not wanting to admit making a mistake after reviewing it and doubling down on their stupidity.

That was when he was twisting Hurts helmet off. I was screaming at the tv!

The Giants kept this...

Instead of this....

2 hours ago, Cliftoma said:

With the trade dealine tomorrow, what position would you like to see addressed if Howie makes a move?

I'd say either a DE or legit RB who can carry the load behind Barkley. 

Huff has been a non factor to say the least. Nolan Smith has started to show up but it would nice to have someone else who can get to the QB besides Sweat.

I like Gainwell more than most but he doesn't have the burst.  If they aren't going to incorporate Shipley into the offense, I think they could do better there.

Agree on Gainwell.  I like him more than most.  He is fluid, every so often will have an outstanding play demonstrating great balance after contact.  The coaches clearly trust him.  They trust him in blitz pickup, going in motion, catching to football, etc…they can use the full playbook with him out there.  But the burst isn’t there.  Shipley has the burst.  But there’s clearly no trust.

Backup rb for this team is like the 5th starter on a baseball team preparing for a playoff run.  You’ll barely even use them in the playoffs, but it keeps your horses healthy.  

Id sooner just work Shipley into the offense than trade for someone though.  

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The one thing still nagging me about this team is the passing game. Hurts has played better in terms of decisions and turnovers and whatnot, but for a team with this much talent, you can count maybe one or two times per game this team has receivers wide open. Or it happens more often than that and Hurts just isn't seeing them. But I watch the better teams play ans they have a handful of times per game where there will be a receiver wide open in the middle of the field. Every throw Hurts completes is a difficult throw. It's no wonder this offense can look like a slog at times.

Whatever the cause of this is, it needs to be fixed because it isn't sustainable. You are going to struggle to beat the good teams with your offense operating this way.

It's the opposite. Really good defenses don't have blown coverages that the Shanahan/McVay tree takes advantage of. It's why those offenses have historically struggled in the playoffs unless they get a true big-boy QB like Stafford who will make tough throws.

The offense we're currently using is very sustainable because we're finally balanced. 

35 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

"dat arm talent doe!" and "Good Lord, that arm!"

rstarter, iykyk

Signing him to a $150million contract with their looming cap situation was just insane, he's untradeable and uncuttable, they had to extend one of Dalton or Jameis for peanuts when they had them in the building to tide them over to a decent QB draft rather than trading, Loomis has really lost the run of their roster the last couple of years, they were a solid drafting team with a lot of good young players at the start of the 20's, but they really muffed the post Brees era so far.

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

That was when he was twisting Hurts helmet off. I was screaming at the tv!

Sirianni deserves to get ridicule for his decision-making in this game. But there’s a 10 point swing because the officials just couldn’t get the call right after review. That is absurd. If we are having reviews that take forever then you better be able to get it Fing right. Then to have the audacity to double down on it after the game because you don’t wanna be ridiculed for saying you got it wrong. It’s obvious to everybody that you got it wrong. I’m usually not a the official screwed a team. Because it tends to happen and you get one game where you get screwed and another game it’s in your favor. But this was completely absurd especially after reviews 

14 hours ago, RLC said:

We can beat Dallas without AJ even IF Dak & Lamb play. They can't stop the run. 

Not if sirianni does what he did yesterday..no
And their kicker is pretty much automatic from 55+

44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If huff wasn’t so bad and have everyone’s attention, people would be giving CJGJ more gripe cause he’s really not been very good this year. Not that PFF is the end all be all but his grade is a 55.2 and he ranks 106th out of 140 safety’s. 

He has never been a good safety since he converted. 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's the opposite. Really good defenses don't have blown coverages that the Shanahan/McVay tree takes advantage of. It's why those offenses have historically struggled in the playoffs unless they get a true big-boy QB like Stafford who will make tough throws.

The offense we're currently using is very sustainable because we're finally balanced. 

Not sure I agree because when the team goes up against a defense good enough to limit the Eagles running game, I think they're going to be in a world of hurt. Sometimes in the NFL you need to be able to lean really heavily into one thing or the other. Sure, against bad or even mediocre teams you can probably do what you do, but against the good and elite teams, you may have to get away from what you do. If there's a game where the run game just isn't working and Hurts needs to throw it 40-45 times, I think this team has very little chance to win. I don't like this passing attack, I haven't for two years. It still doesn't look right.

Honestly, the one thing really helping the Eagles isn't that the Eagles are some great team, but that the NFC may only have one great team in the Lions. So the Eagles are kind of at the top by default. The NFC is an absolute train wreck this season.

 

 

Just now, vikas83 said:

 

This was one of my favorites 

17 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

The Giants kept this...

Instead of this....

Someone needs to do a cut out of that image… It’s the best one since flying Dawk

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

 

He's been really, really good, but we've also played some bad teams.

The next four games are big. Zero excuses losing to Dallas, especially with Dak and Lamb potentially being out 

I really do not mean this as a Hurts criticism....but I do think they/he made his job easier after the bye.  I think they incorporate more designed runs with both Barkley and Hurts, condensed his reads and decision-making.  

While I am still somewhat frustrated this was necessary for a $250m qb, there can be no doubt that his net QB production has been outstanding for the last 2 weeks.  Hurts is running in the way he did in 2021...the overall volume and efficacy of the ground game through Barkley/Hurts is generating opportunities in the passing game.  With the quality of the top 2 WRs and teams loading boxes to deal with the run (and Hurts' excellent accuracy on deep balls), it hasn't really been necessary to make a ton of decisions or target 3rd reads in this offense.

That's fine...Hurts isn't the first QB to have a coach digest a lot of the offense for them (we see it with great success in LA and SF).  

But what IS interesting...if the success continues...Moore will get his HC offers in the offseason.  And if Moore found a way to unlock Hurts and run this offense in a fashion reminiscent of 2022...how do you let him leave?  It's going to be a problem.