4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Detroit plays 14 of their 17 games in a domed stadium. Granted, they went to GB and beat the Packers in the rain, but that's a serious advantage for a team that's built for the indoors. The Eagles having homefield in the playoffs would be huge for that potential matchup. Losing last night would have gone a long way to helping the Eagles as I don't see them in too many unfavorable matchups the rest of the year.

Completely agree. I’d pick us to beat them at the Linc or on a neutral outdoor stadium. But in Detroit or a domed stadium and I think they have a slight advantage. So yeah getting top seed will be key and unfortunately that Atlanta game looks like it is going to hurt us big time.

Just now, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Seemingly. At the moment. But I feel pretty confident that some current four win team is going to be going into the last couple weeks of the season well positioned for the playoffs. A team like the Bengals, Bucs, or maybe the Colts.

Yes on the AFC Side, those 3 and 4 wins teams are still alive because so many teams have losses.   On the NFC Side, yes there's a cluster of 4 wins teams that I think still have a shots like you said. The problem on the NFC side is that The Wild Card winners will have 10 or more wins for sure.    Everyone in the NFC Wild Card right now has 6 and 7 wins.    I agree with you about the Bengals as the AFC Wild Card could have some teams with less than 10 wins.  But every time I think they will dig out of the hole, they lose again. Maybe this just isn't the Bengals year.  We'll see.  8 games is still a lot that can happen. 

 

9 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Completely agree. I’d pick us to beat them at the Linc or on a neutral outdoor stadium. But in Detroit or a domed stadium and I think they have a slight advantage. So yeah getting top seed will be key and unfortunately that Atlanta game looks like it is going to hurt us big time.

I think the home field advantage for an outdoor team facing off against an indoor team is always weighted in the favor of the outdoor team.  Indoor teams generally have offenses that work best in ideal conditions, aka they can pass with impunity and they build their defenses around their pass rush.  But, outdoor teams have to be able to be successful in less ideal conditions, i.e. they have to be strong as running teams.  

 

The Lions would be, IMO, less successful coming to the Linc, than the Eagles would be going to Detroit.  There is the noise factor and all of that, but I think most teams have worked through those elements pretty well over the years.  I don't see it as a major factor.   Meanwhile, running games travel well.  So, being a team that can lean heavily on Barkley and even Hurts running the ball, I give the Eagles a higher percentage chance in Detroit, than I would give to Detroit in Philly.   I'm not sure what the odds would be... Maybe Detroit at Philly and Detroit wins 25% of the time, and Philly at Detroit, Philly wins 40% of the time.    

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think the home field advantage for an outdoor team facing off against an indoor team is always weighted in the favor of the outdoor team.  Indoor teams generally have offenses that work best in ideal conditions, aka they can pass with impunity and they build their defenses around their pass rush.  But, outdoor teams have to be able to be successful in less ideal conditions, i.e. they have to be strong as running teams.  

 

The Lions would be, IMO, less successful coming to the Linc, than the Eagles would be going to Detroit.  There is the noise factor and all of that, but I think most teams have worked through those elements pretty well over the years.  I don't see it as a major factor.   Meanwhile, running games travel well.  So, being a team that can lean heavily on Barkley and even Hurts running the ball, I give the Eagles a higher percentage chance in Detroit, than I would give to Detroit in Philly.   I'm not sure what the odds would be... Maybe Detroit at Philly and Detroit wins 25% of the time, and Philly at Detroit, Philly wins 40% of the time.    

Yeah I’d agree we’d have more of an advantage at home than they would. Like you say I think they’d still have a slight edge over us at home but only slight but in Philly I think we’d have a good advantage there.

42 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I would add that Jalyx Hunt had a decent debut during non-garbage time. A tipped pass and a tackle in 25 percent of defensive snaps is definitely not bad. If he can turn into a decent depth player this year, this draft only gets better. 

He is one dude i need to go back and watch

44 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think the home field advantage for an outdoor team facing off against an indoor team is always weighted in the favor of the outdoor team.  Indoor teams generally have offenses that work best in ideal conditions, aka they can pass with impunity and they build their defenses around their pass rush.  But, outdoor teams have to be able to be successful in less ideal conditions, i.e. they have to be strong as running teams.  

 

The Lions would be, IMO, less successful coming to the Linc, than the Eagles would be going to Detroit.  There is the noise factor and all of that, but I think most teams have worked through those elements pretty well over the years.  I don't see it as a major factor.   Meanwhile, running games travel well.  So, being a team that can lean heavily on Barkley and even Hurts running the ball, I give the Eagles a higher percentage chance in Detroit, than I would give to Detroit in Philly.   I'm not sure what the odds would be... Maybe Detroit at Philly and Detroit wins 25% of the time, and Philly at Detroit, Philly wins 40% of the time.    

TBH i think the key to the eagles/lions matchup is our pass rush’s ability to get to Goff. Their oline is top 3 and arguably the best in the league. If you are gonna take them down then you really need to hit Goff and get him off his rhythm. I think last night for Goff was more of an outlier in the fact the Texans only had 5 QB hits and managed to create 5 ints (one at the end of the half on a Hail Mary). Don’t get me wrong you cannot let Montgomery and Gibbs just gash you either but really think we’d need a big game from our pass rush. It’s why i was hoping huff would get better as season went on or we make a move. Imo the defense is an elite pass rusher away from going to another level. I wouldn’t be shocked if we make a big move for one in the offseason.  

Lmao 

 

2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I do think they could throw more slants and shallow crossing routes.  It may be a function of not seeing much man coverage but it would be nic see them develop a counter punch to stacked boxes beyond deep throws.  

When teams play a single high safety and crowd the LOS, that puts 10 guys in a relatively short space. Slants and shallow crosses play into the strength of such a defense. The weakness in such a defense is the area behind the second level, not in the second level. And with two stud WRs, that lone safety can only help with one. I do agree, however, that slants and shallow crosses are not ideal against zone coverages.

 

59 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think the home field advantage for an outdoor team facing off against an indoor team is always weighted in the favor of the outdoor team.  Indoor teams generally have offenses that work best in ideal conditions, aka they can pass with impunity and they build their defenses around their pass rush.  But, outdoor teams have to be able to be successful in less ideal conditions, i.e. they have to be strong as running teams.  

 

The Lions would be, IMO, less successful coming to the Linc, than the Eagles would be going to Detroit.  There is the noise factor and all of that, but I think most teams have worked through those elements pretty well over the years.  I don't see it as a major factor.   Meanwhile, running games travel well.  So, being a team that can lean heavily on Barkley and even Hurts running the ball, I give the Eagles a higher percentage chance in Detroit, than I would give to Detroit in Philly.   I'm not sure what the odds would be... Maybe Detroit at Philly and Detroit wins 25% of the time, and Philly at Detroit, Philly wins 40% of the time.    

While I agree with your general premise about indoor vs. outdoor teams, that does not apply to Detroit. They are not a finesse team. They have a great OL, comparable to ours and a stacked defense. I am much impressed by them, especially since they are without their best defensive player for the year. 

6 minutes ago, just relax said:

While I agree with your general premise about indoor vs. outdoor teams, that does not apply to Detroit. They are not a finesse team. They have a great OL, comparable to ours and a stacked defense. I am much impressed by them, especially since they are without their best defensive player for the year. 

Yes, they are fine outdoors recently. Even two seasons ago, they ended the year by winning at Lambeau in subfreezing temperatures.  They didn’t even have a reason to play hard that game because their playoff chances had been killed prior to kickoff.  They got it done anyway… No, they are going to be tough to face no matter where it is.

1 hour ago, greend said:

Things are looking pretty good eh?

Well the Cowboys, Jags and Giants suck. But thankfully they are winning these games convincingly, not "ugly wins" like last year. The Jags game got way too close than it should have that was odd. Can't do that against good teams. They did beat the Bengals who aren't as bad as their record indicates. 

After last season's collapse I still want to see how they do in this next stretch. Thankfully they're at home since it's a short week against Commanders. Then they fly to LA to play the Chargers, at the Ravens. That's their toughest stretch this season and will tell us if they're past last season's issues and will be a contender. After the Panthers at home, then it's the Steelers then at Commanders again which neither will be easy, then 2 easy games where they may even rest the starters against the Cowboys. 

The Georgia boys are finally coming around. In hindsight I'd still rather have Brian Branch than Nolan Smith I think, but all the Georgia guys are contributing now and playing well respective to their roles.

We'll find out of this defense is for real over the next few weeks. I don't expect them to be as dominant as the past several games, but I expect them to do well enough to win each of the next 3 games, it's if the offense can hold up their end of the bargain.

 

9 minutes ago, McMVP said:

Yes, they are fine outdoors recently. Even two seasons ago, they ended the year by winning at Lambeau in subfreezing temperatures.  They didn’t even have a reason to play hard that game because their playoff chances had been killed prior to kickoff.  They got it done anyway… No, they are going to be tough to face no matter where it is.

Definitely agree. The Eagles @ Detroit week 1 match up in 2022 was crazy too. That was the coming out of this new lions era and they came out swinging. Eagles held on to win 38-35, but today's lions defense is significantly better. That 22 lions team had a top offense and a bottom defense, now they seem to have both. It would be a pretty good match for the Eagles, and hope we get to see them in the playoffs.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Georgia boys are finally coming around. In hindsight I'd still rather have Brian Branch than Nolan Smith I think, but all the Georgia guys are contributing now and playing well respective to their roles.

We'll find out of this defense is for real over the next few weeks. I don't expect them to be as dominant as the past several games, but I expect them to do well enough to win each of the next 3 games, it's if the offense can hold up their end of the bargain.

In the 2 games after we held them to 17, the Bengals scored 41 and 34. Yes, the first one was the Raiders. But this week was the Ravens. They are the number 6 scoring offense in the league at 27 PPG and we shut them down. 

It hasn't all been terrible offenses since the bye. 

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

In the 2 games after we held them to 17, the Bengals scored 41 and 34. Yes, the first one was the Raiders. But this week was the Ravens. They are the number 6 scoring offense in the league at 27 PPG and we shut them down. 

It hasn't all been terrible offenses since the bye. 

It hasn't. I could see this defense struggling vs the Ravens though. Lamar is a different animal with his legs, he's hard to gameplan for. And even if they get lit up by the Ravens, I wouldn't think that means the defense is fool's gold, even the best defenses in today's NFL get lit up now and again.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It hasn't. I could see this defense struggling vs the Ravens though. Lamar is a different animal with his legs, he's hard to gameplan for. And even if they get lit up by the Ravens, I wouldn't think that means the defense is fool's gold, even the best defenses in today's NFL get lit up now and again.

I'm really interested to see us against Jayden and Lamar. Maybe I have PTSD from last year, but mobile QBs always give us issues. Stafford is great, but he can't really move. 

And looking way too far down the road, I don't see Jared Goff as someone who can give us trouble that way.

Mailata's practice window opened today by Eagles

10 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I'm really interested to see us against Jayden and Lamar. Maybe I have PTSD from last year, but mobile QBs always give us issues. Stafford is great, but he can't really move. 

And looking way too far down the road, I don't see Jared Goff as someone who can give us trouble that way.

I have more hope because in prior years we had the tendency to make mediocre QBs look extremely competent. I still remember Sam Howell starting out a game 16/16 against us or something dumb like that.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Mailata's practice window opened today by Eagles

I'd be surprised if he is back for Thursday. Hard to get him reintegrated with only 1 real practice before the game.

14 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Mailata's practice window opened today by Eagles

Will be huge for the run game. Way more balance.

2 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

This is actually pretty typical it seems…on deep balls they seem to hesitate a bit because a lot are underthrown and they’re adjusting.  That throw, i know exactly which one, looked perfect with the stride.

Exactly this, everyone says hurts has a great deep ball but I disagree. Maybe 2 out of 10 are amazing, but he tends to underthrow A LOT. Idk if people are thinking they're great throws because our receivers have made amazing catches on underthrown balls, but he is not consistent at all either them. IMO, to have a great deep ball you have to do it consistently.

When he does throw a good one they are damn good, but not often enough are they actually good. Goes back to the arm strength knock, doesn't have the arm to hit the guys in stride every time but he'll hit one or two