8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We struggled to beat Cleveland and Jacksonville for various reasons. I think we’re getting a little cocky. 

Both those games had anomalies (blocked field goal returned for a touchdown, terrible blown call that led to a touchdown) that made the scores closer than they appeared.

And the fact that we are winning despite getting a lot of bad breaks is indicative that this team is legit.

 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think he’s damn good at trap plays. Been that way his entire career. He’s a good passing down back, but it’s just not a role we really emphasize. In pass pro, he’s spotty. 

It seems like most people in here thinks he sucks. He’s not a starter, but he’s a good role player. 

I think he’s fine as a back up. His contracts up at the end of the year, so unless he comes dirt cheap I tend to think they move on and just give Shipley more of a role. also I tend to think they take another running back probably in the middle round.

I think the more fascinating question is will the Eagles change their philosophy on running back when Saquon Barkley‘s contract is up. Hypothetically if they’re picking somewhere between 26 and 32, would they consider taking a running back seeing how much it helped their offense with Saquon? Now you’re not likely getting Saquon Barkley type talent, but they believe that the running back can be really good, would they consider it at that point. we didn’t think they consider paying a running back that type of money and they did it. I severely doubt they do it with a top 20 pick but back end of the first round is intriguing if they believe the back has a chance to hit big in the offense. I still doubt it but i think they’d potentially ne more opened to it  

On the Jordan Davis conversation -- I think there is a decent chance we extend him this offseason (instead of exercising the 5th year option) at a somewhat team friendly number. I wouldn't discount the value he seems to place on playing with his Georgia boys. Kinda thinking they try and get Dean and Davis on reasonable extensions this offseason.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think he’s fine as a back up. His contracts up at the end of the year, so unless he comes dirt cheap I tend to think they move on and just give Shipley more of a role. also I tend to think they take another running back probably in the middle round.

I think the more fascinating question is will the Eagles change their philosophy on running back when Saquon Barkley‘s contract is up. Hypothetically if they’re picking somewhere between 26 and 32, would they consider taking a running back seeing how much it helped their offense with Saquon? Now you’re not likely getting Saquon Barkley type talent, but they believe that the running back can be really good, would they consider it at that point. we didn’t think they consider paying a running back that type of money and they did it. I severely doubt they do it with a top 20 pick but back end of the first round is intriguing if they believe the back has a chance to hit big in the offense. I still doubt it but i think they’d potentially ne more opened to it  

Figure sawuon is here through 2026 its probably a year too soon unless you have a complete player fall in your lap

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Why would Davis sell low at his age?

On reason is that given the way he is being used here in Philadelphia the wear and tear on his body is relatively low.  That means a longer career.

3 hours ago, mayanh8 said:

It felt the same way last week. You could almost sense the exact point in time when the Cowboys defense gave it up. At that point the Eagles run game is so strong that the second they leaned on them they just fell over. 

I felt that was certainly true last week.  Hurts was one step ahead of the pass rush in the second half after being one step behind the pass rush in the first half.  This game wasn't quite as clear cut.

3 hours ago, McMVP said:

I agree.  That being said, and it may be too early to say this, but there may at least be a possibility that the LB position can turn around for the Eagles in the coming years.  I do not know how long he wants to coach, but I could see Fangio having a Stout-esque effect on that position.  Let’s keep it real… he saw something in Baun that nobody else did.  And I know that he’s had some injuries issues early, but Dean has never looked better either.
 

 

I was thinking the same thing about Fangio. He could be a long term DC just like Stoutland has been and continues to be a long term OL coach.  We should be so lucky.

Also Fangio has to look at the youth of his palyers and be saying to himself, "This is going to be fun!"

5 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Figure sawuon is here through 2026 its probably a year too soon unless you have a complete player fall in your lap

I’m talking after saquon is gone. 

58 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think so.   And frankly, I know it wasn't the 'analytics' move, but it was the smart 'football' move.   You need to be able to trust Jake.  He needs the chance to get out of the yips and what better way than to kick more often.  They will lose games that they should win if their kicker can't finish the drives with points when called upon.

I agree with your point about Jake, but I'd let him work it out in practice. 

IMO if the Eagles go up 3 possessions with 4:30 left to go, backups are in the game and it's a formality.  Since it was still 2 possessions, Quinn decided to try and tie the game. Thankfully no one was injured and nothing came of it.

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

And Smith is starting to come on

they made a point about this being a young D that wants to learn from him, unlike miami last yr

i think Vic values smart players. Ghost plays smart, dejawn as well with even more phsyical ability. Mitchell seems sharp as hell, never seems to get suckered.

baun and dean seem very smart as well

You have left out perhaps the biggest smile maker of them all ... Carter.

22 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Both those games had anomalies (blocked field goal returned for a touchdown, terrible blown call that led to a touchdown) that made the scores closer than they appeared.

And the fact that we are winning despite getting a lot of bad breaks is indicative that this team is legit.

 

Last night was a really solid win that should give everyone a reason to be optimistic, but it was maybe the 4th decent team we've faced, and their QB was a bit dinged up to boot. Previously, we had lost to both the falcons and bucs, and beat the bengals. But outside of that, it's been a fairly soft schedule so while it's true that this team is certainly legit, the question is how we'll stack up against other legit teams, especially the ones we might have to square off against in the playoffs. Looking ahead, I see us maybe losing 2 more games, 3 at the most, which puts us near the top of the playoff seeding, perhaps on the bubble of getting that first round bye. 

https://youtu.be/qrcXZEiWnrc?si=sM-i7eKieyXuZBOt

12 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Al Michaels starting to explain how Washington still has a chance because of two timeouts with 27 seconds left then trailing off because it’s beyond dumb was hilarious 

Career wise he's in the full "F it" stage of his career.  And I'm here for it.

 

 

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Did Nick kick the XP to go up 26-10 just to give Jake a chance to straighten himself out?

Should have gone for two there, no brainer.

I didn't mind that. If you go for two and miss, you can actually LOSE the game in regulation. If you kick and go up sixteen, the absolute worst scenario is overtime.

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d add I’m betting there’s some guys who get restructured to clear some more space. Don’t have the contracts in front of me too look but I’m guessing guys like Dickerson, mailata and devonta smith. @LeanMeanGM is pretty good at knowing contracts that are capable of restructuring to open some more space 

The way Howie has been structuring his contracts recently there's really no one to restructure. He's been using option bonuses every year on all the high profile guys which is essentially the same thing as if he was restructuring them, but skipping out the middle man of doing it every year. All the websites already account for the option bonuses and how they are structured also, so there really isn't any hidden savings anywhere unless someone takes a paycut like Sweat did or you extend a guy like Jordan Davis, although it wouldn't be much. 

You can see in the base salary how everyone is basically at minimum already. 

 

18 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Speaking of that last Barkley touchdown, was anyone else disturbed or worried that he let go of the ball before he crossed the goal line? Yes, it was a legit score but he didn't have to cut it so close.

Briefly, but I was more shocked that he still had gas to circle back and do a full sprint back to the sideline and down towards the bench on what was somewhere in the ballpark of his 25th touch.

 

25 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I have been critical of Hurts when I think he's played like trash, and positive when he's playing well. I try to just call it like it is. Hurts had a rough stretch earlier in the season but has improved lately. He still makes some mistakes and he's not an elite QB or passer. But he still also makes great throws and he's greatly improved on not turning the ball over. He does enough to win.

Last night you saw that Hurts:

• Stayed in the pocket and made throws many times, didn't bail on every play as fans suggest
• Completed passes to the middle of the field
• Getting receivers in stride with accurate throws
• Threw to other receivers besides AJ Brown. AJ had 8 targets, Smith had 6, Goedert 5, Dotson 2, Barkley 3, Gainwell 1 

He has to continue to improve and play smarter, and perform against tougher teams and in the playoffs. I'm not saying he's great, not excusing the bad plays. Just saying that the fans that just say he's nothing but trash are just blind to anything he does well. 

Just my personal opinion but I wouldn't point to last nights game to make a case of Hurts playing well. It was arguably his worst game of the season, all things considered. 

 

1 hour ago, Quiet Boy said:

yes.

gainwell is an upgraded smallwood, and neither could hold buckhalter's jock.

Yup.

23 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Speaking of that last Barkley touchdown, was anyone else disturbed or worried that he let go of the ball before he crossed the goal line? Yes, it was a legit score but he didn't have to cut it so close.

After seeing Malachi Corley blow a TD for the Jets against the Texans that way a couple Thursdays ago, I definitely noticed. 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

If Barkley misses time this year, they would elevate Davis but Gainwell would be the starter and Shipley is likely the #2.  If Shipley can learn to pass pro, he’s Gainwell’s replacement and was drafted to be that. 

Yes, that's how they'd rearrange the chairs.  But the Titanic would still be going down if they don't create a completely different game plan.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Buckhalter would have been a #1 RB if not for the injuries. 

True.  But he was also always behind Duce and then Westbrook.  That's what you want in your backup RB... a guy who you find in the mid-rounds and can push for a starting spot later.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just my personal opinion but I wouldn't point to last nights game to make a case of Hurts playing well. It was arguably his worst game of the season, all things considered. 

I thought he played much better in the second half as did the offense. the issue comes down to when you get into the playoffs and deeper into the playoffs against better teams, you are playing a dangerous game by just not being all that great for an entire half or quarter and a half. It’s a long enough stretch against better opponents that it might just be the difference in the game. I’d really like to see us just start off fast the next two weeks. Frankly against the ravens i think we are going to need too. Don’t want to fall too far behind where they can just pound Henry in the second half and wear down on your defense.