4 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

@just relax

what was the scheme change that opened up the run game in the second half?

they mentioned we trapped a few times. Seems like we went away from the zone runs and started pulling guys alot?

They started using the trap and wham plays with Gainwell...I believe end of 3rd or start of the 4th. They couldn't adjust, their D line went from looking pretty good to being moved all over the place. Then Barkley "cribbed" a couple lmao.

 

Cribbed is my new favorite football slang BTW. 

 

29 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Speaking of that last Barkley touchdown, was anyone else disturbed or worried that he let go of the ball before he crossed the goal line? Yes, it was a legit score but he didn't have to cut it so close.

I had a brief half second pause when I saw that but he was pretty deep into the EZ. He also did a weird overhand cradle backward toss that's hard to explain that made it look off. 

23 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Last night was a really solid win that should give everyone a reason to be optimistic, but it was maybe the 4th decent team we've faced, and their QB was a bit dinged up to boot. Previously, we had lost to both the falcons and bucs, and beat the bengals. But outside of that, it's been a fairly soft schedule so while it's true that this team is certainly legit, the question is how we'll stack up against other legit teams, especially the ones we might have to square off against in the playoffs. Looking ahead, I see us maybe losing 2 more games, 3 at the most, which puts us near the top of the playoff seeding, perhaps on the bubble of getting that first round bye. 

Um...the Packers aren't decent?

54 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Our schedule for the rest of the year just got a lot easier.

The Steelers are pretty equal to the Commanders, whom we handled with ease. The Rams might present a challenge, but we get some extra rest before facing them and they have to travel across the country on Sunday. The Panthers, Giants and Cowboys are on life support.

So the only game that is a reasonable challenge is the Ravens.

It should be an interesting battle for the number one seed.

Don’t underestimate the Steelers D. They will be a challenge.  So will the Commies at home.  Rams are a long road trip.  

4 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Barkley is not a Fungible good

Of course not, but you can get a high quality RB as a backup who, in a few years, can be a pro bowler even if he’s not all-world.

2 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

The offensive approach is clearly to feel out the defense in the first quarter and then adjust.  I'm pleased with their adjustments but boy it would be nice to cut out the stupidity and start getting early points. 

This team is a nightmare when theyre ahead.  The pass rush becomes better, the secondary can play controlled and start hunting turnovers, and the offense just can't be stopped--theres too many weapons.

I too am pleased with the adjustments.  This is clearly a team that can come from behind and win, but even better would be to race out to early leads and eliminate any doubt about the game right from the get go.

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Of course not, but you can get a high quality RB as a backup who, in a few years, can be a pro bowler even if he’s not all-world.

Problem is if they are good you have to pay them after yr3. You can give them 1yr to develop but not 2 or the roi on the pick (cap vs return) doesnt really work out

2 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Nolan Smith is kinda turning into a young Brandon Graham situation. Probably not the best value pick at the time, but since he’s here he’s a good asset to the rotation. BG is our Trent Cole and Bryce Huff is our Jason Babin.

Hopefully he continues to follow the BG mold and eventually becomes a longtime starter.

I think of Huff as our Jason Babin.

54 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Losing BG will be unfortunate, but even good things must come to an end.  However, when you look forward to the 2025 Draft what positions other than Edge rusher need attention?

QB1 and QB2 are covered with Hurts and McKee
RB2 is a need, but certainly not before Edge
WR is solid
TE is solid
The O-Line has Fred Johnson and Steens as backups behind five very solid starters.  A Day 3 developmental Stoutland project is a possiblity
Edge is the clear #1 and probably #2 need.  Howie could use both Round 1 and Round 2 on Edge, just as he did for CB this Draft
DT is solid
ILB is solid if Howie extends Baun (who by the way zoomed up to 2nd in the NFL for tackles last night)
CB has Mitchell, Rogers, and DeJean (assuming Rogers gets extended) and probably one more year of Slay
Safety is solid

Howie's eyes are clearly on Edge ... without any distractions. And Parsons isn't out of the realm of possibility as a future Eagles Edge.
 

Fred is a free agent.  Take a look at the free agents next year.  Now some of their replacements are already on the roster but their backups are then needed. But 2025 is a draft and extend year.  

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I thought he played much better in the second half as did the offense. the issue comes down to when you get into the playoffs and deeper into the playoffs against better teams, you are playing a dangerous game by just not being all that great for an entire half or quarter and a half. It’s a long enough stretch against better opponents that it might just be the difference in the game. I’d really like to see us just start off fast the next two weeks. Frankly against the ravens i think we are going to need too. Don’t want to fall too far behind where they can just pound Henry in the second half and wear down on your defense. 

What better teams? The Lions? The Packers? The . . .

Last time Hurts was on the big stage he looked pretty good, this time he'll have a defense with a chance to slow down a QB like Mahomes.

Right now I think Hurts is playing conservatively to avoid turnovers, with the running game and defense, he doesn't have to win games with his arm.

48 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Did you know dalvin cook’s middle name is James. And James cook’s middle name is dalvin 

Did you know that your lap goes away when you stand up?

1 hour ago, RLC said:

If you want to know why the run game was iffy in the 1st half, the Jurgens/Becton duo had a lot of issues. More so Becton than Jurgens, but they would both double a player and not block the 2nd player who would make a clean-up tackle. Rough back to back games IMO for both guys.

I saw the same.  I noticed one play, they both went to double team, and then both peeled off to go to the 2nd level.  The DT tackled Barkley for no gain and it would have been a huge run.

44 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Speaking of that last Barkley touchdown, was anyone else disturbed or worried that he let go of the ball before he crossed the goal line? Yes, it was a legit score but he didn't have to cut it so close.

It wasn't Desean Jackson.   On TV it was clear he was in first.   At the stadium, I can see why it would concern you.

49 minutes ago, mattwill said:

All that was true until the last Washington drive.  Things got a little loose on that drive.  They need to play the same way from Kickoff to final whistle.

They were letting them burn clock and taking away the deep play.

52 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I think you could swap him with most bench rbs in the league and never notice. What exactly is he good at?

Watch Gainwell in Pass Pro and then look at most bench RBs, including Shipley at this point. Gainwell gets every bit of what is blocked.  That’s vision and burst. 

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's good to see him doing that.   It isn't worthy of a top 16 pick, but its very valuable.

I'm not sure that I agree with you regarding being worthy of a top 16 pick.  The whole is the sum of its parts and he is a game changing part.  Stopping the run early forces the opposing team to become one dimensional.  The value of that is immeasurable.

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

They were letting them burn clock and taking away the deep play.

I agree that is what they were doing, and it was different from what they had done during the rest of the game.  I see no reason to change from what they had been successfully doing throughout the rest of the game.  Why change?

28 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Briefly, but I was more shocked that he still had gas to circle back and do a full sprint back to the sideline and down towards the bench on what was somewhere in the ballpark of his 25th touch.

He's not like the rest of us.

26 minutes ago, austinfan said:

What better teams? The Lions? The Packers? The . . .

Last time Hurts was on the big stage he looked pretty good, this time he'll have a defense with a chance to slow down a QB like Mahomes.

Right now I think Hurts is playing conservatively to avoid turnovers, with the running game and defense, he doesn't have to win games with his arm.

Lions are a good team. They are 8-1 for a reason. Bills. Ravens. Chiefs. All those teams. Even teams like the niners who are getting healthier are a problem if you are scoring 3 points in a first half or turning it over 2 times in a first half. 

I would add on go back to the 2009 NFC championship game. The Eagles did not play well for the first half of that game. Granted their defense didn’t play well either. But it was enough to cost them a playoff game, against a team that many considered inferior heading into that game. In a playoff scenario with even more pressure, you don’t want to go a half playing mediocre to bad on offense and just hoping your defense can keep you in it against a team like the lions or ravens than can have a snowball become an avalanche very fast offensively.

add on, you might not be at home either. I’d also argue a team like the Lions is much better than the commanders. They have a better offensive line. They have better running backs. They have better wide receivers. Before the last week I would say Goff was playing like at an extremely high level. Yes they struggled against the Texans but they were on the road and yet still scored 26. I would say the same thing for the Lions if they were going to play the Eagles. If you’re gonna be lackluster for an entire half offensively and hope your defense can keep you in it, it’s a recipe that can get you beat

i’d also put this out there the last three games they scored two touchdowns in the first quarter. You on the surface you say that’s pretty good. and it’s good they capitalized on the turnovers. But then when you look closer at it, Cooper Rush fumble the snap (eagles really didn’t do anything except recover it) which I don’t think you should just bank on that happening. We got it inside the red zone. Jags fumbled punt in the red zone. I’m glad they capitalized on those turnovers, but I shouldn’t expect them to always get a turnover as the only way that they’re capable of scoring a touchdown in the first quarter. They need to be better to start games.

 

35 minutes ago, paco said:

Career wise he's in the full "F it" stage of his career.  And I'm here for it.

I still love Al Michaels, but I was getting stressed when we were up 16 with the commies driving for a TD.  I was still thinking we had a chance to blow it.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

I agree that is what they were doing, and it was different from what they had done during the rest of the game.  I see no reason to change from what they had been successfully doing throughout the rest of the game.  Why change?

Letting them have to dink and dunk down the field you mean? Just playing prevent for the sake of playing prevent I guess.

On a different note, I can't remember the last time I was this Fing pumped up watching our defense. So much young talent that should only get better. With the idea that Slay is gone next year, I'd really like to see them lock up Rodgers and then Baun of course.

 

2 hours ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Wholeheartedly disagree.  Jordan Davis does a lot of stuff that doesn't show up on a stat sheet.  Instead, it shows up as guys like Baun and Nakobe Dean being able to get free because Jordan Davis occupies so much space.  That's valueable.

I agree 100%

15 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Don’t underestimate the Steelers D. They will be a challenge.  So will the Commies at home.  Rams are a long road trip.  

My point was that, had we lost or had the game been a lot closer than it was last night, then the games you highlighted would all be a lot tougher than they now appear to be.