43 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

To the detriment of the team, especially in his reprise.  The second year he was all about sacks and he ignored any type of run lane responsibility entirely, and teams took major advantage of that time and time again.   He was straight garbage.

Just like his dad, Washburn…waste of oxygen.  I still can’t believe they scapegoated Juan only to fire Washburn a few weeks later.  Low point for the franchise to do Juan so dirty.  

41 minutes ago, just relax said:

He does indeed. I watched that video when you first posted it. Give the rusher his chest and the arms lift up. If you look at Becton in that video he has his inside foot planted square and flat like Lane. That’s got to be Stoutland. Between his coaching and Lane’s mentoring, we’re only beginning to see the best of Becton. 

I do love great OL play.

That was a cool video by Kollman and hes a good football youtuber. It was neat to hear him say that most of the knowledge he dropped in that vid came from his brief time at Lane's camp. That he learned more in that time at Lane's camp than in all of his years as a scout or whatever he is.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would imagine they take a kid in the 3rd to 5th round that they like. I think tight end is the position where they go 2-3rd round. I don’t think they use a first round pick on one. And we’ve gone into this conversation in the past about first round tight ends, so I’m not gonna go into that. But I could see them if one falls in the second round that they take him. First round feels like pass rusher or OT. Frankly since they’re in a championship window and they’re gonna be picking at the end of the first round, I wouldn’t be shocked if they trade down and acquire more assets in 2025 and future drafts 

I think we could see them take a DE & a DT in first 3 rounds of this draft since we’re set to lose Milton, Sweat, and BG. Obviously that can change if either Milton or Sweat are brought back but I think they’ll be out of our price range & I’d much rather that money go to Baun. 
 

As of right now I think the first 3 rounds the most likely positions drafted are OT, DE, DT, TE. I think DB is a sneaky possibility also. Blankenship isn’t signed beyond 2025 & it’s not like CJGJ is playing as if he’s irreplaceable. So safety is a possibility. CB also, I know Q & DeJean are amazing so far. But Slay is set to be done soon, Rodgers is a FA after this year, & Ringo is still a ?….if Eagles see a CB they really like to pair with Q/Dejean to create a talented young cheap secondary, I think it makes sense.  

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just my personal opinion but I wouldn't point to last nights game to make a case of Hurts playing well. It was arguably his worst game of the season, all things considered. 

I think he had worse games this year. And what I said wasn't that he played great, but that he did certain specific things that people say he never does. Had he played better last night (and Jake made FGs and/or the FGs weren't necessary because of TDs) they would have scored more points in the 1st half and had the game locked down early.

15 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I think he had worse games this year. And what I said wasn't that he played great, but that he did certain specific things that people say he never does. Had he played better last night (and Jake made FGs and/or the FGs weren't necessary because of TDs) they would have scored more points in the 1st half and had the game locked down early.

Hurts was a bit off last night, but no one can say he’s not a gutsy gamer.  For all of his inconsistency in the passing game, he is at least that.  I’m also fairly certain that he had a concussion.  I think he told someone later that he ‘beat’ the concussion test

53 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Rewatching it i still think we are giving the calcaterra fumble recovery enough emphasis.

was key to the win

Also rewatching, right before that... the 4th down stop when the Washingteam decided to pull a Sirianni was equally huge.   They should have gone for the FG to get the lead and put the pressure back on the Eagles' O.  Very different game with the score being up 2 versus down 1 for the Eagles.  

7 games left, what's our record over the next 7 games? 7-0? 6-1? 5-2? Where do you all see us at when the final whistle blows on January 5th?

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes.  But, we are measuring individual value.   Value of the back end > value of run clogging NT.  Value of DT that can stop the run and rush the passer > value of run clogging NT.

In other words, of the list of players mentioned (not CJGJ) Davis is at the end of that list.  Carter, Mitchell, DeJean, even Ghost and Rodgers are higher value players than Davis.  That is not to say that what he provides isn't valuable, it is.  But it is lower value than the others mentioned, and that's why he wasn't worth the pick they used on him over players like McDuffie and Hamilton.  It is what it is now, but again, replacing what he provides is easier to find than what the others provide.   So, they can't overvalue him again moving forward and overpay for a one dimensional part time player.   When drafted, I had the hope that he could be both a run stuffer and a guy to collapse the pocket.  He's proven that he's only one part of that, not both.  

This is a bit of a hindsight take.

At the time of the pick, Davis was a sure fire run stuffer, but with unicorn level measurables which suggested he might develop into a pass rusher.

That’s the risk you take to try to obtain an all world player. I loved the risk/reward at the time and would make a similar pick again in the future. It was a high floor, limitless ceiling pick. Sometimes you don’t get the infinite potential to materialize, but given the low risk, it was a no brainer.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Fran says he thought scheme was a bigger issue in the game than Hurts with the offense. He watched every play and said Hurts missed a few, but a bunch of plays they tried to get big plays down field and they just didn't give Hurts elsewhere to go with the ball and other plays they didn't run anything elaborate to try to get guys open and there really wasn't anywhere to go with the ball on many of these plays.

From what I remember watching live, there were two plays where he missed open receivers (one which would've been an easy TD to Goedert) but outside of those, I don't remember anything else super obvious. 

8 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

7 games left, what's our record over the next 7 games? 7-0? 6-1? 5-2? Where do you all see us at when the final whistle blows on January 5th?

They really should finish with 13 or 14 wins

11 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

7 games left, what's our record over the next 7 games? 7-0? 6-1? 5-2? Where do you all see us at when the final whistle blows on January 5th?

14-3 seems fairly easily attainable. 

14 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

7 games left, what's our record over the next 7 games? 7-0? 6-1? 5-2? Where do you all see us at when the final whistle blows on January 5th?

5-2 rest of the way…13-4 total…likely the 2 seed

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

They really should finish with 13 or 14 wins

 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

14-3 seems fairly easily attainable. 

You never know what happens, especially with three divisional games in the final 3 games and especially if the #1 and/or #2 seeds are locked in (either by us or someone else). I can't follow the entire league as closely as I used to, but looking at the next 7 games and not taking into account how hard divisional games can be, if we were to beat Baltimore, 7-0 might not be too difficult to envision. But having watched A LOT of Eagles games in my lifetime, I know better than to bank on something like that until after it's in the books.

Once it's in the books, THEN I'll go back and edit my posts to appear that I was confident in it all along...   

30 minutes ago, McMVP said:

Hurts was a bit off last night, but no one can say he’s not a gutsy gamer.  For all of his inconsistency in the passing game, he is at least that.  I’m also fairly certain that he had a concussion.  I think he told someone later that he ‘beat’ the concussion test

That was an odd word choice he used

4 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Last I read was Dallas was in no hurry to extend him and Parsons was willing to wait next year

It'd be crazy if Dallas let him walk

Almost as crazy as the Giants letting Barkley walk… 

18 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

From what I remember watching live, there were two plays where he missed open receivers (one which would've been an easy TD to Goedert) but outside of those, I don't remember anything else super obvious. 

Was this due to play design then?  Seemed like Washington’s game plan was to load the box and force throws.

37 minutes ago, McMVP said:

Hurts was a bit off last night, but no one can say he’s not a gutsy gamer.  For all of his inconsistency in the passing game, he is at least that.  I’m also fairly certain that he had a concussion.  I think he told someone later that he ‘beat’ the concussion test

I think he shakes off mistakes really well and bounces back. He will have a really awful series and then shake himself out of it. He also does well in pressure toward the end of games a lot. I think we just have to accept certain things with him, but as long as he gets it together and wins then it can work out. But, doing that against the toughest teams and in the playoffs will show us truly. Excited to see how he does vs the Rams and Ravens and then the playoffs.

52 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I think he had worse games this year. And what I said wasn't that he played great, but that he did certain specific things that people say he never does. Had he played better last night (and Jake made FGs and/or the FGs weren't necessary because of TDs) they would have scored more points in the 1st half and had the game locked down early.

He was pretty bad in the 1st half, but was quietly good in the 2nd.  He has def had worse games…especially the Giants game.  Someone nailed it earlier…it was a C+/B- game for him. 

 What’s most frustrating is the inability to adjust more times than not till half time hits with this team.  It’s thematic through 80-90% of Siri’s tenure here.  That Saquon guy and our OL really take over games when they need to thankfully.  

I normally prefer Sunday 1 PM games for us, but this was a good week to have a TNF game. Both the Ravens/Steelers at 1 and Chiefs/Bills at 4 are bangers.

I think the coaches need to closely evaluate what Hurts is doing in his pregame warmup.  He resembles a starting pitcher who doesn't throw any warmup pitches and takes 3-4 innings to find the strike zone.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/could-saquon-barkley-make-a-late-mvp-run

Objectively, it is hard to say any one player has had a better season than Barkley.  He probably won't get it but is worthy of consideration 

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Obviously.  But, we are discussing how much Davis is worth in a second contract to this team... so his specific contributions would be relevant.  He's valuable.  No one is denying that.  The questions that remain are: how valuable is he, and what do you pay for someone who provides what he provides?

I believe they overpaid for him in the draft.  They misread what his production would be in the NFL.  He's far from a bust, but unworthy of the selection made for him, including a trade up.  Had he been a 3rd round pick, I don't think anyone would be worried about him for the future and his contract demands.  His 5th year option would put him at about $11.4M in 2026.  Is he worth that?  Should they look to extend him before then?  Should they let him test the free agency waters and keep an eye on his value to look to bring him back?  

I don’t look at any player in a vacuum.  Every player has an impact on the productivity of the players around him.  Davis makes both the ILBs more effective.  I would argue that he makes Carter better, but not as much as he makes the ILBs better.

No I wouldn’t let him get to Free Agency.

43 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Was this due to play design then?  Seemed like Washington’s game plan was to load the box and force throws.

Not sure, I haven't rewatched any of it yet, but I was double pissed about that miss to Goedert because I have him in fantasy and we ended up having to settle for a FG.

9 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/could-saquon-barkley-make-a-late-mvp-run

Objectively, it is hard to say any one player has had a better season than Barkley.  He probably won't get it but is worthy of consideration 

Same issue with CMac last year, Lamar would need to get hurt or fall off a cliff.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

This is a bit of a hindsight take.

At the time of the pick, Davis was a sure fire run stuffer, but with unicorn level measurables which suggested he might develop into a pass rusher.

That’s the risk you take to try to obtain an all world player. I loved the risk/reward at the time and would make a similar pick again in the future. It was a high floor, limitless ceiling pick. Sometimes you don’t get the infinite potential to materialize, but given the low risk, it was a no brainer.

I wouldn’t say a first round pick is ever "low risk” but I get it. He was like 350 and ran a 4.6. No one questioned the pick at the time but it is disappointing that he’s no more valuable than Linval Joseph