23 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

They wouldn't even put him on the field for the 4th and 1 where CJGJ made the tackle.  That was the biggest play of the game to that point and their 360+ pound run stuffer was sitting on the bench.  

I wouldn't be surprised if Davis puts in effort towards his conditioning.  He may just be one of those guys where his huge body will only allow so much.  Once again it shows you shouldn't draft a part-time college player high in the draft.

Not only that but trade 4 picks to get him and pass on a safety who is now considered one of the best in the NFL. Howie's drafting is abysmal. 

23 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Howie does a great job with the cap, but he’s an absolute draft pendulum.

We go with a rash of under explosive high motor edges, culminating with Derek Barnett, who ran a 40 and had workout numbers that were truly woefully inadequate for the position.

Then we draft Davis and Smith solely for their 40’s and workouts.

Same parallels and pendulum drafting wideouts.

He will occasionally get it right and does a nice job moving about the draft, but Howie is to drafting what Jalen Hurts is to passing.  It’s not their natural strong suit, lots of evidence showing their inadequacies, and every time they get it right it just stands out so much because we aren’t particularly used to it.

Sometimes he hasnt gotten it wrong with the player. But with the player fit. And that seems to be an issue with the organization consistently being out of sync by constant coach/scheme changes. We keep ending up with players who arent favored by the coaching staff in free agency, and arent fits for our system via the draft.

Barnett is a good example. He didnt have many strengths as a prospect, but one attribute he was said to have was fantastic ankle flexibility. You take him, and put him in the 2 gap role where he has to play the run on the way to the QB, which means he isnt allowed to just fly around the corner anymore. Take that away from him, now youve taken away his ability to use his one great attribute.

He goes to Houston, and suddenly looks like an awesome pass rusher for the first time in his career. And it happened there for him immediately.

 

I already just talked about how Huff is not a fit for the way they are requiring him to play.

 

7 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Or screw it, let's see what Jalyx Hunt has. Bring back Patrick Johnson as well. At least we'll see effort.

On 1st down, roll with Davis (he's the only nose tackle), Carter, Williams, Ojomo and either Huff/Hunt/Sweat/BG. Gannon used a lot of the 5 down looks to stop the run and it worked. We're getting gashed while sitting in nickel all day.

EDIT: Hell, put Booker out there and have Williams and Ojomo pay the edge.

Gonna have to trade someone to the Giants for Johnson. Of all the players on the team to release, he's the guy? One of the top performing special teams players over the last 3 years at a position you're weakest at. He's not making or breaking this season but again, just shows poor roster management.

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Gonna have to trade someone to the Giants for Johnson. Of all the players on the team to release, he's the guy? One of the top performing special teams players over the last 3 years at a position you're weakest at. He's not making or breaking this season but again, just shows poor roster management.

a different HC, DC, and QB we would be 2-0 and the best team in the league with this roster and nobody would be nitpicking a nobody whos never gonna be a good NFL player to complain about poor roster management. Having the 2nd best GM rather than the best GM in the league is pretty much the last on the list of issues.

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

At least my emotional hedge betting is making money. Won $50 on the parlay of the Phillies and eagles losing. 

The Mush

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

a different HC, DC, and QB we would be 2-0 and the best team in the league with this roster and nobody would be nitpicking a nobody whos never gonna be a good NFL player to complain about poor roster management. Having the 2nd best GM rather than the best GM in the league is pretty much the last on the list of issues.

I think bottom of the roster special teams players are vital to a successful team. Chris Maragos, Bryan Braman, Rashard Cook, Colt Anderson. Guys like that stick around for years and help build good teams and keep good culture. Patrick Johnson had a role on this team and did it well. 

Sometimes, there's just not room for a guy anymore like McPhearson and Jobe but other times, a bad move is made, as was the case with Johnson. 

 

 

If you didn't hate Huff enough, here you go, try this one.

 

 

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I think bottom of the roster special teams players are vital to a successful team. Chris Maragos, Bryan Braman, Rashard Cook, Colt Anderson. Guys like that stick around for years and help build good teams and keep good culture. Patrick Johnson had a role on this team and did it well. 

Sometimes, there's just not room for a guy anymore like McPhearson and Jobe but other times, a bad move is made, as was the case with Johnson. 

 

 

they were the top 5 in special teams snaps. Not in performance. 

I don't hate Huff, unless he does something totally egregious I could never come to dislike him. My ire if he fails will always go to Howie for trading their best defensive player to sign him. I've never wavered that I thought it was an asinine decision and I put that on Howie. He gave away a known for a situational pass rusher unknown. This falls on him.

As for Jordan Davis, I don't understand how they allow him to come into this season this out of shape. Can't they hire nutritionists or personal trainers to live with the guy all summer? Or has the NFL gone woke and adopted the "All body sizes are healthy" insanity when they adopted the activist race stuff and that would be considered "fat shaming"?

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

If you didn't hate Huff enough, here you go, try this one.

 

 

I'd rather have Rudy on the field.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Those guys are all 2 gapping to watch for run first. They arent allowed to just pin their ears back and go.

Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter did this at Georgia when that defense was so en vogue 2-3 years ago. Its why Georgia freak DL didnt have a ton of sack numbers, and why they arent getting them in philly either. Sweat did it at FSU as well.

It makes 0 sense for Huff, an undersized speed rusher to have to engage a blocker first rather than use his truly elite first step as a weapon. This defense doesnt put guys in position to make plays.

Surprised that they haven’t tried a 3 DL alignment with Huff or Sweat, this would allow the right personnel for 2 gapping and lessen the run responsibility for the pass rush specialist. Not quite a 5-1 penny front, but similar.

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't hate Huff, unless he does something totally egregious I could never come to dislike him. My ire if he fails will always go to Howie for trading their best defensive player to sign him. I've never wavered that I thought it was an asinine decision and I put that on Howie. He gave away a known for a situational pass rusher unknown. This falls on him.

As for Jordan Davis, I don't understand how they allow him to come into this season this out of shape. Can't they hire nutritionists or personal trainers to live with the guy all summer? Or has the NFL gone woke and adopted the "All body sizes are healthy" insanity when they adopted the activist race stuff and that would be considered "fat shaming"?

I disagreed with you and really liked the Huff signing with Reddick trade.  You were definitely off that train from day 1.

I don’t watch much non eagles football anymore.  I didn’t watch Huff play last year.  But all accounts pegged him as a very situationally disruptive guy with outstanding burst who may or may not have what it takes for full time snaps.

I have to imagine that is still in him.  The fact that he looks like a practice squad player through 2 games…no, a better analogy is an average off ball LB pretending to be an edge rusher and engage OTs…suggests to me that he’s either being used very wrong or playing too many snaps or both.

And, tragically/interestingly, Huff and Smith look indistinguishable from each other out there.  Practically the same player.  

Admittedly I’m no special teams guru, but is Patrick Johnson even all that good on special teams? He plays a lot of snaps, which would indicate some level of competency, but I don’t recall him being all that notable out there. 

31 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

If you didn't hate Huff enough, here you go, try this one.

 

 

Anytime I focus on just him he ends up on the ground.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t watch much non eagles football anymore.  I didn’t watch Huff play last year.  But all accounts pegged him as a very situationally disruptive guy with outstanding burst who may or may not have what it takes for full time snaps.

I have to imagine that is still in him.  The fact that he looks like a practice squad player through 2 games…no, a better analogy is an average off ball LB pretending to be an edge rusher and engage OTs…suggests to me that he’s either being used very wrong or playing too many snaps or both.

And, tragically/interestingly, Huff and Smith look indistinguishable from each other out there.  Practically the same player.  

Both stink right now, but Smith can play the run. That’s a sizable difference. 

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

At least my emotional hedge betting is making money. Won $50 on the parlay of the Phillies and eagles losing. 

I do the same thing sometimes, mainly in the playoffs. I tell my friends it’s called the Philly Hedge. I lost some money during the 2017 playoff run and couldn’t have been happier. 

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I do the same thing sometimes, mainly in the playoffs. I tell my friends it’s called the Philly Hedge. I lost some money during the 2017 playoff run and couldn’t have been happier. 

My friend and I both do it. I’m still upset when they lose, but at least I got something out of them losing. I didn’t just get being frustrated or upset out of it. I get rewarded with some extra spending cash 

44 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

If you didn't hate Huff enough, here you go, try this one.

 

 

Someone last night on Twitter showed and broke down every sack he had last year for the Jets. something like six or seven of the 10 came against back up offensive tackles. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Howie does a great job with the cap, but he’s an absolute draft pendulum.

We go with a rash of under explosive high motor edges, culminating with Derek Barnett, who ran a 40 and had workout numbers that were truly woefully inadequate for the position.

Then we draft Davis and Smith solely for their 40’s and workouts.

Same parallels and pendulum drafting wideouts.

He will occasionally get it right and does a nice job moving about the draft, but Howie is to drafting what Jalen Hurts is to passing.  It’s not their natural strong suit, lots of evidence showing their inadequacies, and every time they get it right it just stands out so much because we aren’t particularly used to it.

Does getting contracts done before the market changes really mean he's great or just early?

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Does getting contracts done before the market changes really mean he's great or just early?

great.

Seen Djax on another podcast talking about Chip Kelly.

Dude has to let it go.  It's been over 10 years now.

Phils win.  Much needed vibes change.

First round bye magic number is 7.  

49 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Admittedly I’m no special teams guru, but is Patrick Johnson even all that good on special teams? He plays a lot of snaps, which would indicate some level of competency, but I don’t recall him being all that notable out there. 

It's like Crash Davis' home run record.  Notable, but is it really impressive?