1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

And are they still improving? No. They have regressed this year outside of Bohm. We are definitely going to disagree on Marsh. All of this has been discussed through the year in the Phillies thread.

Point is players drafted don't improve with the Eagles coaching staff outside of OL or Smith.

Yes.  Sanchez is massively better than he was last year.  Leaps and bounds.   Hitting a wall is far different from regression.

Suarez, also better than he was last year.  Again, by leaps and bounds.   He has struggled since the line drive to his hand, which I put towards a physical/mental issue much more than him having regressed.

 

Your point regarding the Eagles is unassailable.  Extending that to the Phillies, I'll agree to disagree.  

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

This has me worried.  They seem to be struggling with coming up with one game plan in a week.   Can they handle two?  

let’s go with the game plan that doesn’t involve screens to covey in the red zone. 

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Hard to know whether to cry or laugh tbh

lol

6 minutes ago, B3 said:

let’s go with the game plan that doesn’t involve screens to covey in the red zone. 

If I have to watch one more screen with 160 lb DeVonta lead blocking I don’t think I can handle it. I believe he got rolled up on last season doing it too. 

26 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I'm all for running him into the ground, just saying that's basically what they are doing already. They really aren't limiting him at all. It's only two games so a lot can change in the meantime.

He's on the same pace as Demarco Murrays last Cowboys year when they ran him into the ground with 392 carries and then stunk when he came here. Which is a little bit concerning since you kinda hope he can play next year too. History shows RB's that surpass 350+ carries usually have awful following seasons. 

Yup.   Exactly what I was thinking.  Murray did rebound a year after that and got his ypc average back up to 4.4 in Tennessee after his horrific year here.  That was such a quagmire year though... its hard to know exactly what the issue was.  But, I think it definitely ended his career sooner rather than later, then again... RBs have a very short shelf life in general.  Guys like Adrian Peterson who can maintain it for years are few and far between.  That said, I think Barkley matches Peterson more as a unicorn than Murray ever did.  

Incidentally, Peterson had just over 2000 carries by the end of the season he was 28.   Barkley is currently 27, with just over 1250 carries.  If he gets ~400 carries the next two years he'd basically match Peterson's work load for his age.  Peterson tore his ACL the following year and was a monster for one more year after that miraculous return.  Then he basically fell off the map after 30.  Barkley has dealt with one ACL and some nagging injuries over his career.  But, behind this OL, I don't think he'll take the same level of beating as he did in NY.   In NY he was getting hit by DL far more.  Here he should be getting hit by LBs and DBs more frequently.  And I think there's a dramatic difference in the long term impacts of those hits.  

 

BUT, I think Barkley can maintain this for two years.  Derrick Henry from age 25 to 29, he lead the league in rush attempts 4 times out of 5 seasons.  His rushes were: 303, 378, 219, 349, and 280.   He led the league in all but the middle year.  I don't expect Barkley to actually hit 400 or super close either year.   I think he likely ends up topping out at about 350.  I'm not at all worried about his receiving touches, because again, most of those will be ending with him running OOB or dealing with a DB.  Not the massive load on his body.   

 

All that said though... if the season starts to tank, then they need to lessen his load and use Shipley and Gainmeh more often.

28 minutes ago, EagleMatt said:

Why does Hurts rarely target the easy wide open check downs? 

Dude should be studying Brady tapes

You don't get rushing yards that way, more charitably sometimes the receivers drop the ball.

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

lol

Wonder if he looked at what teams would do early on? Bet they'd all kick the FG unlike him

Sirianni sounds clueless with this analytics answer. You use them or you don't, pick one. You don't make these decisions based off gut feels. 

1 minute ago, rrfierce said:

Wonder if he looked at what teams would do early on? Bet they'd all kick the FG unlike him

Not Doug Pederson 

This team isn’t beating the Saints with no AJ 🤣

Look at the scrubs WRs with Wilson and Covey

Welcome to 1-2 and the Siri hot as f seat 

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Sirianni sounds clueless with this analytics answer. You use them or you don't, pick one. You don't make these decisions based off gut feels. 

I disagree with it to an extent.  I think there's a bit of an art to it.   Analytics is just pure numbers, without context to the game situation.  The context of the middle of a back and forth game, maybe you lean more to analytics.  But, for me... on the first drive of the game, you come away with points anytime you can, ESPECIALLY when the analytics show such a minor advantage for going for it.  In that case, the psychological impact of scoring vs. not scoring is more important than the slim margin of advantage.  

AM too disgusted with the defense and the HC right now to have anything to say, intelligent or otherwise. Will watch the NO game with low expectations. The I'll see. Maybe I'll take up knitting.

 

35 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes.  Sanchez is massively better than he was last year.  Leaps and bounds.   Hitting a wall is far different from regression.

Suarez, also better than he was last year.  Again, by leaps and bounds.   He has struggled since the line drive to his hand, which I put towards a physical/mental issue much more than him having regressed.

 

Your point regarding the Eagles is unassailable.  Extending that to the Phillies, I'll agree to disagree.  

Yeah...Suarez looks like he needs to be in the pen. The others in the Phillies thread would have more to say on that I'm sure. 

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I disagree with it to an extent.  I think there's a bit of an art to it.   Analytics is just pure numbers, without context to the game situation.  The context of the middle of a back and forth game, maybe you lean more to analytics.  But, for me... on the first drive of the game, you come away with points anytime you can, ESPECIALLY when the analytics show such a minor advantage for going for it.  In that case, the psychological impact of scoring vs. not scoring is more important than the slim margin of advantage.  

Yes, there is some nuance with analytics. My issue is he is just all over the map and there is never any consistency. He goes for it when it's a coin flip and then when it screams major advantage he goes against it. 

He barely has a job and he can't even do it right. And I doubt it's what Howie or Lurie want since they are heavy into analytics. 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Sirianni sounds clueless with this analytics answer. You use them or you don't, pick one. You don't make these decisions based off gut feels. 

I’m OK with using analytics as a guide  and not being a slave to whatever the spreadsheet says. Upon further reflection, when the pass was incomplete to stop the clock, he absolutely should have gone for it. That also solidifies to me how bad the decision was to pass on third down. Kicking a FG is far more defensible to go up 6 with a minute left instead of 1:40 or whatever. 

13 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Concern level of MLB playoff opponents ranked from teams I'm most concerned about to least

Dbacks
Padres
Brewers
Braves
Mets
Dodgers

 

13 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d love to see the dbacks fall out of the playoffs. Currently they are the 6 seed as the Mets hold the tiebreaker with them. Their schedule is hard the rest of the way. 1 at Colorado, 4 at Milwaukee, 3 vs. sf and 3 vs Sd. Mets is even harder as they got 1. Vs. nats, 4 vs. Phillies, 3 at Braves and 3 at Milwaukee. Braves have the easiest remaining schedule 2 at Reds, 3 at marlins, 3 vs. Mets and 3 vs. royals (chance the royals clinched a playoff spot by that point) 

I want the padres for one reason and one reason only:

Spoiler

 

 

6 minutes ago, just relax said:

AM too disgusted with the defense and the HC right now to have anything to say, intelligent or otherwise. Will watch the NO game with low expectations. The I'll see. Maybe I'll take up knitting.

I have to watch kindergarten soccer during the game. Three weeks ago I was annoyed by that. Today I’m happy to have the excuse to miss a large part of the game. 

24 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

lol

That wasn't the dumb 4th down decision. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

That wasn't the dumb 4th down decision. 

If you pass on 3rd down to try to win it, you have to go for it on 4th down because then you just gave the opponent almost 2 minutes to win it. That's plenty of time for a TD drive and the Falcons would have gone for it on 4th down needing a TD. And the Eagles defense was a turnstile all game.

I was going to do the drive and see the game 

There's no way I'm paying and driving to see an Eagles ass whooping by Saints

As part of dad's "You beat cancer" tour, my mom got them a travel package from (green legion?) to go down and see the game Sunday.  

 

The man's suffered enough  

29 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

lol

i have no issue kicking the FG , if you run the ball on 3rd and 3 keeping the clock going.