Just now, paco said:

As part of dad's "You beat cancer" tour, my mom got him a travel package from (green legion?) to go down and see the game Sunday.  

 

The man's suffered enough  

He's gonna watch cancer on the field on Sunday, that's for sure. In the form of an Eagles defensive line.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Here's a fun thread to start your Wednesday! I think play 8 is the infamous facemask fix for Huff. 

He says his concern level with Carter is extremely low and that with better players around him, he'll be fine. If Carter is this all-world type of player, he should dominate no matter what. Players should be better because of him.

 

 

I'm getting dangerously close to writing off all of the UGA defenders.   

Jordan Davis can't stay on the field.  And when he's out there... most of the time he's invisible, which is hard to believe for a guy his size.  He's made a handful of splash plays over his brief career, but usually its a one off and then he's back to nothing again.  (And I know about the position he plays and the fact that NTs aren't going to look great in the stats... except when the NT is playing well, the stats show that the opposition had a hard time running the ball.  This team's not getting that production.) 

Jalen Carter was supposed to be some generational talent.  Aaron Donald was a generational talent, and even when he had very little around him, he still made splash plays constantly.  We need him to stop having 'promise' and start having production.

Nolan Smith is still lost.  Supposedly he was a very high likelihood for the guy to be drafted earlier had Carter not fallen to the Eagles.  He's playing like he's a 5th round pick... although, by this point, our actual 5th round pick, Trent Cole had already made a mark on the team.

Nakobe Dean... . We still have a hole at LB.  He's no Mufasa.  He's no Jordan Hicks.  He's not even TJ Edwards.

And then there's Ringo.  The guy with so much potential that couldn't be overlooked, yet has, because he's not doing it on the field.  Where's the flash from a guy so raw yet ridiculously athletic?   Nah.  If he had gone to Eastern Tennessee State instead of UGA I don't think anyone would be beating the drum for this guy. 

 

 

There's still time for all of these guys to step up and live up to the hype.  But as of right now, they aren't living up to anything.   Seems the UGA system and having a million 5 star recruits to rotate in and out had much more to do with their success than the individual talents on the field.   That's just what I am seeing from these guys.  Prove me wrong, Bulldogs.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m OK with using analytics as a guide  and not being a slave to whatever the spreadsheet says. Upon further reflection, when the pass was incomplete to stop the clock, he absolutely should have gone for it. That also solidifies to me how bad the decision was to pass on third down. Kicking a FG is far more defensible to go up 6 with a minute left instead of 1:40 or whatever. 

Yea, I agree. I don't mean to follow the analytics no matter what. When there's a slight advantage that's when you take into account the factors analytics don't like game flow, weather, injuries etc. It's these obvious decisions with the analytics screaming GO FOR IT that he doesn't that just drives me nuts. And it just makes it worse when he's aggressive when he doesn't need to. Just have some consistency with these decisions. 

Just now, vaeagle2 said:

i have no issue kicking the FG , if you run the ball on 3rd and 3 keeping the clock going. 

Yes, I would have gone for it regardless, but the only way you kick the FG there is if you run for it on 3rd. Passing and then kicking is absolutely baffling.

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yes, there is some nuance with analytics. My issue is he is just all over the map and there is never any consistency. He goes for it when it's a coin flip and then when it screams major advantage he goes against it. 

He barely has a job and he can't even do it right. And I doubt it's what Howie or Lurie want since they are heavy into analytics. 

Well... I'm fine with putting him on the unemployment rolls.  

14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m OK with using analytics as a guide  and not being a slave to whatever the spreadsheet says. Upon further reflection, when the pass was incomplete to stop the clock, he absolutely should have gone for it. That also solidifies to me how bad the decision was to pass on third down. Kicking a FG is far more defensible to go up 6 with a minute left instead of 1:40 or whatever. 

Maybe the chart got wet and the ink ran.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Man... what is life with no woj bombs?

I wonder who will fill that role?

35 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.   Exactly what I was thinking.  Murray did rebound a year after that and got his ypc average back up to 4.4 in Tennessee after his horrific year here.  That was such a quagmire year though... its hard to know exactly what the issue was.  But, I think it definitely ended his career sooner rather than later, then again... RBs have a very short shelf life in general.  Guys like Adrian Peterson who can maintain it for years are few and far between.  That said, I think Barkley matches Peterson more as a unicorn than Murray ever did.  

Incidentally, Peterson had just over 2000 carries by the end of the season he was 28.   Barkley is currently 27, with just over 1250 carries.  If he gets ~400 carries the next two years he'd basically match Peterson's work load for his age.  Peterson tore his ACL the following year and was a monster for one more year after that miraculous return.  Then he basically fell off the map after 30.  Barkley has dealt with one ACL and some nagging injuries over his career.  But, behind this OL, I don't think he'll take the same level of beating as he did in NY.   In NY he was getting hit by DL far more.  Here he should be getting hit by LBs and DBs more frequently.  And I think there's a dramatic difference in the long term impacts of those hits.  

 

BUT, I think Barkley can maintain this for two years.  Derrick Henry from age 25 to 29, he lead the league in rush attempts 4 times out of 5 seasons.  His rushes were: 303, 378, 219, 349, and 280.   He led the league in all but the middle year.  I don't expect Barkley to actually hit 400 or super close either year.   I think he likely ends up topping out at about 350.  I'm not at all worried about his receiving touches, because again, most of those will be ending with him running OOB or dealing with a DB.  Not the massive load on his body.   

 

All that said though... if the season starts to tank, then they need to lessen his load and use Shipley and Gainmeh more often.

They need to look at Barkley as a two-year contributor. So that means getting everything you can from him this season and next. I get he'll need to check out of the game for rest like he did on Monday after I think he had 3 or 4 positive, good gain plays. But this stuff with putting Gainwell in the red zone is asinine. He's the best player on this offense with AJ out now and you can't run the offense through Hurts throwing the ball (even though they'll continue to do so). If the wheels fall off and they're sitting at 2-6 at the midpoint I get tapering him off for Shipley or whoever. But as long as this team is in contention, they need to run Barkley into the ground and just hope he holds up. Enough of the babying or trying to save him for the latter part of the season. They're going to need significant contributions from him in every game. 

15 minutes ago, paco said:

 

I want the padres for one reason and one reason only:

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How sad a sports town is San Diego, that these 7 dopes are considered their 'Super' fans?    So cringy.  "That's what's in."

14 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

That wasn't the dumb 4th down decision. 

There were multiple dumb decisions.

10 minutes ago, paco said:

As part of dad's "You beat cancer" tour, my mom got them a travel package from (green legion?) to go down and see the game Sunday.  

 

The man's suffered enough  

Hopefully he can just enjoy the trip part.    Congrats to your dad, btw.   Awesome to hear.  

Patriots cut Jalen Reagor following social-media post

After taking to social media to vent his apparent frustrations about his spot on the depth chart, Jalen Reagor is packing his bags in Foxborough, Conor Ryan of The Boston Globe reports.

The Patriots announced on Tuesday that they cut Reagor from the practice squad, shortly after the wide receiver posted an interesting photo on his Instagram story.

The photo, which features a Bugatti sports car parked under a dreary carport, was deleted soon after Reagor posted it. The photo has been used before as an internet meme, often to describe a talented player mired on a bad team or organization (Shohei Ohtani on the Angels might be the apt comparison).

It seems as though the Patriots received Reagor’s message loud and clear, with the team cutting him just a few hours after the photo was posted.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Man... what is life with no woj bombs?

I wonder who will fill that role?

Shams. 

3 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

They need to look at Barkley as a two-year contributor. So that means getting everything you can from him this season and next. I get he'll need to check out of the game for rest like he did on Monday after I think he had 3 or 4 positive, good gain plays. But this stuff with putting Gainwell in the red zone is asinine. He's the best player on this offense with AJ out now and you can't run the offense through Hurts throwing the ball (even though they'll continue to do so). If the wheels fall off and they're sitting at 2-6 at the midpoint I get tapering him off for Shipley or whoever. But as long as this team is in contention, they need to run Barkley into the ground and just hope he holds up. Enough of the babying or trying to save him for the latter part of the season. They're going to need significant contributions from him in every game. 

I don't think that they have been trying to save him.   He's already got a ton of carries and overall touches.

 

Also, no disrespect meant to AJ Brown, but I think that Saquon is the best player on the team even when AJ is healthy.   In terms of talent versus players at his position, I don't think there's a RB out there that can be considered hands down better than Saquon.  And that includes Christian McCaffrey.   Yes, I'm a PSU homer.  But I still think that's a fairly straight take.  Barkley did more with the Giants than any reasonable person could have expected considering their complete trash OL and horrible QB situation during his time there.   Maybe the only RB who could have done more there would have been Barry Sanders in his prime.  A lot of what Barkley did was purely on his own ability.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Shams. 

He's already doing it.  I wonder if there will be a new insider to break news replacing woj.

Sirianni is on the hot seat for questionable calls that backfired in the Eagles’ loss to the Falcons

Nick Sirianni navigated a string of questionable calls that still left Philadelphia’s fourth-year coach guiding the Eagles to the brink of a victory — with a win probability pushing close to 100% in the waning minutes of the fourth quarter, Dan Gelston of The Associated Press reports.

The Eagles held that late lead over the Falcons even though, among just a few head-scratchers out of the playbook, they failed to call a running a play for Saquon Barkley on a stalled opening drive, a week after he scored three touchdowns; and rather than take a chip-shot field goal from Jake Elliott, their fourth-and-4 gamble at the Atlanta 9 in the first quarter failed when Jalen Hurts threw an incomplete pass.

Yes, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore is the play caller — Sirianni accused a reporter of trying to "stir it up” when asked during the postgame about decision making — but blame for the failed efforts falls on the head coach.

It’s a responsibility — and a hot seat — Sirianni has accepted since last season’s second-half collapse raised questions about his job security. His latest mess, a puzzling pass play with under two minutes left in the fourth quarter on third-and-short to Barkley in the flat that he dropped.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Interesting…

I'm confused how we get cap relief from this though. Is the implication that cash relief leads to cap relief?

5 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Here's a fun thread to start your Wednesday! I think play 8 is the infamous facemask fix for Huff. 

He says his concern level with Carter is extremely low and that with better players around him, he'll be fine. If Carter is this all-world type of player, he should dominate no matter what. Players should be better because of him.

 

 

They need to play Smith over Huff and move to 5 man fronts.  People will complain about Davis but I don't think he's the issue on run defense.  My big takeaway is that Vic Fangio is not an upgrade over last season and may be more Billy Davis than Bud Carson.  

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Interesting…

OK -- this is fascinating. I need to get more info on this. 

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't think that they have been trying to save him.   He's already got a ton of carries and overall touches.

 

Also, no disrespect meant to AJ Brown, but I think that Saquon is the best player on the team even when AJ is healthy.   In terms of talent versus players at his position, I don't think there's a RB out there that can be considered hands down better than Saquon.  And that includes Christian McCaffrey.   Yes, I'm a PSU homer.  But I still think that's a fairly straight take.  Barkley did more with the Giants than any reasonable person could have expected considering their complete trash OL and horrible QB situation during his time there.   Maybe the only RB who could have done more there would have been Barry Sanders in his prime.  A lot of what Barkley did was purely on his own ability.

Barkley is probably the best at his position in the League.  AJ plays a more important position.  

10 minutes ago, pangbun said:

Sirianni is on the hot seat for questionable calls that backfired in the Eagles’ loss to the Falcons

Nick Sirianni navigated a string of questionable calls that still left Philadelphia’s fourth-year coach guiding the Eagles to the brink of a victory — with a win probability pushing close to 100% in the waning minutes of the fourth quarter, Dan Gelston of The Associated Press reports.

The Eagles held that late lead over the Falcons even though, among just a few head-scratchers out of the playbook, they failed to call a running a play for Saquon Barkley on a stalled opening drive, a week after he scored three touchdowns; and rather than take a chip-shot field goal from Jake Elliott, their fourth-and-4 gamble at the Atlanta 9 in the first quarter failed when Jalen Hurts threw an incomplete pass.

Yes, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore is the play caller — Sirianni accused a reporter of trying to "stir it up” when asked during the postgame about decision making — but blame for the failed efforts falls on the head coach.

It’s a responsibility — and a hot seat — Sirianni has accepted since last season’s second-half collapse raised questions about his job security. His latest mess, a puzzling pass play with under two minutes left in the fourth quarter on third-and-short to Barkley in the flat that he dropped.

Passing on 3rd down and kicking the FG were the correct calls.  Going for it in the first half was unnecessary and costly.  Not having the team practice hard is coming back to bite them.  The bigger issue is the defense.  

Eagles are allowing A league worst 6.4 yards per carry. Got to try something else maybe give Milton Williams more reps And put Jordan Davis at DE I know it cuts into the rotation, but from there at least he could set an edge going back and watching the game. Smith and Huss was getting abused, and Robinson had free ways to run through. I’d say grab another Tackle for rotation, and try to get pressure from inside. 

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

I'm confused how we get cap relief from this though. Is the implication that cash relief leads to cap relief?

I read it as if insurance pays out to the player for missed time, then those payments are credited back to the cap. So, for instance, if insurance paid the game check for AJ last week, then that $$$ would be added back to the Eagles cap. I am unclear on when these policies pay -- does the player have to miss a certain number of games or the whole season? It seems there were payments made on someone like Deshaun Watson who missed most, but not all, of last season. 

So if Hurts got injured and insurance paid his salary and option bonus, we would get that for 2025 cap purposes it seems. It's a way to protect wasting against using cap space on an injured player.

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

I'm confused how we get cap relief from this though. Is the implication that cash relief leads to cap relief?

Someone would have to get a significant injury first. For accounting purposes the insurance payout is considered a cap credit that rollovers into the next year. To have that opportunity the team has to pay out cash for policies.

That's how I understood it. The tweet is a click baity because there is no cap relief out of thin air if everyone stays healthy all year.