14 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

What do you mean by this?  I’m not going to argue against him…but that Ohtani guy is approaching the same air.

Babe Ruth was hitting more home runs than entire teams. Look at baseball reference and look at all the dark black numbers (led lg), it’s incredible.

Ohtani is awesome no doubt. What Ruth was doing compared to contemporaries is hard to match.

17 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I was worried about OL...still think they could use a tackle if an amazing one is there but the death guys did well

They did real well. We have talent in secondary finally and our WR room is terrific. Need a difference maker on the edge and just more overall talent.

29 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

If you look at what Ruth was doing compared to everyone else … It’s still Ruth

I'd say otherwise, Ruth took advantage of a live ball and an era where pitchers had to adjust from dead ball to live ball, and if you look at the numbers his peers were putting up compared to Ohtani and his peers. And Ohtani was the better pitcher, Ruth stopped pitching once he became a full-time OF. Plus Ruth wasn't a great baserunner.

10 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yup. I always get a chuckle when I hear recent players being referred to as the "greatest" DL ever. Nope. That was Reggie, and it isn't even close. He was Babe Ruth. He was that amazing. And he was "ours" (though not for as long as he should have been.)

truth man.  as far as saying he went all over the line when he played for buddy, of course he did because buddy was smart enough to know that no matter what position he was playing on the line that he was the best at that position.

8 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Babe Ruth was hitting more home runs than entire teams. Look at baseball reference and look at all the dark black numbers (led lg), it’s incredible.

Ohtani is awesome no doubt. What Ruth was doing compared to contemporaries is hard to match.

So greatest of that time is greatest of all time, why?

1 hour ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Every pick should be edge, OL and LB

TE?

23 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I'd say otherwise, Ruth took advantage of a live ball and an era where pitchers had to adjust from dead ball to live ball, and if you look at the numbers his peers were putting up compared to Ohtani and his peers. And Ohtani was the better pitcher, Ruth stopped pitching once he became a full-time OF. Plus Ruth wasn't a great baserunner.

Ruth was playing in a live ball era while entire teams were hitting 20-30 home runs. Ohtani hasn’t pitched much either, Ruth did play OF as well. No DH. 
and again there was no one comparable hitting wise with regards to power.

Wonder what he could have been if they allowed him to keep pitching. 

1 hour ago, RLC said:

We can't pay 5 veterans on the OL. 

For the math to work, Lane would have to retire. 

Why not? What do you know that Howie doesn’t? Please make it more than an opinion.

21 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

TE?

That’s fine as long as he can block and catch. I’ll consider that part of the line. But, tbh it’s not like Goedert gets many balls with both WR’s out there. Just don’t want Stoll - no catch and Calcaterra  no block. 😆

24 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

So greatest of that time is greatest of all time, why?

Why now?

If compared to his peers he was light years ahead. Thats all. Again, I’m not saying Ohtani isn’t great. 

31 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

They did real well. We have talent in secondary finally and our WR room is terrific. Need a difference maker on the edge and just more overall talent.

My phone hates depth evidently. But I agree they really do need help there. Davis is probably gone so DT is a need as well. 

4 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Why now?

If compared to his peers he was light years ahead. Thats all. Again, I’m not saying Ohtani isn’t great. 

I get that you can argue there was a larger gap between he and his peers. But that doesnt really mean he is still the best ever. 

Im not old enough to have watched Ruth. And I dont think Ive watched a single game with Ohtani playing. Im not saying who is better or not better. I just question the validity of your argument. Best of his time does not equal best of all time.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I get that you can argue there was a larger gap between he and his peers. But that doesnt really mean he is still the best ever. 

Im not old enough to have watched Ruth. And I dont think Ive watched a single game with Ohtani playing. Im not saying who is better or not better. I just question the validity of your argument. Best of his time does not equal best of all time.

But it doesn't mean he wasn't. Highest WAR of all time. Not even close. So much better than anybody else in his era. Nobody comes close to that domination. Only a roided up Bonds and Hank Aaron with 3000 more AB hit more HRs. 

Damn, Alex Singleton tore his ACL against the Bucs, played the entire game with it torn and still let the team in tackles. I know we rag on him but he's made a nice career for himself. I'd actually prefer him on this team than some of the other LB they've tried as of recent. 

20 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I get that you can argue there was a larger gap between he and his peers. But that doesnt really mean he is still the best ever. 

Im not old enough to have watched Ruth. And I dont think Ive watched a single game with Ohtani playing. Im not saying who is better or not better. I just question the validity of your argument. Best of his time does not equal best of all time.

That’s fair, I’d argue w/AFan who a better pitcher was too. However, debating different eras is half the fun but also impossible to truly compare. 

First of all, there is a sentimentality towards Babe Ruth.  He’s as much Americana as George Washington at this point.  

I want to side with Ruth in any of these debates.

No one will ever be as dominant above their peers as Ruth was.  But you also have to acknowledge that his peers weren’t nearly as good.  While Ruth was a remarkable all around baseball player and his pitching career speaks to that, he really was all about the hit tool.

Shohei’s ability in every single facet of the sport…I’m confident it’s something we’ve never seen before and will absolutely never see again.  It’s seriously like being the best qb, CB, and kicker in the nfl all at once.

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

Tradeoff. Steen is probably better laterally, but Becton is a beast straight ahead. Both are potential starters, question is can either slide out to RT.

I wonder about this lateral myth. It’s unsupported to my eyes. And Becton has better feet than Steen, despite the opinion voiced earlier. He’s bigger, stronger, longer, faster, and quicker. There’s a reason he was a high first and Steen was a third. Steen can be a very good OL.  Benton can be a better one.

I would not be opposed to a Steen/Bechton right side of the OL in the future.  

It would be very nice to not have to pour draft resources into those positions over the next couple years.

38 minutes ago, just relax said:

Why not? What do you know that Howie doesn’t? Please make it more than an opinion.

If Becton is as good as you say, and I don't even disagree, why wouldn't he make at least 15M/Y in free agency?

Just now, RLC said:

If Becton is as good as you say, and I don't even disagree, why wouldn't he make at least 15M/Y in free agency?

Well he’s played about 2 games and a couple series since being left for dead.  I’m impressed by him too, but he’s got to keep this up a lot longer before he is a candidate for big money.  

22 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

That’s fair, I’d argue w/AFan who a better pitcher was too. However, debating different eras is half the fun but also impossible to truly compare. 

Yep. There’s way too many advancements in recent years in medicine/training/technology that current athletes will always have a leg up and the ones from the past are at a disadvantage. 

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Becton is as good as you say, and I don't even disagree, why wouldn't he make at least 15M/Y in free agency?

He might at that. If he’s as good as I’ve been saying and he’s healthy that may be the going rate. 

2 hours ago, RLC said:

It's both a top-heavy and deep EDGE class. Could easily take EDGEs with our first two picks.

Jalyx Hunt also counts as an EDGE in our system.

I don’t think EDGE is a position for this team.  There is no edge on this team.  Only DEs are Graham and Huff per PE.com.  Frankly, I think they want Huff to be an OLB.  Sweat?   He’s an OLB as is Smith and Hunt plus Anenih on the PS.  Patrick Johnson was an OLB too. Hunt is an OLB not an Edge. Eagles have no "DE” or Edge on the PS.  But they do have Gabe Hall.  He is the #3 DE behind Williams and Booker.  The nice thing about Fangio’s defense is Carter, and Ojomo can play both DT and big DE.   I would love to see them find another Graham, who can play OLB, DE and even DT next year.  So what 260- 270 lb lineman do you favor.  Plus, who do you like if they can’t extend Williams?  

This will be an interesting matchup Sunday and one that will be a test for the Eagles in a lot of ways.

The Bucs have the second-highest blitz rate in the league and have generated a lot of pressures, but not a lot of sacks. They have given up a lot of yards, but have limited the damage.

On offense, they give up a lot of sacks and pressures and don't move the ball well.

So for Hurts, the challenge becomes dealing with the blitz at a much higher rate than other teams have thrown at him while protecting the ball.

On defense, it will be interesting to see if Fangio brings extra pressure. The Broncos blitzed a lot and got home a lot. They had 7 sacks and 9 qb hits.

Meanwhile, we don't blitz, and so far are at the bottom of the league in pressures.

So it seems like this is a game where we dial up the blitz and give the Bucs some of the same medicine they have been shoving down our throats the last few times we have played them.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yep. There’s way too many advancements in recent years in medicine/training/technology that current athletes will always have a leg up and the ones from the past are at a disadvantage. 

Yep. As someone said whom I can’t remember, Babe Ruth never saw a slider..