2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles may not be able to get Reddick back, but that doesn't mean they can't trade Huff. Honestly, I'd trade him back to the Jets before his value totally plummets. He's not doing anything anyway. It would essentially just be like buying a draft pick. Then maybe the Jets will just cut Reddick and the Eagles could sign him. If not, just use Hunt, he started getting playing time this week anyway.

We'd have to give someone a premium draft pick to take his contract. He still has like $17.5mm gteed over the next 2 years. Oh, and we'd take a massive cap charge of over $16mm.

Also, did it look to anyone else like we were running something closer to the Sirianni offense yesterday? 

4 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I don't think it's hyperbolic to say, if Doug were here and had the same setup Sirianni has, Eagles would be 4-0.

Hurts never listened to Doug, either.  

Sirianni for Pederson trade straight up - who says no?

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Ego not letting him change is going to cost him his job again

30 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

 

9. Have we heard of a RB screen? Or a TE screen?

 

I talk about this a lot and don’t quite understand it.  The Eagles were consistently the best screen team in the NFL during the AR era.  And they earned that distinction even before Westbrook established himself as an all universe screen RB.

We have a monstrous OL that is still very mobile.    We had a HOF center whose greatest trait was running and blocking around the field.

Swift was a highly agile back who was pretty confident catching the football…as was Miles Sanders.  And Barkley speaks for himself.

And we have a legendary OL coach.

Despite all that…the Eagles have been a terrible screen team for about 4 years now.  They are brutal at setting them up.  I get why they don’t call it because they always fail.  When teams run screens against us, there is a wall moving upfield with a RB hiding behind blockers.  When we run them, we’ve got Barkley/Covey/Gainwell/Smith needing to beat one guy with a clean 1:1 look at a tackle before they can even get to positive yards…and then the rest of the defense swarming shortly thereafter.  We truly suck at setting screens up.  

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Hot take: DeSai was actually doing fairly well considering he had garbage at LB and secondary was half the talent it is this year. Plus the offense was hurting the defense and putting them in bad position. He was adjusting at halftime and in many games held teams to 0 points in the 2nd half. He became the scapegoat and Patrecia was worse. The players apparently liked DeSai and didn't like the move. I wouldn't have minded seeing DeSai with this roster. Fangio is stubborn and thinks he's the Bill Walsh of defense.

DeSai? Is he Italian now? I agree with your take.  I think the move to Patricia was Siranni.  The move failed because Patricia isn't Belichick.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

DeSai? Is he Italian now? I agree with your take.  I think the move to Patricia was Siranni.  The move failed because Patricia isn't Belichick.  

Beyond my natural anger of seeing my Indian brother fired, the move to demote Desai made no sense as they were coming off 2 losses against quality teams (SF and DAL) that both had rest advantages (both played TNF the week before our game). Meanwhile, our defense was destroyed by playing 90 snaps against Buffalo. It was a panic move that made no sense -- we had just run the gauntlet from the Dolphins to the 2nd Cowboys game at 4-2. We'd have all taken that at the beginning of the year.

I firmly believe when Nick did that he lost the locker room.

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Hot take: DeSai was actually doing fairly well considering he had garbage at LB and secondary was half the talent it is this year. Plus the offense was hurting the defense and putting them in bad position. He was adjusting at halftime and in many games held teams to 0 points in the 2nd half. He became the scapegoat and Patrecia was worse. The players apparently liked DeSai and didn't like the move. I wouldn't have minded seeing DeSai with this roster. Fangio is stubborn and thinks he's the Bill Walsh of defense.

I said this with Desai last year. He was the scapegoat for a bigger personnel issue last year and it wouldn’t be any better with Patricia. I don’t think Desai is some genius or great DC but he was given worse personnel in the secondary and LB and I’d argue done as well as fangio has. I think it was telling that Banner basically said the system doesn’t work against good Qb in a tweet of his. He didn’t say it by accident  

7 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Sirianni for Pederson trade straight up - who says no?

Fine but Jax has to keep Pres Taylor. 

56 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Moore's never been a head coach.  No way would he be capable of scheming the offense, calling plays, and managing the game.

Only one way to find out. 

 

If he goes 0-for then so be it.  You correct the mistake of bringing Nick back and you get to start from scratch with high draft picks and get your EDGE.

 

And if he does well, even better.

1 hour ago, RLC said:

Would you rather be the Eagles the past 12 years or the Steelers with Mike Tomlin?

The Eagles.   But, I stand by my statement that its an interesting comment.  The TEAM has had success during the last 12 years, but the coaches have come and gone rather quickly.  I'd rather win than lose, but I'm not sure I'd say that the coach selections have been exactly stellar.  In most cases it almost seems like the success came despite the HC, not because of them.    In other words, it doesn't seem that the Eagles' HC has been the one to move the needle, it has been other factors.

Desai wasn't fired because he was a bad defensive mind.

He was fired because he was meek.

And Sirianni didn't have the spine to support him. Covered for everyone else and made Desai look like a loser, but he was cool watching Patricia aimlessly field an all-time bad Eagles defense.

1 minute ago, paco said:

Only one way to find out. 

 

If he goes 0-for then so be it.  You correct the mistake of bringing Nick back and you get to start from scratch with high draft picks and get your EDGE.

 

And if he does well, even better.

I’d roll with Moore. Even if it spirals out of control and we suck that potentially happens with sirianni for a second consecutive year. Add on at least we’d have high draft picks and hopefully get some higher quality talent along the DL or maybe Lane’s long term replacement 

1 minute ago, paco said:

Only one way to find out. 

 

If he goes 0-for then so be it.  You correct the mistake of bringing Nick back and you get to start from scratch with high draft picks and get your EDGE.

 

And if he does well, even better.

Hurts is the bigger problem.  

Not saying Sirianni is some great coach, but no one is going to get great results with the slop Hurts is laying down.  

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Ego not letting him change is going to cost him his job again

 

Dang. Live look at the wheels falling off the bus right there.

Joe Giglio made a point today(yes, him!) that I actually agree with and have come around on.

He said going forward unless the Eagles are 100% certain they have an elite franchise QB who's proven it through multiple years of playing like a top 5 guy. A la Josh Allen, Mahomes, etc. He's not paying a QB mega bucks again if he's the GM of the Eagles. That he'd trade them away at peak value and go draft another one and take the cap flexibility.

I don't think it's a bad strategy. If Hurts wasn't making 50m per year, maybe they sign a guy like Patrick Queen at LB. Maybe they go the extra mile for McKinney at safety.

The Eagles built their best teams with QBs on rookie contracts.

1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:

Desai wasn't fired because he was a bad defensive mind.

He was fired because he was meek.

And Sirianni didn't have the spine to support him. Covered for everyone else, but made Desai look like a loser but was cool watching Patricia aimlessly field an all-time bad Eagles defense.

I have a theory it wasn’t just sirianni. I think Howie thought the defense he built should’ve been better than what they were under Desai. He saw the upcoming schedule after sf/Dallas and thought this is an easy part of the schedule with some bad teams and backup QBs. If Patricia comes in and it looks better than Desai looks worse and the moves he made look better. Except it got worse and i actually think it made Desai look better (not much tho)

1 hour ago, Swoop said:

I know it won't happen and I am sure others won't agree, but I really wish the team would just get gutted and they completely rebuild. Have a fire sale and get what you can for basically everyone, get a new coaching staff and get ready to be a bad football team for a spell.

Would rather watch a team that's bad because they're inexperienced, but still competitive because they're coached well as opposed to a team that thinks their crap doesn't stink and suck anyway.

That's absurd. They have a lot of talent. They need a new HC, Hurts contract is what it is so they need a HC and OC to play to his strengths. They have a great O line and elite skill players. Blowing up a team with this talent is insanity. They need better coaching.

1 hour ago, tuffstuff07 said:

Why do the players seem so against the fans lately. They brag how great the fans are when it's going well but as soon as things go badly and they get criticized they always start attacking the fan base.

That's the nature of the generation.  SOCIAL MEDIA enables more access to them, and more access for their stupidity to be on full display, they don't have the chance to be filtered by the PR department, etc.  They just put whatever stupid thought they have in to the Twitter verse, then they are shocked when it creates drama.   What they don't seem to understand is that the reason they get paid so much is because people care as much as they do.  If they didn't care, they wouldn't get the backlash, but they also wouldn't get the big paydays.   It all comes with the territory.  The smart ones get it and know how to interact with fans, mostly by NOT engaging in the back and forth.   They are the BGs, the Malcolm Jenkins, the Lane Johnsons... they just do their job, and even with BG having his weekly radio show, he never says anything critical of the fans.  And I think part of that is due to the fact that he understands that at the end of the day this fan base wants to see effort.  Give great effort in a loss, it will be tough, but the fan reaction will be muted.   Throw out a turd like Sunday and the fans are going to be up in arms.  And rightly so... then when you have the audacity to try to write off the effort with stupid crap like Rodgers and Slay have done, all that accomplishes is to feed the beast.   They are going to get ridden twice as hard now.

For example, Slay wants to focus on the past-accolades.  I'll focus on his past win-loss record in Detroit while he was accumulating those accolades.   Good for you, Darius.  But, your stat line doesn't make the outcome better for me when my team loses.  Don't be selfish.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

Dang. Live look at the wheels falling off the bus right there.

They were falling off at the end of 2023. This is just a continuation to full on implosion. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I have a theory it wasn’t just sirianni. I think Howie thought the defense he built should’ve been better than what they were under Desai. He saw the upcoming schedule after sf/Dallas and thought this is an easy part of the schedule with some bad teams and backup QBs. If Patricia comes in and it looks better than Desai looks worse and the moves he made look better. Except it got worse and i actually think it made Desai look better (not much tho)

It was Howie 100%.  There's no way Sirianni is hiring Patricia immediately before the season after already putting a staff together, and there's no way Sirianni is jettisoning one of his guys in the middle of his first season.

Folks need to wake up.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Moore's never been a head coach.  No way would he be capable of scheming the offense, calling plays, and managing the game.

Wait. You're saying that a coordinator who has never been a HC can't be a HC? What? That's literally the career path, or direct from position coach to HC. 

On a positive note it looks like we may have something with Quinyon. He played every snap yesterday, it’s been baptism by fire, and he’s more than holding his own. You’d obviously like to see him come down with a few of those dropped picks but he’s footed the bill so far. 
 

And he’s not like a 16 year old girl going on Twitter after games which shows he’s an adult. 

Just now, NOTW said:

Wait. You're saying that a coordinator who has never been a HC can't be a HC? What? That's literally the career path, or direct from position coach to HC. 

Having a full offseason to prepare, assemble a staff, go through camp, etc. is much different than taking over midseason.