25 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lol this has been a bit much to read for pages. You guys are acting like he's a bottom 5 QB

No, but in 2023 he was a 12-15 ranked QB based on his overall play.  This season, so far, he's 11th in passing yards, T18th in passing TDs, 16th in completion %, T5th most interceptions, bottom quarter in INT %, and 22nd in QB rating.

These are all big problems when his contract is $255M with $180M in guaranteed money.  It's hard to overstate that.   

Give me Cam Ward. He might end up being a bust, but at least he won't get scared in the pocket 😂

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

What's the sample size though? 5 passes in 5 years?

The overwhelming majority of his passes are to the outside. There's a reason for that.

One of the biggest is because he wets his pants and runs to the right constantly.

Hyperbole aside, yes. We have evidence he doesn't throw a ton there but we also have evidence when he does he's good at it. We've seen no evidence he's unable to do it.

22 hours ago, NYEagle said:

 

 

That play doesn't live in my memory as a great play, because ultimately, they went on to lose that game.   Major damper on the excitement in remembering that hit.  

13 minutes ago, Swoop said:

No one thinks he's a bottom 5 QB, but the guy stinks.

He has more offensive talent than arguably anyone in the league and turns it over 30 times a season. 

Cousins just threw 500+ on the same Bucs defense that held us to 0 yards for half of the game with the vaunted receiving group of London, Mooney and Hodge.

Before you or anyone says it, I know we were missing pieces. He still had plenty of talent on the field and does most games in general.

I'd complain more about the gameplan vs the Bucs

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

No, but in 2023 he was a 12-15 ranked QB based on his overall play.  This season, so far, he's 11th in passing yards, T18th in passing TDs, 16th in completion %, T5th most interceptions, bottom quarter in INT %, and 22nd in QB rating.

These are all big problems when his contract is $255M with $180M in guaranteed money.  It's hard to overstate that.   

What starting QB doesn't have a mega contract?

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

What starting QB doesn't have a mega contract?

Hurts is still paid in the top quarter of NFL QB salaries for guaranteed money, total value, etc.  The way Howie backloaded the deal makes it look more palatable right now, but the Eagles are married to Hurts for at least two more years -- maybe three.  

The worst thing for any team's salary cap is for the highest paid players to play at less than average production.  

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd complain more about the gameplan vs the Bucs

What starting QB doesn't have a mega contract?

With 20/20 - they didn’t necessarily have to extend him when they did.

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

What starting QB doesn't have a mega contract?

 

I'd draw the line right about there...

1 minute ago, mayanh8 said:

 

I'd draw the line right about there...

Why there? Are you going by avg/year?

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Why there? Are you going by avg/year?

Total guaranteed money since that seems to be the biggest number that players and organizations fight over and is the dollar amount amount representative of the commitment made to a player.

Just a gut feeling - with the return of AJ Brown and Smitty - this team should look amazing after the bye.

And the defense knows what it needs to do - which is wake the F up. 

 

Go Birds!! 

3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Total guaranteed money since that seems to be the biggest number that players and organizations fight over and is the dollar amount amount representative of the commitment made to a player.

I asked because Carr's contract in total guaranteed is higher than your line

1 hour ago, RLC said:

Everyone handled last night's game well I see.

Kirk Cousins throwing for 500 yards in prime time will shake a mans faith in the football gods.

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I asked because Carr's contract in total guaranteed is higher than your line

It was my best guess. It's not an exact science. 

18 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd complain more about the gameplan vs the Bucs

I agree that the game plan was hot garbage.

Having said that, he was horrendous. His throws weren't in the same zip code. He missed Barkley for a walk in TD. He had another game with 2 turnovers (almost a pick six as well) and one of them was a momentum killer.

I expect the offense will look better when the big 3 gets back, but he has been a joke for the large part of the last 25? games or so.

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Just a gut feeling - with the return of AJ Brown and Smitty - this team should look amazing after the bye.

And the defense knows what it needs to do - which is wake the F up. 

 

Go Birds!! 

So far Cleveland has put up 17, 18, 15, and 16 in the first 4 weeks.  Eagles should be able to hold them under 20 points at home.

Eagles should also be able to score 20 first-half points at home next week.  We'll see how they do.

42 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Hyperbole aside, yes. We have evidence he doesn't throw a ton there but we also have evidence when he does he's good at it. We've seen no evidence he's unable to do it.

Unable and unwilling are the same phenotype

Trade squirts to Raiders, start McKee and draft Milroe. Let’s go fill circle. 

29 minutes ago, paco said:

Kirk Cousins throwing for 500 yards in prime time will shake a mans faith in the football gods.

So by this metric our defense in week 2 was good?

6 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Trade squirts to Raiders, start McKee and draft Milroe. Let’s go fill circle. 

I would like to see what our offense would look like (when fully healthy) for one game with McKee starting

16 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Unable and unwilling are the same phenotype

That's why I say take the choice out of his hands. If the offense runs a ton of plays with route combinations that are over the middle. Drags, crossers, slants, etc, then he'll have no choice. What is he going to do just not throw the ball? They can't know it doesn't work if they don't do it. We know the offense they're currently running isn't working. At least not to the level everyone expected. What's the downside to trying? It doesn't work.... which is what the currently offense is doing anyway.

I'm not convinced there isn't something else at play here.

14 minutes ago, RLC said:

So by this metric our defense in week 2 was good?

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That play doesn't live in my memory as a great play, because ultimately, they went on to lose that game.   Major damper on the excitement in remembering that hit.  

They killed the Eagles on that play earlier in the year IIRC

15 minutes ago, RLC said:

So by this metric our defense in week 2 was good?

20 minutes ago, RLC said:

So by this metric our defense in week 2 was good?

Other than the last drive?  Of course.  Unfortunately a bad offense kept them in the game where we should have been up 17 points already.