It's finally going to click this time. Pro Bowl incoming.

3 hours ago, NOTW said:

TBF, Joyner didn't say all of them went to the middle, he said "look and tell me how many routes sit down or are design in the middle of the field. Opposed to how many are shot plays, and designs outside the has marks!" Plus, my post said help me with the narrative some fans have that Hurts "refuses" to run certain plays.

This is how showing evidence goes on here. "He can't/refuses to throw to the middle of the field!" Show highlight reel of multiple passes to the middle of the field mixed with other successful plays, and the response is "well some of those weren't in the middle." 

Do we break down other team's QBs great throws and dismiss them because the WR made a good play on the ball? Can Hurts get any credit for anything? I've said all year he's mid and has regressed, but damn can the guy get any credit for any good plays?

It's less about refusing to and more about him not being comfortable. The overwhelming majority of his career he has passed the football to the outside. For a short spell, it was to the right. It's not necessarily that he's physically incapable, but I do think it's mental. We can all pinpoint certain plays that did work in that area of the field, but it's disingenuous to pretend like it's common. It isn't. We have multiple years of evidence to support that he, more likely than not, will not target the middle of the field.

If it's coaching that refuses to use the middle of the field then they all need to go and Lurie needs to sell the team for allowing it to happen.

Im obviously one of the forefathers of not being a Hurts guy, but even I gave him credit in '22. I also said prior to the season that he was going to turn it around and play well and I (even last season) gave him credit for being clutch in crunch time.

It's been pointed out before, but where was this amount of support or excuses for Carson Wentz? The guy had an amazing team in 2017, absolutely. Outside of that one season and as his career progressed he had very, very little help and it continued to dwindle. He had some pretty serious injuries. His wide receivers sucked. His career as a passer was pretty damn solid with no where near the support.

On the flip side we have Hurts, who like Wentz, is regressing. Hurts, who unlike Wentz, has been largely gifted with *elite* talent on offense. Hurts who continues to roll right, make dumb decisions, have a fumbling problem and play hero ball. Sound familiar? The difference is he has these stars around him to help bail him out at times.

This is not to say Wentz didn't need to go, wanted to go, etc, because he absolutely did. He had his issues and was injury prone. The fact remains though that the guy was crucified for playing with scrubs and helping us win our first SB and dragging a bunch of nobodies to the playoffs. How'd Hurts look with nobodies on offense, again? Like he didn't even belong on the field.

For what it's worth, the fanbase liked to pile on McNabb too, when he also had squat on offense to work with and is still the best QB in franchise history.

Meanwhile we are now hearing things like:

"Hurts is a dad, he's sleepy!"

"The field was slippery!"

"He only had "one* of the best running backs in the league and only one of his top 15 receivers!"

Enough is enough. Either perform consistently or see your way out. 

This isn't all directed *at* you, either. Just in general.

31 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Now you’re just being silly.

 

Holding any NFL team to 9 points is a defensive accomplishment. 

Am I really though?  They scored 17, 18, 15, 13, 16 (9 offensively) and then 16 (9 offensively).   This is who the Browns have been all year.  They are not good.  They are the 3rd lowest scoring team in the NFL.

And this was the 3rd of 3 straight road games playing against a team coming off a bye.  The Eagles defense didn't do much of anything special besides letting Watson be the pathetic version of himself that he has become.  

I didn't see anything that impressive, even after they were forced to put in their 3rd string C and shuffle their OL.  

3 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Thankfully before my time, but 1 season above .500 in 16 years... enough for me to really care about hockey.

 

 

That is my entire childhood. Imagine how much fun it was for me being an Eagles fan when I was in school.

I was curious if they would put Steen at LT which was his natural position pre-draft. 

9 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

That is my entire childhood. Imagine how much fun it was for me being an Eagles fan when I was in school.

Not having to pay attention to a terrible football team during the height of casual sex and drug culture?

 

I'm guessing a f'n blast.

3 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

That is my entire childhood. Imagine how much fun it was for me being an Eagles fan when I was in school.

Brutal - I guess the tickets were a buck or two, coming back each year for that is something else.

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Brutal - I guess the tickets were a buck or two, coming back each year for that is something else.

I was able to go to a game or two as a teenager in those early 90s days, because a friend of mine's dad worked for FOX 29, and they would give the tickets they would buy to televise the game to their employees.  So... free tickets!    Then, in the late 90s when I was in college I became a season ticket holder in Section 715 of the Vet.  $230/season for one seat.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I was able to go to a game or two as a teenager in those early 90s days, because a friend of mine's dad worked for FOX 29, and they would give the tickets they would buy to televise the game to their employees.  So... free tickets!    Then, in the late 90s when I was in college I became a season ticket holder in Section 715 of the Vet.  $230/season for one seat.

I was late 90s college as well.  I still remember they use to give our school tickets time to time and being able to get tickets to games for like $12.  At the same time a few of my fraternity brother got season tickets together (and still have them today as far as I know (I haven't seen them at a tailgate in 10 years)), despite one of them being a giants fan  

3 minutes ago, paco said:

I was late 90s college as well.  I still remember they use to give our school tickets time to time and being able to get tickets to games for like $12.  At the same time a few of my fraternity brother got season tickets together (and still have them today as far as I know (I haven't seen them at a tailgate in 10 years)), despite one of them being a giants fan  

My roommate joined me in the season tickets, but he was a 49ers fan.   So, he had a different feeling on that fateful MNF game where the flare was sent across the field in 1998, and they installed the court in the basement.    Incidentally, the person who fired off the flare across the field was sitting in the 500 level near the railing right in front of our seats in the 700 level.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I was able to go to a game or two as a teenager in those early 90s days, because a friend of mine's dad worked for FOX 29, and they would give the tickets they would buy to televise the game to their employees.  So... free tickets!    Then, in the late 90s when I was in college I became a season ticket holder in Section 715 of the Vet.  $230/season for one seat.

I’d have somebody push open the exit gate and we’d sit on the top steps of 710, did that for years. Got a job, started paying my way when the price was $25/game.

I'm not sure which roster spot would even be cleared for us to even activate Albert O. Heck, it's going to be difficult to find one for us to activate Sydney Brown, which will probably be coming next week. I was kind of assuming it would be someone like Stoll or maybe Johnny Wilson. Maybe Burks? Perhaps Maddox, who has already been replaced (and outperformed) by DeJean.

To be honest, I'm not sure why they promoted Parris Campbell in the first place. They could have kept that spot open a little while longer.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes, the Saints game was excellent, but the Browns game was talked about for the full two weeks leading up to that game about how it was a 'get right' game for the team.  They were expected to do what they did, so their performance, to me at least, wasn't that impressive.  The Browns are broken.  Their highest scoring output so far this season was 18 points, against the nearly as horrific Jags.  Holding their offense to 9 points would be the lowest output they've had all season, but coming off a bye and at home, you'd expect the Eagles to have a significant advantage.

So, I really wasn't impressed by the defense against the Browns.  They basically did nothing more than what they were expected to do.  They met expectations.

And then after the game I was hearing excuses (not here) that the Browns defense is actually good but both Dallas and Commies were able to score more than us

51 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

They'd still have to pay for him though. Would Lions want him long term if they'd be trading because of injury?

20 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They’re saving the middle of the field attack for the playoffs 

 

 

 

yes, I'm joking

Barkley doesn't think he'll get booed by Giants fans? I'd be shocked if he doesn't get booed. 

Reverse the situation, it's Shady and he's a free agent. We don't offer him a contract that he finds acceptable so he goes to Dallass or the Giants. I'd fully expect the Linc to boo him. Have him go to some other random AFC team (like Dawk to Denver), that's different. But going to a hated rival? No, I'd expect booing. 

6 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm not sure which roster spot would even be cleared for us to even activate Albert O. Heck, it's going to be difficult to find one for us to activate Sydney Brown, which will probably be coming next week. I was kind of assuming it would be someone like Stoll or maybe Johnny Wilson. Maybe Burks? Perhaps Maddox, who has already been replaced (and outperformed) by DeJean.

To be honest, I'm not sure why they promoted Parris Campbell in the first place. They could have kept that spot open a little while longer.

Agreed about Campbell, that never made sense to me.

I'm guessing Mailata goes to IR. Maybe Goedert also. I think Gates is probably the 53rd player. Kinnard and Byron Young seem close to that range also.

30 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I'm super confused on why then

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

They'd still have to pay for him though. Would Lions want him long term if they'd be trading because of injury?

Not necessarily. They just have to be more competent than the Jets were. It's getting to the point that a long term deal is never going to happen this year and unless he wants to sit out a year at his age, he's going to have to pivot. It sounds like since hiring Rosenhaus that's the direction they are pivoting to also. 

Shaheed will have surgery on his knee so the Saints might be down to 2 WRs for TNF  

 

24 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Barkley doesn't think he'll get booed by Giants fans? I'd be shocked if he doesn't get booed. 

Reverse the situation, it's Shady and he's a free agent. We don't offer him a contract that he finds acceptable so he goes to Dallass or the Giants. I'd fully expect the Linc to boo him. Have him go to some other random AFC team (like Dawk to Denver), that's different. But going to a hated rival? No, I'd expect booing. 

Didn't Barkley also sign a team friendly 1 year contract after they tagged him last year?   Dude literally did everything he could to stay in NYC.  And on the way out he didn't burn a single bridge

 

If Shady did whatever he could to stay but our FO didn't make it happen and Shady was gracious on the way out I'd doubt we'd boo him.  

3 minutes ago, paco said:

Saints might be down to 2 WRs for TNF  

 

Bub Means breakout game!

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Bub Means breakout game!

My FanDuel TNF Showdown might be the most boring lineup ever  

Kamara (MVP), Saints D, Broncos D, Nix, Javonte Williams

1 hour ago, hputenis said:

Are you mid-day hump day boozing again?