"It's the Mets year!"

It's never the Mets year. If people haven't realized by now the Mets will always end up Metsing, you just haven't watched sports. They could have a series where they trailed by 10 runs in each game and won all of them and they'd still find a way to lose at the end. They're the Mets. We'll have colonies outside the solar system before the Mets win a World Series.

And their little run comes to a fiery end as we all knew it would. They were never as good as they played for the last couple months. Good riddance, losers.

I hope Fields likes the bench. 

Bengals pass offense is 7th in the league, run offense 28th. Points per game 10th. On defense they're in the bottom third in all categories. 

So the Eagles hopefully do well enough offensively since their defense is not their strength, and need the defense to continue to build on what they've been doing.

Burrow will move the ball, the defense will definitely look much worse next week. The offense is going to have to score.

Today is a prime example of why stats lie. The numbers will look like Hurts played well. He didn't. He was pretty bad. Made one great throw, everything else was a dump off pretty much and he missed several wide open guys through the game. Why he simply can't see wide open guys right in front of him is beyond me. And if he does see them and for some reason isn't pulling the trigger, that's honestly even worse. If he plays like he did today against the Bengals, the Eagles are going to get smoked unless Barkley runs for like 250.

59 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So they aren’t judging all routes.  Just at the time of catch or incompletion.  Any route that isn’t a target is discarded?

Not putting this on Hurts.  Let’s call it Daniel Jones.  So if Daniel Jones completely misses a wide open Nabers, that doesn’t even go into separation stats.

If Jones lofts a duck to a wide open Nabers and the defender closes on Nabers by the time the ball gets there…is that 0.0 yards of separation for that target?

With the way they measure this stat, aren’t the numbers going to be lower if the qb is pulling the trigger late and not hitting guys in stride?

Because we were discussing it, I looked up how they determine separation and pasted the quote above. So the stat may not be as encompassing as I originally assumed and the results can be interpreted in a way like you suggested. I would like a little more clarification about the specifics, but if it's only measured on the "target" for each pass play, then it's less of a WR stat and more of a QB stat. 

Time to make that move for Myles. Watson is done and Myles was ripping the fans today for cheering his injury. Browns are in tank mode for sure now. Go get him Howie!

 

 

There were folks on here who thought the Jets were a good team a few short days ago

 

 

3 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Looking forward to the Bengals.

A nice litmus test for our secondary, which has had relatively easy challenges the last two weeks.

Hoping that our backups at OL don't let Cincinnati's talented DL blow up the game. 

Would you say it's the REAL test?

4 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Hoping that our backups at OL don't let Cincinnati's talented DL blow up the game. 

Backups at OL? Who else have we lost?

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Backups at OL? Who else have we lost?

Mailata and Becton, but I think Steen is comparable so not much of a drop off there, if any, if Becton doesn't clear concussion protocol.

Based on how Fred Johnson played Yesterday, if Mailata is still out I'd be tempted to put Steen in at RG and move Becton across to LT if he's healthy. A tackle being pushed back that hard is an injury risk to roll up on everyone else if nothing else.  

Bengals are horrible defensively, they've given up 20 TD's in 7 games, they've also struggled against almost every decent tailback they've faced, we should be able to get past them handily if the defense continues its recent progress.

21 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Mailata and Becton, but I think Steen is comparable so not much of a drop off there, if any, if Becton doesn't clear concussion protocol.

Oh god another in concussion protocol!

Morning after thoughts…

Yesterday was a win, a very convincing one at that.  Yet, I can’t still help but feel like I still don’t enjoy watching the Eagles team.  Is it carryover from last year?  Irrational? I’m not quite sure…

The traditional juggernauts are struggling as well this year.  Whether it’s injuries or inconsistent play.  In the grand scheme, how does the Eagles play compare to that?

We should all be happy on the surface with a 4-2 record.  The defense seems to be clicking, new pieces are stepping up.  The problem still seems to be the offense, where the only consistency is, when we run we dominate.  Another week of ‘is it the QB or the coaching’ is upon us.

9 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I was agreeing with you that Barks got into his release too quick but I haven't gone back to watch it again. Either way, Hurts had his share of misses today.

You had highlighted how vacant the left side was with the S creeped in only.  I didn’t realize how completely empty that side was.  The play design also seemed to be aimed to pull everything right too freeing that swing.

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Based on how Fred Johnson played Yesterday, if Mailata is still out I'd be tempted to put Steen in at RG and move Becton across to LT if he's healthy. A tackle being pushed back that hard is an injury risk to roll up on everyone else if nothing else.  

Bengals are horrible defensively, they've given up 20 TD's in 7 games, they've also struggled against almost every decent tailback they've faced, we should be able to get past them handily if the defense continues its recent progress.

Stoll has proved serviceable, and yet I don’t see him much.  In line we know Calc is useless blocking and requires being off the line or in space to be effective as a blocker.  Lawrence is just a menace and possibly DPOTY as of now, the RB’s seemed to be used to help with him.  Fred seemed to get little to no help.  Pretty baffling.

8 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

This gumming chewing ST coach was on the eagles staff at one time right?

Danny Smith. He seemed like an old coach to me when he was here (95-98) but he was just turning 40. He's made a nice coaching career for himself. 

2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Based on how Fred Johnson played Yesterday, if Mailata is still out I'd be tempted to put Steen in at RG and move Becton across to LT if he's healthy. A tackle being pushed back that hard is an injury risk to roll up on everyone else if nothing else.  

Bengals are horrible defensively, they've given up 20 TD's in 7 games, they've also struggled against almost every decent tailback they've faced, we should be able to get past them handily if the defense continues its recent progress.

I agree with this. The drop from Becton to Steen is minimal, if any. The drop from Mailata to Johnson is alarming. Becton could at least hold his own for 3 weeks. 

35 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

You had highlighted how vacant the left side was with the S creeped in only.  I didn’t realize how completely empty that side was.  The play design also seemed to be aimed to pull everything right too freeing that swing.

It very much did, and in my mind, would have been an excellent call to get the ball to Barkley to add the exclamation point on that drive, since he set it up with that beautiful long run.  So, as I was watching it live, it seemed to me that he should have been the first read... the formation, the defensive alignment... everything was pointing to that as the best option on the initial read, and as the play developed, it just bloomed perfectly for an easy pitch and catch walk in TD.  Other teams get those... but for some reason, this team can't seem to do it.    And as your other post asked... is it the scheme or the QB.    Clearly the scheme worked perfectly to create a wide open receiver.  So, that leads one to believe that its more on the QB.

 

As for the idea that the RB should have feigned blocking for a beat longer... with the pass rush we saw early from the Giants and the inability of Fred Johnson to slow them down at times... maybe he didn't have the confidence that doing so would have allowed time for that to develop.   I don't know.   That play just made me so sad... just like the 3rd and 3 crosser to Smith made me sad.  Schemed perfectly to get exactly what the team wanted, and the QB failed to execute it even though he was looking right at it.

12 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

Davis - Solid starter

Dean - Better than solid starter

Carter - DPOY potential

Smith - Improving into a solid starter, maybe more

Ringo - Backup with potential

Mitchell - DROY candidate

DeJean - Already a solid starter

 

Howie has replenished this defense in the last 3 years really well.

Davis is at best a rotational guy right now. He's not even solid starter level.

 

Dean is bad. The only thing he can do is attack the line of scrimmage. He got two sacks on well designed blitzes. Reminds me of Morrow getting 3 sacks in a game last year. Kills me to watch Leo Chenal, who I liked much better and was drafted after Dean, actually play good football for the Chiefs.

38 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Stoll has proved serviceable, and yet I don’t see him much.  In line we know Calc is useless blocking and requires being off the line or in space to be effective as a blocker.  Lawrence is just a menace and possibly DPOTY as of now, the RB’s seemed to be used to help with him.  Fred seemed to get little to no help.  Pretty baffling.

Unless they are running a bubble screen and he just whiffs.  He had multiple whiffs in those situations yesterday.   Ultimately, I see any play design that relies on him to be a reliable blocker to be doomed from the start.

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I agree with this. The drop from Becton to Steen is minimal, if any. The drop from Mailata to Johnson is alarming. Becton could at least hold his own for 3 weeks. 

The reason the team is less interested in doing that is that it does involve changing two positions on the line.  That's far from ideal.  BUT... since they were forced to throw Steen in yesterday, that already happened... and so putting Becton back in the lineup at LT won't create another ripple effect.   

 

That said, are we sure that Becton is ready to flip sides and slide out to tackle?   Did he work at OT during TC at all?