32 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

The team has 39 wins over the past 3 years with 3 different sets of co ordinators, at some point you have to accept that Sirianni does have something to do with that. The idea he's some sort of mascot running pep rallies in the locker room as the Coordinators do all the football work is ridiculous.

John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell to name 2 guys who leave the coordinating to coordinators in the League right now don't get any of these questions about whether they're worth their job.

I didn't say he had nothing to do with it. The question is, is he the main driving force behind it? The answer to that is my guess would be no, but I really can't say for certain one way or the other. If I had to say right now I'd put the main reason the team has been as successful as they have over that time is

1. Roster/Howie

2. Coordinators

3. Sirianni

Not a zero factor, but not the main factor.

I think I'd take about 8 or so coaches over him in the NFL right now.

35 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Assuming Johnson doesn’t want to go to Jacksonville then i think I’d go Joe Brady 

I would too but I wonder if he would. Going to Jax and getting stuck with Baalke isn't a good idea for someone his age. He could even sit out this cycle and be a hotter name next year assuming Ben Johnson takes a job this year. 

41 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

The team has 39 wins over the past 3 years with 3 different sets of co ordinators, at some point you have to accept that Sirianni does have something to do with that. The idea he's some sort of mascot running pep rallies in the locker room as the Coordinators do all the football work is ridiculous.

John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell to name 2 guys who leave the coordinating to coordinators in the League right now don't get any of these questions about whether they're worth their job.

I think the talent is more of the reason. I'm not Howie's biggest fan but he's done a great job the past few years

29 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Wonder if Bucs QB coach will get some offers. Baker is a completely different QB since joining them. Granted he has some nice weapons

That would be former Eagle great QB Thad Lewis. 

He probably doesn't have enough experience yet for HC. Maybe he'll get OC interviews or become the Bucs OC if Coen gets a job.

13 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I don’t think it’s a bad thing but the RPO style offense seems to be very similar to Sirianni’s.
 

Moore has added motion and has made some really nice additions, etc but the base offense (run first) seems similar to what they were running in 2022 (which is a good thing, imo) 

Thanks.  Just wanted to clarify.

IMO, Hurts is the proponent of the RPO in the building.  It gives him a simpler read than a more complex scheme would require.

So, in your opinion, it's not so much the play design, but rather the balance between run and pass?

26 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Please elaborate on the fingerprints assumption.

 

Every playcall the Eagles make that doesn't work is a Sirianni play.  

 

1 hour ago, Next_Up said:

He comes off as emotionally reactive and out of control at times. Not a good look BUT the team changed its game strategy after the first 4 games. I give a HC a lot of credit for doing that--the willingness to do that. They are also very successful under Sirianni. At what point does it become odd not to give the guy in charge credit for the success of the team? 

It's already at that point.  It's weird.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Thanks.  Just wanted to clarify.

IMO, Hurts is the proponent of the RPO in the building.  It gives him a simpler read than a more complex scheme would require.

So, in your opinion, it's not so much the play design, but rather the balance between run and pass?

Run pass option plays are an NFL staple play at this point.  I do think the Eagles run more of them than other teams but I don't know if it that is just Jalen.  It may have as much to do with Stoutland.  

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That would be former Eagle great QB Thad Lewis. 

He probably doesn't have enough experience yet for HC. Maybe he'll get OC interviews or become the Bucs OC if Coen gets a job.

Agreed but that doesn't seem to stop teams

6 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Thanks.  Just wanted to clarify.

IMO, Hurts is the proponent of the RPO in the building.  It gives him a simpler read than a more complex scheme would require.

So, in your opinion, it's not so much the play design, but rather the balance between run and pass?

Basically yes - which I tend to agree, works with Jalen Hurts as the QB.  The run designs seem to be better (and better blocking schemes/ somewhat more complex under Moore) 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

It's already at that point.  It's weird.

There is a significant population of fans that blame him for the collapse last season, will never forgive him, and can't or don't want to understand that a head coach is responsible for so much more than the game plan.

IMO, the front office had a part in last year's problems.  They influenced the coordinator choices, panicked after our suspect defense go stomped on by two of the best offenses in the league (SF and Dallas), forced the move to an even worse DC which led to an abysmal defense and a disgruntled locker room. 

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There is a significant population of fans that blame him for the collapse last season, will never forgive him, and can't or don't want to understand that a head coach is responsible for so much more than the game plan.

IMO, the front office had a part in last year's problems.  They influenced the coordinator choices, panicked after our suspect defense go stomped on by two of the best offenses in the league (SF and Dallas), forced the move to an even worse DC which led to an abysmal defense and a disgruntled locker room. 

Last year can be traced all the way back to the Super Bowl loss and Gannon's deceit. Had the Cardinals and Gannon been honest, we never let Fangio leave the building. 2023 was always going to be step back on defense when we lost Hargrave and our LBs and safeties, but Howie compounded things by bringing in poor replacements (Morrow, Cunningham, Edmunds) and signing back Bradberry instead of CJGJ (which may not have been his fault as CJGJ overplayed his hand). But the real debacle was Desai. The team was caught unaware and had to hire from what was left, and my understanding was they knew pretty quickly Desai was a disaster. The players didn't respect him at all, and the defense just kept slipping. The final straw was the panic switch to Patricia, who tried to actually change the defense in the middle of the season. 

Basically, the biggest reason for 2023 was Gannon.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It's already at that point.  It's weird.

There's always going to be a perception that Sirianni doesn't deserve the credit for the team.  Part of that is his emotional reactivity and that he's not great with the media.  I also think he was hurt by the reports on his relationship with Hurts last season.  He deserves credit this season for managing the personalities on the team.  There are times where the team has come out and looked flat.  They have struggled early as an offense to score.  

 

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I just think Howie wasn't going to sign a 29 year old player like Van Ginkel over keeping Reddick.  

Yeah, I just don’t think Reddick was in the cards - so you needed to find a replacement. Huff has ten sacks last year as a role player for the Jets, Van Ginkel already played a role in Vic’s defense. I digress.

11 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There is a significant population of fans that blame him for the collapse last season, will never forgive him, and can't or don't want to understand that a head coach is responsible for so much more than the game plan.

IMO, the front office had a part in last year's problems.  They influenced the coordinator choices, panicked after our suspect defense go stomped on by two of the best offenses in the league (SF and Dallas), forced the move to an even worse DC which led to an abysmal defense and a disgruntled locker room. 

I agree but I do think the inability for the offense to adjust and function against the blitz was, in part, a Sirianni issue.  Even if he had a solution, clearly Hurts and Sirianni were not on the same page.  

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Belichick clearly explains why very good coordinators often fail at head coaching.  Game planning is far down on the list of responsibilities and whole bunch of Monday-Saturday work takes its place. 

I remember when John Harbaugh was talked about as a future head coach while he was the ST coordinator with the Eagles.  It obviously wasn't because of his kick coverage schemes.  It was because he was demonstrating the leadership skills that are harder to come by.

Did that YouTube link to Bill B even work? I know it’s a whole process.

30 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I think the talent is more of the reason. I'm not Howie's biggest fan but he's done a great job the past few years

How long for you to become a fan if he's been great for several years?

5 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

How long for you to become a fan if he's been great for several years?

Several years? Eh. Agree to disagree

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I was wondering where he went (probably in connection to the JAX vacancy), hot name at one moment in time at least to Bruce Arians.

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Several years? Eh. Agree to disagree

What's the difference between several and few? I think 3 years for both.  Few was your word, several mine.

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

That applies to absolutely everybody.  

The Patriots won their 3rd Super Bowl in 4 years in 2004.  Weis and Crennel left after the season and Bill Belichick went 10-6 in 2005.

Charlie Weiss isn't even remotely comparable to Ben Johnson. 

2 hours ago, just relax said:

Just re-watched the first Packer game on the All-22. The most obvious thing was the dreadful field they played on. Everybody was sliding around. Elliott ended up on his ass after kicking an extra point. (He made it.) The second thing was how porous our secondary was. The third thing was three bad turnovers - two INTs and a premature snap. The fourth was a series of bad run fits by our LBs and safeties, most notably by Dean. 

A better field will help both teams. I expect major improvement on items two through four. Why? Because I've seen it.

You don't expect major improvement on the first thing?  🤔

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

What's the difference between several and few? I think 3 years for both.  Few was your word, several mine.

I'm not a fan of his