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The NFL needs chips in the ball. The solution is right there and so easy, other sports have it.  Especially when an inch of snow is covering the damn hash marks and yard markers 

7 hours ago, Joe Ball said:

Someone make it stop.

Carter, Williams and Nolan are all such a force on the line. Even Sweat has been good.

Gotta keep Williams somehow and draft a DE. I'm going to be so mad if they let him go, but I can see it happening.

23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I guess I expected Dotson to be all by himself when Kempski first mentioned it. Maybe Hurts thought the safety could break on the ball?

I was on that side of the field, Jalen looked directly at him as a first read and then looked him off. He definitely had the opening but as usual he's not the type of player that will throw the ball on time.

He takes too long to make a decision which is why he holds onto the ball and take sacks. it's basically his biggest downfall. He doesn't trust himself or his receivers not named Brown. 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I ripped Hurts plenty so I’m not being a Hurts homer, but I think the footing played a role. In normal circumstances he could throw a pass that would flatten Dotson’s route to the sideline and keep the safety out of the play. Maybe he didn’t think that was an option. We saw Nacua have a really bad time trying to track a deep ball because he couldn’t change directions at all. We also saw some out routes die because receivers were turning like tug boats. 

I figured the elements would help us because we barely pass anyway and wouldn't have to adjust much, but I think they turned our anemic passing game into zero passing game, which was actually a bigger delta for us than the Rams.

Hurts never had a great arm, but in better weather with better footing, better opportunity to loosen up (it's much harder to throw hard in the cold, just ask pitchers), and a normal football...Hurts arm strength issues aren't that glaring.  

In the cold over the last 2 games, Hurts looks like a Detmer out there throwing the football.  He really had trouble getting any velocity on the ball, to the point that I was almost wondering if he had a shoulder injury.  I think the cold really limited him there and that may improve with some better weather.

3 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I'm not upset about that play honestly. Crappy conditions and yes, maybe he thought they could break off and jump it.

I'm more so poking fun at the people that continue to pound the table that no ones ever open when that's been proven wrong time and time again.

Like the safety play. I would hope Hurts could change out of that and he had open players, but it was still a dumb call 

Moore has his issues too and I would never say he doesn't, but a lot of our passing struggles over the past few years stems from one person.

If we lost yesterday, I don’t think I would have ever gotten over that safety. Just an all-time bad play by a QB. 

Just now, Swoop said:

Carter, Williams and Nolan are all such a force on the line. Even Sweat has been good.

Gotta keep Williams somehow and draft a DE. I'm going to be so mad if they let him go, but I can see it happening.

Milton Williams is a starting DT, not a rotational one.  Davis is the backup.  I'm sure Fangio will be talking to Howie about what he wants there.

38 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

-Not a single snap for Bryce Huff.

-44 for Milton Williams, 17 for Jordan Davis. Don't let Williams leave this building. 

-Carter only missed 2 snaps. 

-Nolan Smith and Josh Sweat were on the field A LOT. I was worried the pass rush was just gassed the last 2 drives.

-Dotson was on the field for more than half the snaps and never gets a look.

-Only 6 snaps for Gainwell and he got 20 yards on his 2 touches. In a game where the QB wasn't good, why they didn't lean more no Gainwell to compliment Barkley is beyond me. I'm one of the loudest he's a JAG guy, but clearly he was a net positive in this game. Use that to your advantage. 

 

Also, if AJ Brown really is "nursing” nagging injuries, why is he getting 97% of the offensive snaps?
 

 I get the fact that teams need to focus on him whenever he’s on the field but he shouldn’t be on the field on obvious running downs, etc - especially if he really is a little banged up.

 Risking further injury to Brown so he can be a decoy out there (on obvious running downs)  makes little sense, imo. 

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think they can activate him but they’d have to make a tough decision? Because how much could he realistically contribute? And they’d have to cut someone to reinstate him to the roster.

Probably as much as Huff I’d think🤔 

4 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Carter, Williams and Nolan are all such a force on the line. Even Sweat has been good.

Gotta keep Williams somehow and draft a DE. I'm going to be so mad if they let him go, but I can see it happening.

definitely need some DE's.  Sweat has been good I'm just worried that with that knee his performance is going to fall off a cliff soon.  I think that position needs a revamp and hopefully someone to take huff off our hands.

1 hour ago, DaBirds said:

This is the only thing that worries me. Daniels can pass but picking up first downs with his legs is what keeps them in games. Eagles seem to stink at defending it. 

Gotta be way more disciplined in their rushes than they were last game.  

Unless next week is another all bets are off snow game, the Eagles will have to establish some remote, figment, feint, infinitesimal pretense of a passing game to move the ball next week.  It doesn't even have to be pretty or a good passing game.  But it needs to be a "hey, you need to actually put someone on our 3rd WR and not bite on the run every single time."

Much like they did against the Rams, I expect they'll script in a surprisingly high number of high % simple passing plays early in the game...some short crossers just shy of the sticks underneath the zone, screens, some mobile pocket plays to the TE, etc.  

At the end of the game yesterday I was thinking about the 2017 divisional game against the Falcons. Similar ending where we had to stop the opposing team from getting a touchdown for the win.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If we lost yesterday, I don’t think I would have ever gotten over that safety. Just an all-time bad play by a QB. 

Really?  The dropped AJ pass on a perfect throw, the terrible Becton penalty,  Johnson false start?  None of them elicit the same response?  Hurts ain't great, but he lead that team to what should have been 40 plus points.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Also, if AJ Brown really is "nursing” nagging injuries, why is he getting 97% of the offensive snaps?
 

 I get the fact that teams need to focus on him whenever he’s on the field but he shouldn’t be on the field on obvious running downs, etc - especially if he really is a little banged up.

 Risking further injury to Brown so he can be a decoy out there makes little sense, imo. 

They held him out of a playoff game last year when it was a down to the wire decision so as to not risk further injury.  I'm sure he's banged up, maybe even more than a little...but if he's playing, I'm pretty sure he's OK.

14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yep. Even the 48-yarder was basically a miracle completion. I was impressed with our ability to slow their WR screen game down. I thought we’d get peppered with Nacua screens. 

Yeah the cooper screen was crazy he turned and threw it right at the los and Cooper took off for like 7 yards.

 

I did like the quick passes for hurts yesterday. Was nice to see the screen game and quick slants.

Hurts made several mistakes, but we don't have to pretend he didn't hit AJ right in the hands for a TD right before half. 

AJ also alligator armed another pass that was on target, and then Smitty got the targeting call on another deep completion.  The Hurts stuff is waaaay over the top as usual.  

He's not going to come out like Stafford, throwing 30 yard darts off his back foot. But he's a capable passer and the coaches need to work on helping him get the ball out quickly. 

The coaches also need to get a better feel for the game.  Gainwell and Smitty both looked unaffected by the snow, not many touches.  Kept running to the inside when it's a damn snow storm, get to the outside and away from the mass of bodies stuck in the snow.

 

50 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I even thought the nose of the ball touched the goal line on the 3rd down before his elbow hit. It was CLOSE, but the ball just has to cross the plain, which it did. Thought it should have been looked at again. We're also lucky that Lane false started because the 4th down Tush push wasn't called a TD and I don't know if there was enough evidence showing that it was.

That play call sequence was frustrating as hell though. The pistol runs up the middle were getting stopped and they kept going back to it. The footing wasn't the best, but I would have been happy with 2 or even 3 straight tush pushes. At least with that play, the ball is moving forward from the LOS, not 4 yards behind from the handoff position in the pistol. With the success rate the Eagles have, I would have put my faith in them finding their footing, especially if they went full tush push with Goedert and a RB pushing from the back.

It wasn't called a TD, because the guy who threw the flag for the false start is also the guy in charge of the goal line, and he knew there was no play.   But Hurts was easily over the goal line on that.  Not even a discussion point.  

 

BUT... not going with the Push before 4th down showed the extent of Hurts' knee injury.  They didn't want him to run it.  SO, it makes you wonder if they will work with someone else taking those snaps this week for that purpose.  

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

Really?  The dropped AJ pass on a perfect throw, the terrible Becton penalty,  Johnson false start?  None of them elicit the same response?  Hurts ain't great, but he lead that team to what should have been 40 plus points.

And likely 40-50+ more yards passing and at least 1 TD pass had some players made the plays they are capable of making.   

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

Really?  The dropped AJ pass on a perfect throw, the terrible Becton penalty,  Johnson false start?  None of them elicit the same response?  Hurts ain't great, but that team towed Hurts to what should have been 40 plus points.

FYP

 

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Hurts made several mistakes, but we don't have to pretend he didn't hit AJ right in the hands for a TD right before half. 

AJ also alligator armed another pass that was on target, and then Smitty got the targeting call on another deep completion.  The Hurts stuff is waaaay over the top as usual.  

He's not going to come out like Stafford, throwing 30 yard darts off his back foot. But he's a capable passer and the coaches need to work on helping him get the ball out quickly. 

The coaches also need to get a better feel for the game.  Gainwell and Smitty both looked unaffected by the snow, not many touches.  Kept running to the inside when it's a damn snow storm, get to the outside and away from the mass of bodies stuck in the snow.

 

What part of yesterday and 65 net yards passing gave you "capable passer" vibes?

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It wasn't called a TD, because the guy who threw the flag for the false start is also the guy in charge of the goal line, and he knew there was no play.   But Hurts was easily over the goal line on that.  Not even a discussion point.  

 

BUT... not going with the Push before 4th down showed the extent of Hurts' knee injury.  They didn't want him to run it.  SO, it makes you wonder if they will work with someone else taking those snaps this week for that purpose.  

I still do not understand to this day why they don’t run the tush push with either Barkley or Gainwell.  Both those guys should be able to run it successfully. 

Gainwell has quietly performed at a high level in the playoffs for his role.