Just now, eagle45 said:

FYP

Nah, perfect pass to AJ, perfectly timed and thrown TE screen to Goedert.  Fixed your inability to give credit where due.  Nothing more.  

12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

The NFL needs chips in the ball. The solution is right there and so easy, other sports have it.  Especially when an inch of snow is covering the damn hash marks and yard markers 

I didn’t see enough with the replay to overturn the TD call. I saw the tip of the ball in the white as the forearm touched down. I couldn’t believe it was overturned.

35 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I guess I expected Dotson to be all by himself when Kempski first mentioned it. Maybe Hurts thought the safety could break on the ball?

That is pretty 'wide open' in the NFL.  But, Hurts was on the move, he had unsure footing, I can forgive not making that throw.  They got a gain on that play.  The big question is why did they just ignore the running game as soon as they got to the edge of FG range?  They sacked themselves twice out of FG range (almost 3 times, IIRC, but the sack happened on 2nd down and they ran it to get close enough).  Why not trust the running game to not let that happen?  Weird.  

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Really?  The dropped AJ pass on a perfect throw, the terrible Becton penalty,  Johnson false start?  None of them elicit the same response?  Hurts ain't great, but he lead that team to what should have been 40 plus points.

Mistakes happen frequently like Brown’s drop, a false start in a key spot or an offensive lineman blowing an assignment. Hurts turned down two open players (one really, really, really open player for a big gain) in order to set up a tent and a fire in the end zone. A veteran QB cannot make that mistake ever. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

I still do not understand to this day why they don’t run the tush push with either Barkley or Gainwell.  Both those guys should be able to run it successfully. 

1.  Hurts is good at it.

2.  Everyone will dismiss this, but it's politically challenging.  The tush push is one of the few things Hurts does really well, it stuffs his stats...and pulling him off the field for this team's identity mojo play really loosens Hurts' grip on his value and stature to this team.  It's like pinch hitting your franchise player with runners in scoring position.

3.  The coaches so badly want to dabble in dropping back to pass on fake tush pushes...it usually doesn't go so well, but that could be a dangerous adaptation of the play.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They held him out of a playoff game last year when it was a down to the wire decision so as to not risk further injury.  I'm sure he's banged up, maybe even more than a little...but if he's playing, I'm pretty sure he's OK.

I don’t want them to "hold him out” of games but even if he is slightly banged up, give him some rest on obvious running downs.
 

 He’s obviously been off his game recently so no need to "keep grinding” him.  Maybe a few less snaps here or there can give him some extra rest and a boost when his number is actually called.  Just a thought. 

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Seems like we were begging for stunts and twists like this for years. Glad to have an awesome DC here.

Carter doesn't get enough credit for his pre-snap reads.  He's really good physically, but his mental game is outstanding too.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That is pretty 'wide open' in the NFL.  But, Hurts was on the move, he had unsure footing, I can forgive not making that throw.  They got a gain on that play.  The big question is why did they just ignore the running game as soon as they got to the edge of FG range?  They sacked themselves twice out of FG range (almost 3 times, IIRC, but the sack happened on 2nd down and they ran it to get close enough).  Why not trust the running game to not let that happen?  Weird.  

That’s what I mean. For Jimmy to say he’s wide open is missing some pretty important context. I was expecting a blown coverage. 

On the Lane false start, did Hurts even get in on the tush push? 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What part of yesterday and 65 net yards passing gave you "capable passer" vibes?

You're being so disingenuous with this. Did Hurts pass for 65 yards or more than that?

He should have been up over 200, which is not bad considering two 60 yard runs and Hurts' own 40 yard run.  The Eagles ran for 285 yards on 34 carries.  Clearly, they weren't as one dimensional as you're making it seem, and if they were then it didn't seem to matter a whole helluva lot.

 

Also, I've only seen a couple other people mention this--pass protection has not been very good for a few weeks now.  

The safety was an abomination, but most of those other sacks were pressures right up the middle immediately after the snap.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

1.  Hurts is good at it.

2.  Everyone will dismiss this, but it's politically challenging.  The tush push is one of the few things Hurts does really well, it stuffs his stats...and pulling him off the field for this team's identity mojo play really loosens Hurts' grip on his value and stature to this team.  It's like pinch hitting your franchise player with runners in scoring position.

3.  The coaches so badly want to dabble in dropping back to pass on fake tush pushes...it usually doesn't go so well, but that could be a dangerous adaptation of the play.

That’s all fine and dandy (if true - I doubt some of it is true) 

 

That still does not answer why not have a "backup” playmaker for the tush push.  Another guy to run it ever so often - to keep teams on their toes, etc. 

Words of wisdom from Crosby, Stills and Nash on Jalen Hurts:

"And there's a rose in a fisted glove

And Eagle flies with the dove

And if you can't be with the one you love, honey

Love the one you're with."

Hurts isn't great, but yesterday wasn't a close game because of him.  That game should have been a wrap early 4th with the Eagles up something close to 40-13.  

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

That’s what I mean. For Jimmy to say he’s wide open is missing some pretty important context. I was expecting a blown coverage. 

I mentioned it on here last night but I focused in on Dotson for a bit while at the game. I obviously don’t know the play-call, progressions, timing, etc, but he was getting open a lot. I’ll still stand by he’s a better receiver than his production has shown. It’s either Hurts not getting through the reads or Siri/Moore just neglecting their third WR like Nick’s teams have always done. I’m going with the former though. 

2 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Nah, perfect pass to AJ, perfectly timed and thrown TE screen to Goedert.  Fixed your inability to give credit where due.  Nothing more.  

We've REALLY lowered the bar if those 2 plays are what are being used to defend Hurts play the rest of the game. He was mediocre at best. The throw to AJ Brown was great and it should have been caught, but it's also a throw almost every QB in the NFL can make. 

Being able to complete a screen pass isn't exactly a glowing accomplishment. 

Every week it seems the bar is lowered more and more to say Hurts played well.

He only threw the ball for 150 yards, but least he didn't turn the ball over...He only threw for 120 yards, but at least he didn't turn the ball over. Those are the kinds of things we should be saying if Kenny Pickett had to play extended time. He got us through the game and managed to not turn the ball over. He didn't hurt the team. This is our $250 million QB with top weapons at every position at his expense. 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Mistakes happen frequently like Brown’s drop, a false start in a key spot or an offensive lineman blowing an assignment. Hurts turned down two open players (one really, really, really open player for a big gain) in order to set up a tent and a fire in the end zone. A veteran QB cannot make that mistake ever. 

Don't disagree, but if those other players do their jobs we aren't in that position.   Point being, fine to harp on Hurts but AJ is a $30 million/year receiver, he cannot ever drop that pass in playoffs. Ever. Becton has to know the play and hesitate for a second before releasing.   He went downfield immediately.   Can't do that.  Johnson wiggled, tough moment (they shouldn't have reversed the TD anyway).

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

We've REALLY lowered the bar if those 2 plays are what are being used to defend Hurts play the rest of the game. He was mediocre at best. The throw to AJ Brown was great and it should have been caught, but it's also a throw almost every QB in the NFL can make. 

Being able to complete a screen pass isn't exactly a glowing accomplishment. 

Every week it seems the bar is lowered more and more to say Hurts played well.

He only threw the ball for 150 yards, but least he didn't turn the ball over...He only threw for 120 yards, but at least he didn't turn the ball over. Those are the kinds of things we should be saying if Kenny Pickett had to play extended time. He got us through the game and managed to not turn the ball over. He didn't hurt the team. This is our $250 million QB with top weapons at every position at his expense. 

I repeatedly state Hurts isn't a great QB.  But it wasn't on him that we didn't score 40 plus points yesterday.   That is my stump I'm dying on today.

On the last 2 snaps of the Rams final drive, Carter was late off the snap on both, and the 4th down snap, he just stood up and used his athleticism. Very little technique initially. The kid is a heck of a player.

 

Not to be a broken record, but everyone cycling through the blog at different time points should be exposed to this factoid:

Devonta Smith and AJ Brown have been less productive in the playoffs this year than Thrash and Pinkston have been in any 2 game playoff stretch of their 7 game playoff career together...and it's a fairly large gap too.

41 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I ripped Hurts plenty so I’m not being a Hurts homer, but I think the footing played a role. In normal circumstances he could throw a pass that would flatten Dotson’s route to the sideline and keep the safety out of the play. Maybe he didn’t think that was an option. We saw Nacua have a really bad time trying to track a deep ball because he couldn’t change directions at all. We also saw some out routes die because receivers were turning like tug boats. 

Not to mention the grip on a slick ball probably was an issue when throwing anything deep like that. What normally would've been a D+ game by Hurts, might get bumped to a C- because of the conditions. Still not a good game, but good enough to win under the circumstances. 

18 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

On the Lane false start, did Hurts even get in on the tush push? 

Looked like it

5 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I repeatedly state Hurts isn't a great QB.  But it wasn't on him that we didn't score 40 plus points yesterday.   That is my stump I'm dying on today.

It wasn’t on Hurts.  Other than the safety (which was also a very questionable play call in that situation) most other plays people keep grinding on were either not entirely his fault or his fault at all. 

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Youre trying too hard to place yourself in "the middle" which is not the same as aligning with the truth.

I’m not trying to place myself anywhere…there’s a lot to criticize Hurts for but it’s getting over the top now that we inch closer to a shot at the big dance.   I stated the truth in that post…he’s shown this year that he needs competition for his job.  He’s still the best QB on the roster right now…

7 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

On the last 2 snaps of the Rams final drive, Carter was late off the snap on both, and the 4th down snap, he just stood up and used his athleticism. Very little technique initially. The kid is a heck of a player.

 

Both were perfectly timed swim moves, leaning on hand fighting instead of a brute force bull rush or beating the OL to the spot with a quicker first step. I'd say that was almost all technique actually.

27 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

And likely 40-50+ more yards passing and at least 1 TD pass had some players made the plays they are capable of making.   

Just to be clear since everyone keeps saying AJ dropped a TD, he never reached the end zone.. so I'm not sure how you guys think that catch results in 6 points for us,  or a TD for Hurts stat line. 

Had Hurts thrown the ball correctly instead of the accidental back shoulder,  then it could have been a TD. But,  it wasn't. That's 6 more points Hurts left off the board. 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not to be a broken record, but everyone cycling through the blog at different time points should be exposed to this factoid:

Devonta Smith and AJ Brown have been less productive in the playoffs this year than Thrash and Pinkston have been in any 2 game playoff stretch of their 7 game playoff career together...and it's a fairly large gap too.

Thrash and Pinkston didn’t have Hurts at QB.