59 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I've seen many national analysts say the Eagles weak area is Hurts.  That he is the biggest question mark on the team.  I've seen them say Hurts isn't asked to do much, referring to this year and not 2022.  

So plenty of analysts have mentioned Hurts and his flaws and that he's not the best at throwing, going thru progressions, making decisions, etc.  The same as discussed in here.

When it comes to the Eagles what other hot takes are there?  Sirianni as a coach and that is about it.  AJ and his reading?

 

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I just hope he doesn't start chucking it up all over the place throwing picks because he's "fired up".

Did you use "chucking it up all over the place" and Hurts in the same sentence?  You are gonna make me blush.

6 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

If there was in game injury, maybe they dont want Gates or Toth in there, and feel more comfortable inserting Steen in and moving Dickerson.

Flow-on effects from the Driscoll injury (and exposing Dylan McMahon to waivers earlier this year).

In one of the early home games this year (I can't remember which), I watched Gates during warmups doing shotgun snaps. It was quite the adventure. Multiple snaps went sailing wildly, so much so that it became downright scary thinking he could actually be called upon in a real game.

Flash forward to the season finale against the Giants. Gates played center and naturally several of his snaps were errant. What I had seen earlier in the year was confirmed.

There is NO FREAKING WAY I would want Gates to be playing center the rest of this season. If Jurgens can't play, I think the only reasonable approach would be to put Dickerson at center and Steen at left guard. Even if Gates were able to manage 90% of his shotgun snaps correctly, it's the 10% that can derail scoring drives. The risk is simply too severe. 

TLDR...Gates can't be trusted to execute shotgun snaps.

This afternoon on ESPN, Ian Fitzsimmons said that "It would be the NFL’s worst nightmare if the Commanders were in the (were to win the) Super Bowl.”

I didn’t hear his explanation of why he felt that way.

Strange.

33 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Kiper’s mock today has him going at 22.
Tankathon has him going 20.  
CBS has him going 22
CNN has him available at 31

With that said if the Eagles pick comes up and Coleston Loveland, Walter Nolen, Shemar Stewart, and Landon Jackson are all on the Board, who are you taking?

 

Nolan 1, Stewart 2, pretty easily. Then trade back. I'm not taking a TE in round 1 whatsoever. Jackson to me is more of a 2nd round player. 

 

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

This afternoon on ESPN, Ian Fitzsimmons said that "It would be the NFL’s worst nightmare if the Commanders were in the (were to win the) Super Bowl.”

I didn’t hear his explanation of why he felt that way.

Strange.

I would think the opposite.  The league has a vested interest in seeing the revival of the Washington franchise.  I can only imagine the buzz with a hot Redskin team fresh off a SB breaking ground for a state of the art stadium.

From what I'm seeing on the injury front, seems like the defense has to step up big time and carry the team.  And I think they're up for it.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Jalen struggled to use that left knee to get up after kneeling at the end. Hope he can hold up the next few weeks.

8 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I want to stir the Jalen Hurts pot for a minute here.  

We all know there is a faction where he can do no right.  There is a faction where he can do no wrong.  I have a bone to pick with the moderates here.  And this happens to be the group that most aligns with national media and fans.  This group keeps saying they have concerns about the viability and performance of the "Eagles' passing game."

The *Eagles' passing game* features the best OL in the NFL.  The Eagles' passing game features a WR duo that, prior to this season, anyone around here would argue was the best in the entire NFL.  The Eagles' passing game features a TE that, while injury prone, most around here would argue is elite when he plays.  The Eagles' passing game traded a 3rd round pick for a 1st round pick WR that had more than double his current production in each of his first two NFL seasons.

So when discussing all these concerns with "the Eagles' passing game," why is everyone in this group so afraid to use Jalen Hurts' name?  Are we trying to insinuate that the problem is our OT's?  Or AJ Brown not being a true #1?  Or Devonta is more of a depth WR that shouldn't be starting?  

Why does every single national analyst (and lots of local ones) feel more confident labeling this team's preeminent liability as "the passing game"???  

There are a very few in here that are in denial and there is also some Kellen Moore talk but I think you are missing the angle that most of the moderates are taking which is to look at the entire body of QB play and not just the passing part AND doing that within the context of this particular team.  In the end of the day it is about winning and once the plan changed during the bye week the team has gone 14-1 and with the one loss being when Hurts was injured after playing only the first five minutes.

The scheme itself is no doubt dialed to suit what Hurts can and cannot do.  The big thing he can't do is quickly recognize the coverage and pull the trigger and he has not shown any capacity to consistently hit those curls, etc. in timing routes.  Compounding the issue is that he often holds the ball so long that it results in an unnecessary sack.  Those issues limit what the O can do in a significant way.

However, there are other parts of Hurts' game where he is quite effective.  For example, his deep ball is really really good and he can beat man coverage regularly with back shoulder passes and quick slants.  Further, his running ability, calm demeanor, and toughness/leadership are all strong positives.  He is also very good in the 4-min drill.  Packaging those skills together and limiting exposure to Hurts' weaker parts has been the key to success for the team.

Bottom line, Hurts has shown to be an excellent game manager by not turning the ball over and by keeping things singularly focused on what he does well, winning.

 

So do we think the team are just being uber cautious with Jurgens and Goedert? Or do we think there’s a real risk that they could miss the game?

33 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So do we think the team are just being uber cautious with Jurgens and Goedert? Or do we think there’s a real risk that they could miss the game?

Really hope they are just being cautious, especially with Jurgens.  We do NOT want to move two positions on the OL and we do not want a new person delivering all those shotgun snaps.

 

 

So Jayden Daniels wore a Mcnabb Jersey growing up and he wears #5. Now he has to play us, this is wild.  

 

33 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Really hope they are just being cautious, especially with Jurgens.  We do NOT want to move two positions on the OL and we do not want a new person delivering all those shotgun snaps.

Don't think it is honestly anything....man you guys work yourselves up into a lather!  Hurts off his concussion "Someone saw him dead, being buried and will never play football again!".  Q "No way he's going to play, his arm was only hanging on by a tendon!!" Jurgens "He must have Legionnaires Disease because he has been held our of practice!!!"

Just relax.....Quinyon, Hurts, Cam will all be fine for the game.  Now....you want to tell me Dallas was put down this week due to a hangnail...that I may believe!

 

Payne and Wagner both DNP all week so far, but no mention of that.

I do suspect that all these guys will play, but the Eagles are practicing their contingency plan in case Cam misses any snaps.

Seems like a pretty reasonable thing to do

Do we still do predictions around here? If so I'm going with Wash 35-33 Eagles

6 minutes ago, greend said:

Do we still do predictions around here? If so I'm going with Wash 35-33 Eagles

Matt hasn’t done them since around week 4. 

3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

There are a very few in here that are in denial and there is also some Kellen Moore talk but I think you are missing the angle that most of the moderates are taking which is to look at the entire body of QB play and not just the passing part AND doing that within the context of this particular team.  In the end of the day it is about winning and once the plan changed during the bye week the team has gone 14-1 and with the one loss being when Hurts was injured after playing only the first five minutes.

The scheme itself is no doubt dialed to suit what Hurts can and cannot do.  The big thing he can't do is quickly recognize the coverage and pull the trigger and he has not shown any capacity to consistently hit those curls, etc. in timing routes.  Compounding the issue is that he often holds the ball so long that it results in an unnecessary sack.  Those issues limit what the O can do in a significant way.

However, there are other parts of Hurts' game where he is quite effective.  For example, his deep ball is really really good and he can beat man coverage regularly with back shoulder passes and quick slants.  Further, his running ability, calm demeanor, and toughness/leadership are all strong positives.  He is also very good in the 4-min drill.  Packaging those skills together and limiting exposure to Hurts' weaker parts has been the key to success for the team.

Bottom line, Hurts has shown to be an excellent game manager by not turning the ball over and by keeping things singularly focused on what he does well, winning.

Not a "moderate" post. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So do we think the team are just being uber cautious with Jurgens and Goedert? Or do we think there’s a real risk that they could miss the game?

Super cautious

I would be stunned if Jurgens/Goedert don't play, but Jurgens was bad vs. the Rams. His injury is probably legit. A bad back for a C is rough. 

1 hour ago, NYEagle said:

Don't think it is honestly anything....man you guys work yourselves up into a lather!  Hurts off his concussion "Someone saw him dead, being buried and will never play football again!".  Q "No way he's going to play, his arm was only hanging on by a tendon!!" Jurgens "He must have Legionnaires Disease because he has been held our of practice!!!"

Just relax.....Quinyon, Hurts, Cam will all be fine for the game.  Now....you want to tell me Dallas was put down this week due to a hangnail...that I may believe!

 

Dude - I'm not a person that pushed any of that nonsense out there.  I simply stated that we don't want to see Jurgens miss the game.  We definitely don't and no one has any idea whether he is in real danger of missing the game or not since we have no idea what happened to him.  On the other hand, Hurts and Q are playing for sure.

53 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not a "moderate" post. 

Thought you said you were taking a break on this subject.

41 minutes ago, RLC said:

I would be stunned if Jurgens/Goedert don't play, but Jurgens was bad vs. the Rams. His injury is probably legit. A bad back for a C is rough. 

He had issues vs GB too....getting Landon in there is smart.

They can't let a game get wrecked with interior pressure.