Someone here called it. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

 

Wish he was starting 

13 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This team is missing Stoll and then Uzamah in the run game.

Defenses are sending extra guys in from the edges and they are getting into the backfield early.

Stoll, 100%.

Uzomah was awful in the 2nd Commanders game run blocking.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Those are impressive players without impressive numbers. Overall career numbers will be paltry compared to what they could/should have been. You may be ok with wasting their careers, but I really feel for those guys being stuck on this team. I hope they do at least get their super bowls, but thats far from guaranteed, and this QB not maximizing their talent only makes it less likely. Without super bowls, their careers will be extremely forgettable. 

If AJ keeps his average and plays all 17 games he ends up 3rd in the league for receiving.  Devonta ends 15th having played all 17 games with the same per game average.

Not too bad given they had a 2000yd rusher on their team.

 

12 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

AJ had over 1000yds and 7 TDs in 13 games

Devonta had 833yds and 8 TDs in 13 games

The team has won 14 of the last 15 and has a home NFC Championship game against a wild card team to go to their 2nd SB in 3 years.

Of course I wish they had more yards/TDs but I'm perfectly ok with what the WRs have been able to do this year given the context and there is no waste about it whatsoever.

....and the team just had a RB run for 2005 yards.  I'm not sure how anyone can complain about getting close to 4000 yards from your two WR's and RB. 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Someone here called it. 

Inspired.

1 minute ago, Miami said:

Inspired.

Hope it rubs off on Hurts and he has one of his good games

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

 

A lot wrong with this post.

First of all, the game manager's job is to win, period.  The entire point is that they do only what that they need to do to win given the team that they have.  That's the very nature of the role.  His W/L record speaks for itself.  Second, you are in the tiny tiny minority (does anyone else share your opinion on this one at all?  certainly not any of the neutral pundits) in saying Hurts doesn't have a nice deep ball.  I'll accept that you have a right to have that opinion but you are about the only one out there.

note: You left out the slants

It is not HIS W/L record.... another disingenuous Hurts defense. 

Again, "neutral" isnt necessarily neutral if you are basing the middle on the actual truth. Neutral in your mind is where you want it to be, which in reality is a bit biased towards blind Hurts defense.

And I already prefaced that point about the deep ball because I have long noticed many people here with the lack of perception nuance when it comes to this. 

I didnt leave out slants. You asked me to tell you what wasnt true about what you said. 

11 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Someone here called it. 

I did. Said it made sense cause it’ll send the crowd into a frenzy and it was the perfect time. Couldn’t wait til the Super Bowl to use him. I also figured if they made the Super Bowl then they’d likely use kelce, Jenkins or cox 

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

If AJ keeps his average and plays all 17 games he ends up 3rd in the league for receiving.  Devonta ends 15th having played all 17 games with the same per game average.

Not too bad given they had a 2000yd rusher on their team.

 

Dont compare AJ to other people. Compare AJ to what you think he is capable of. 

Smith, even compared to others is pathetically lower than it should be. Worse when you compare to what he is capable of. 

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Building the team around Barkley is trouble because you just dont know when the cliff, or the injury hits. Hard to imagine a fall off next year considering how dominant he is. But still, 1 injury away from having nothing left on offense if you deplete the WR talent.

Definitely not trying to build around Barkley. This year was an anomaly for him. Anyone who expects this two years in a row (and im not talking about his production), is crazy. If AJ has long term knee concerns and you can get a haul for him, assuming we win it all this year, I’m fielding offers. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It is not HIS W/L record.... another disingenuous Hurts defense. 

Again, "neutral" isnt necessarily neutral if you are basing the middle on the actual truth. Neutral in your mind is where you want it to be, which in reality is a bit biased towards blind Hurts defense.

And I already prefaced that point about the deep ball because I have long noticed many people here with the lack of perception nuance when it comes to this. 

I didnt leave out slants. You asked me to tell you what wasnt true about what you said. 

Yet you said the only thing that was good was the running and yet didn't mention the slants.

As for the deep balls, I'm not going to discuss it further with you.  I'll just finish by saying that nearly everyone else out there disagrees with you.  Pick your national or local expert (not posters) and they will either all disagree with you or 90% will disagree.  The likelihood that you are right and I'm wrong on that point is slim to nill.

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

....and the team just had a RB run for 2005 yards.  I'm not sure how anyone can complain about getting close to 4000 yards from your two WR's and RB. 

If the ultimate goal is the super bowl, then it is nearly guaranteed if the talent of ALL skill players on offense is maximized. If the goal is super bowl, you shouldnt be happy with sacrificing contributions from elite players. You should be wanting more. 

Your goal is to defend Jalen Hurts. Its the only way what you are saying makes any sense. 

If you keep the main thing the main thing, and want a super bowl, stop saying its good enough. Right now they are just doing just enough to win. Thats a risky way to make a living. Why dont you want them to just dominate? Makes winning even more likely. Winning is the goal, so making it as likely as possible should be the goal. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

If you keep the main thing the main thing, and want a super bowl, stop saying its good enough. Right now they are just doing just enough to win. Thats a risky way to make a living. Why dont you want them to just dominate? Makes winning even more likely. Winning is the goal, so making it as likely as possible should be the goal. 

They went 14-3 in the regular season.
They're in the NFCCG.

They are keeping the main thing the main thing.

2 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Definitely not trying to build around Barkley. This year was an anomaly for him. Anyone who expects this two years in a row (and im not talking about his production), is crazy. If AJ has long term knee concerns and you can get a haul for him, assuming we win it all this year, I’m fielding offers. 

Im not concerned about the Knee. It seems pretty clear that it was injured during that hip drop tackle. So it looks like an accute injury that he has played through rather than some chronic, or degenerative thing.

Id rather not downgrade the WR positions. In the event that Barkley loses effectiveness or availability, we need to have the resources available for Hurts to try to figure out how to pass.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dont compare AJ to other people. Compare AJ to what you think he is capable of. 

Smith, even compared to others is pathetically lower than it should be. Worse when you compare to what he is capable of. 

That's a totally ridiculous take.  All we do is compare players to other players, teams to other teams, coaches to other coaches, etc.  At least the Hurts discussion has lots of gray and subjective opinion to it.  This one is completely obvious.

Smith at 15 with AJ and a 2000yd Saquon on the roster is still solid. Top 15 #1 WR numbers in a year where there just aren't enough balls to go around.

Take the L here mate.  I know you won't so go ahead and make a last weak attempt.  I won't respond further on this topic either.

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It is not HIS W/L record.... another disingenuous Hurts defense. 

Again, "neutral" isnt necessarily neutral if you are basing the middle on the actual truth. Neutral in your mind is where you want it to be, which in reality is a bit biased towards blind Hurts defense.

And I already prefaced that point about the deep ball because I have long noticed many people here with the lack of perception nuance when it comes to this. 

I didnt leave out slants. You asked me to tell you what wasnt true about what you said. 

It IS his W/L record. All the other stuff is eye candy. Style points.

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yet you said the only thing that was good was the running and yet didn't mention the slants.

As for the deep balls, I'm not going to discuss it further with you.  I'll just finish by saying that nearly everyone else out there disagrees with you.  Pick your national or local expert (not posters) and they will either all disagree with you or 90% will disagree.  The likelihood that you are right and I'm wrong on that point is slim to nill.

what makes Hurts good at slants?

Getting open that quickly, knowing how to box out the defender, caching a high velocity ball from a short distance away, focusing on the catch while you are headed towards LBs in the middle of the field... all WR skills.

Making a very close range throw.... very basic skill every QB should be able to do. Why are we supposed to heap praise upon Hurts for being able to complete slants? What makes HIM good at it?

If we start praising him for doing things everyone does I guess you can praise his morning dump too. 

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

That's a totally ridiculous take.  All we do is compare players to other players, teams to other teams, coaches to other coaches, etc.  At least the Hurts discussion has lots of gray and subjective opinion to it.  This one is completely obvious.

Smith at 15 with AJ and a 2000yd Saquon on the roster is still solid. Top 15 #1 WR numbers in a year where there just aren't enough balls to go around.

Take the L here mate.  I know you won't so go ahead and make a last weak attempt.  I won't respond further on this topic either.

Its not ridiculous at all. You just dont like it because youd have to admit Hurts is falling short of expectations and basically ruining these guys careers. 

If they were doing what they were capable of doing, then when you compare them to other players theyd be leaps and bounds ahead of them. Not 3rd, and 15th. 

13 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

I trust your opinion on football. Something I just thought about is with them being in shotgun so much I hope having someone rusty at snapping the ball doesn't have too many bad snaps.

That is a concern, especially with how often they use shotgun.  Which is one of the reasons that I am not a huge fan of going to the shotgun as seemingly the ONLY formation we use.  

BUT... Dickerson played center at Alabama as a senior, and they ran primarily out of shotgun as well... like so many colleges do nowadays.   So, I don't think it will be that hard for him to get back into the swing of it.   AND, he can work on snapping the ball on the side any time he wishes, he doesn't need the entire team lined up.  He can literally set up the field goal net and just fire snap after snap after snap into it.  The hard part isn't really the snap... the harder part is making a good snap while simultaneously getting into position to make the block needed.   Most bad snaps are more about what else the center has to deal with than just the ball placement.  

 

That said, I still prefer Dickerson at C and Steen inserted into the game than any other option for a playoff game like this.  Get your best 5 on the field.  Jimmies and Joes are needed to win the game, not just X's and O's. 

5 minutes ago, just relax said:

It IS his W/L record. All the other stuff is eye candy. Style points.

You are literally arguing that more yards and TDs wouldnt help now. 

W/L is a team stat. Not HIS record. Their record. Normally QB has a lot to do with it, but ours should be thanking the rest of the team for bringing him along. He is the bottleneck. 

Another boring Hurts debate...while we're on the eve of the NFCCG.

Yippee

1 minute ago, Parrot Head said:

Another boring Hurts debate...while we're on the eve of the NFCCG.

Yippee

No we are not. They play Sunday. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

No we are not. They play Sunday. 

Even more time for your boring debate.