1 minute ago, Parrot Head said:

Even more time for your boring debate.

If people would stop being wrong, Id have less to correct.

Its not really a debate. 

Greatest Eagle ever. BDN! 

30 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

AJ had over 1000yds and 7 TDs in 13 games

Devonta had 833yds and 8 TDs in 13 games

The team has won 14 of the last 15 and has a home NFC Championship game against a wild card team to go to their 2nd SB in 3 years.

Of course I wish they had more yards/TDs but I'm perfectly ok with what the WRs have been able to do this year given the context and there is no waste about it whatsoever.

That's where the disconnect seems to be with fans. There are ones that are okay as long as we win. That's fine because they are allowed to feel that way

Then there are fans that feel different. They apparently are not allowed to feel this way

There's a bunch of fan police this season. Especially into the playoffs

12 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

In one of the early home games this year (I can't remember which), I watched Gates during warmups doing shotgun snaps. It was quite the adventure. Multiple snaps went sailing wildly, so much so that it became downright scary thinking he could actually be called upon in a real game.

Flash forward to the season finale against the Giants. Gates played center and naturally several of his snaps were errant. What I had seen earlier in the year was confirmed.

There is NO FREAKING WAY I would want Gates to be playing center the rest of this season. If Jurgens can't play, I think the only reasonable approach would be to put Dickerson at center and Steen at left guard. Even if Gates were able to manage 90% of his shotgun snaps correctly, it's the 10% that can derail scoring drives. The risk is simply too severe. 

TLDR...Gates can't be trusted to execute shotgun snaps.

Derail scoring drives, or even turn into turnovers.

21 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Wish he was starting 

Wish the 2017 version of him was playing.  He had that RPO stuff down pat.  It’s what they pivoted to after a couple shaky starts after Wentz down.  That hot version of Foles (because let’s not pretend he was always hot), Barkley and these WRs would win by 28 points.

 

 

4 hours ago, greend said:

Do we still do predictions around here? If so I'm going with Wash 35-33 Eagles

As it should be.

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The extreme run-heavy approach hasn’t been prioritized throughout the entire season, though. In the first four weeks—when Philly went just 2-2—the Eagles passed the ball more frequently. The Eagles ranked 20th in rush rate in the first halves of their September games. They used Hurts more prominently as a passer—until he had 11 turnover-worthy plays in September. This was unusual for a quarterback who had previously been a solid decision-maker in college and early in his NFL career. It appeared to unsettle the Eagles, leading them to heavily prioritize the run game.

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Hurts has cut down on his mistakes—he’s had just seven turnover-worthy plays in the past 13 games—but the sack rate has reached an alarming level. Sacks often kill drives and are under-discussed relative to turnovers in NFL discourse. On Sunday, the Rams sacked Hurts seven times total: twice on plays that took potential points off the board and backed the offense out of field goal range.

https://www.theringer.com/2025/01/23/nfl/jalen-hurts-philadelphia-eagles-nfl-2024-25-playoffs-pass-offense-questions

29 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

 

A lot wrong with this post.

First of all, the game manager's job is to win, period.  The entire point is that they do only what that they need to do to win given the team that they have.  That's the very nature of the role.  His W/L record speaks for itself.  Second, you are in the tiny tiny minority (does anyone else share your opinion on this one at all?  certainly not any of the neutral pundits) in saying Hurts doesn't have a nice deep ball.  I'll accept that you have a right to have that opinion but you are about the only one out there.

note: You left out the slants

I'm a little exhausted from going after Hurts.  All I want is another SB, and I don't care how we get it.  I do believe he used to have an elite deep ball.  2022 was the perfect example.  He had multiple games where he was throwing long balls on a string to AJ Brown.  However, I think it has regressed quite a bit since then.  He typically always underthrows Devonta because of his lack of arm strength, he recognizes everything way too late, and Devonta is constantly held up and has to slow down on deep routes.  His jump ball to Devonta this past game (that he should have caught) and got clobbered was definitely underthrown, and I don't believe he was trying to hit AJ Brown on a back shoulder at all.  He at least recognized the 1:1 coverage and trusted the superstar to just go get it.  

Here's to hoping he chokes like McNabb too in NFC Championship Games.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

what makes Hurts good at slants?

Getting open that quickly, knowing how to box out the defender, caching a high velocity ball from a short distance away, focusing on the catch while you are headed towards LBs in the middle of the field... all WR skills.

Making a very close range throw.... very basic skill every QB should be able to do. Why are we supposed to heap praise upon Hurts for being able to complete slants? What makes HIM good at it?

If we start praising him for doing things everyone does I guess you can praise his morning dump too. 

Sorry, I'll respond one last time.

Yeah, slants should be easy throws for every NFL QB.  Alas, they are not and for a variety of reasons and circumstances.  That one is a tiny item in any case and all good QBs can make those throws. Well, the vast majority anyway.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Ahh...good ole MLFootball! 

Hey the Eagles are the LONE FAVORITES to land Max Crosby in a trade for the Raiders DE. Can my pipe dreams=rumors?

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

It is a very meh WR class 

I wouldn’t trade AJ Brown. He’s not easily replaceable. Ask the titans. He is a top 5 wr in the league. Even the draft picks you’d get doesn’t mean you automatically replacing him. Frankly, his contract makes it not even a viable option next year.

But since Jalen hurts became the starter in 2021 his record without AJ Brown (injured or not here in 2021) is 9-11 including playoffs. With aj brown his record is 40-9 including playoffs. This season it’s 13-1. One loss is when hurts got knocked out early vs. commanders. our last 4 games without AJ with hurts at Qb we are 1-3 and averaging 15.3 ppg 

2 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I'm a little exhausted from going after Hurts.  All I want is another SB, and I don't care how we get it.  I do believe he used to have an elite deep ball.  2022 was the perfect example.  He had multiple games where he was throwing long balls on a string to AJ Brown.  However, I think it has regressed quite a bit since then.  He typically always underthrows Devonta because of his lack of arm strength, he recognizes everything way too late, and Devonta is constantly held up and has to slow down on deep routes.  His jump ball to Devonta this past game (that he should have caught) and got clobbered was definitely underthrown, and I don't believe he was trying to hit AJ Brown on a back shoulder at all.  He at least recognized the 1:1 coverage and trusted the superstar to just go get it.  

It was a tough day to throw.  Look at the deep balls Stafford thru.  They too were a bit floaty. The one to Puka had to be but the other two weren't good throws just great catches.

There is no doubt that Hurts was reeled in during the bye week and just simply doesn't take many of those shots anymore.  A lot of that is because Hurts threw too many INTs which is all on him.  The other part is that the coaches recognized that the team had a great chance to win if they just used Hurts as a game manager and here we are one win away from booking a trip to N'Orleans.  I see all of his weaknesses and yet for this team right now he does what we need him to do.  In two years, I expect things to change.

23 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I prefer everyone picking against them than everyone picking them.

On top of all the other reasons, we'd have to take a $31.6mm dead cap hit to trade AJ. It's never happening. 

39 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Wish he was starting 

Just make him the honrary QB 

I get that they're winning but the wins could be more comfortable and decisive if hurts was just average. Only 6 points off 2 turnovers including one returned inside the 10(?)...smh 

Something I don't think I've heard anyone talk about is how JD will play in the cold.  He's from southern California, went to college at Arizona and LSU.  His two playoff wins were in a dome and in Tampa.  This will probably be the coldest football game he's ever played in.  Is this overblown or could this be a factor?  

 

Jalen never gets this energy

2 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Something I don't think I've heard anyone talk about is how JD will play in the cold.  He's from southern California, went to college at Arizona and LSU.  His two playoff wins were in a dome and in Tampa.  This will probably be the coldest football game he's ever played in.  Is this overblown or could this be a factor?  

 

Don't think it will be that cold. Mid to low 30s. I'm sure they are practicing outside all week as well 

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

On top of all the other reasons, we'd have to take a $31.6mm dead cap hit to trade AJ. It's never happening. 

I could see it if he was a problem but even with the drop in targets there has been no drama since that one time where there apparently was miscommunication between him and reporters 

9 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Something I don't think I've heard anyone talk about is how JD will play in the cold.  He's from southern California, went to college at Arizona and LSU.  His two playoff wins were in a dome and in Tampa.  This will probably be the coldest football game he's ever played in.  Is this overblown or could this be a factor?  

 

It won't be that cold.  Roughly 45 degrees at kickoff.

45 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

AJ had over 1000yds and 7 TDs in 13 games

Devonta had 833yds and 8 TDs in 13 games

The team has won 14 of the last 15 and has a home NFC Championship game against a wild card team to go to their 2nd SB in 3 years.

Of course I wish they had more yards/TDs but I'm perfectly ok with what the WRs have been able to do this year given the context and there is no waste about it whatsoever.

I wrote a LONG post about the WR investment vs output earlier in the week. Those numbers might look nice, and it's because both of those guys are great WR. They are putting up those numbers while being in the low 20s/high30s in targets per game. If you look at targets per game, you can eliminate the fact that both missed 4 games. We can adjust those numbers to 17 games played, but you have to do so on targets and catchers per target. 

We beg and beg for good WR and finally have a top 3 and a top 10 WR in the NFL and we don't even look their way. Right now, AJ is getting 7.5 targets, down from 9.3 last year. DeVonta Smith is at 6.8, down from 7 last year so his workload is similar. 

The bar has been so incredibly low for our QB to the point where people are OK with him throwing for 120 yards as long as he doesn't turn the ball over.  

I watched the Eagle Eye Podcast last night and the first question was in a nutshell "why are we talking about negative stuff when Jalen had to play in the snow and they won?" Zangaro mentioned they had lots of questions sharing the same sentiment. Basically, how dare you criticize Jalen Hurts! 

We should expect great players to play great. To point out flaws is OK. To criticize is OK. If you continually ignore performance issues and lower expectations, the results will be complacency. 

 

 

30 minutes ago, McMVP said:

Wish the 2017 version of him was playing.  He had that RPO stuff down pat.  It’s what they pivoted to after a couple shaky starts after Wentz down.  That hot version of Foles (because let’s not pretend he was always hot), Barkley and these WRs would win by 28 points.

 

Well, let's hope Hurts turns into the Hurts that can play well.

12 minutes ago, RLC said:

Jalen never gets this energy

Probably because Josh Allen is leading, carrying a roster of decent and pretty good players towards a Super Bowl appearance, while Jalen Hurts is a passenger and surrounded by Pro Bowl and All Pro talent.