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EMB Blog: 2024 Regular Season (Part 2) ... and Playoffs

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9 minutes ago, paco said:

It's still around? :unsure: 

I'm not sure gramps. You tell me

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Eh...this isn't great

 

2 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

That sounds toasty compared to the last couple weeks.

Yup.

2 minutes ago, Eagles_ftw said:

Only problem is that this is all Redskins gear, they're not called the Redskins anymore 

They are in my mind

Just now, vikas83 said:

Eh...this isn't great

 

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8 minutes ago, Eagles_ftw said:

Only problem is that this is all Redskins gear, they're not called the Redskins anymore 

But they updated the sign... HTTC, rather than HTTR.    And these cheap basturds didn't bother to update their gear to the new lame name.  :nonono: 

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Eh...this isn't great

 

It’s literally the only thing I’m worried about for this game

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

If you have a chance to take the lead in the 4th quarter, you take it unless it is 4th and 1 and you can sneak it as well as we do.

Depends. How much time's on the clock and what's my field position? If there's more than 5 min left, it's 4th and goal from the 3, and I'm down by 1 pt, then that's a no-brainer for me: Go for it. If I don't convert, the other team is backed up in their own end, and the likelihood of them punting prior to them getting into FG position is much higher than if they were starting at their own 30 after a touchback.

So in that case, I should get the ball back with enough time to hopefully get into FG range one last time. It can be kind of a 2-for-1 deal if you have enough timeouts and don't let the other team drain too much clock by picking up 3 first downs. The one flaw in a lot of the 4th down bots used to be that they didnt account for time left on the clock, they only factored in score, down and distance, and field position. But "playing for the last shot" should always be a consideration in the algorithm (if they still aren't doing so), i.e. apply some weighting to the likelihood of maximizing TOP in the last 5 min of the game.

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Eh...this isn't great

 

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Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Depends.

Sorry, bud. We're all getting older.  No shame.  

22 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Eagles win every single time i eat a cheese steak on game day. Not sure how much it works but, they didnt win the 2022 super bowl and i didnt have a cheese steak so do with that what you will 

Make sure to squeeze a healthy amount of cheese whiz into your dirtstar when you're finished the cheesesteak.  That should nudge the Eagles across the finish line, John "Eats too much" Candy!  

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Please remember to slide

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Depends. How much time's on the clock and what's my field position? If there's more than 5 min left, it's 4th and goal from the 3, and I'm down by 1 pt, then that's a no-brainer for me: Go for it. If I don't convert, the other team is backed up in their own end, and the likelihood of them punting prior to them getting into FG position is much higher than if they were starting at their own 30 after a touchback.

So in that case, I should get the ball back with enough time to hopefully get into FG range one last time. It can be kind of a 2-for-1 deal if you have enough timeouts and don't like the other team drain too much clock by picking up 3 first downs. The one flaw in a lot of the 4th down bots used to be that they didnt account for time left on the clock, they only factored in score, down and distance, and field position. But "playing for the last shot" should always be a consideration in the algorithm (if they still aren't doing so), i.e. apply some weighting to the likelihood of maximizing TOP in the last 5 min of the game.

4th and goal inside the 5 I understand. 4th and 2 at the 26, down 2 with 8 minutes left? You kick the damn FG. It was a Campbell level of idiocy.

 

Question for anyone… I see a few people posting pictures as response to posts, but sometimes I see this (below).  Is there some sort of filter on my phone (iPhone) that’s preventing me from seeing these images?

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Decided to try and find some details on how our defense handles 4th downs. My sense was we are pretty good on 4th and short, and the numbers back it up.

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 Per NFL Pro, the Eagles are 3rd in the league in defensive EPA per Play on 4th & short (where "short” is defined as 1-2 yards), at -0.69 EPA Per Play in these situations. They rank 4th on rushing attempts (-0.46 EPA/play) and 8th on passing attempts (-0.97 EPA/play).


 

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/1/9/24339731/green-bay-packers-analysis-how-to-attack-the-eagles-on-4th-down

 

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

Probably shouldn't play 1 more year if it's not here.  Pretty tough to go out playing this will. 

New team. New culture, probably not as enjoyable a here. New defense to learn. New fans, won't be a appreciative/ forgiving if his age starts showing. Probably not a likely to contend for a super bowl.

Risk injury for what?

If he isn't playing here next year just go out on the top of your game.

Just now, vikas83 said:

4th and goal inside the 5 I understand. 4th and 2 at the 26, down 2 with 8 minutes left? You kick the damn FG. It was a Campbell level of idiocy.

Oddly enough, a plot of win probability is not linear when deciding to go for it. It's higher as you near the goal line, as expected, but for something like a 4th and 2, I think it bottoms out somewhere around where you're saying (roughly between the 20 and 30), but it actually starts to rise again as you get further out like between the 40 and 50, before dropping again once the potential net gain in field position from a punt isn't as limited by the possibility of a touchback. I'll see if I can dig up a graph of it when I get a chance.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oddly enough, a plot of win probability is not linear when deciding to go for it. It's higher as you near the goal line, as expected, but for something like a 4th and 2, I think it bottoms out somewhere around where you're saying (roughly between the 20 and 30), but it actually starts to rise again as you get further out like between the 40 and 50, before dropping again once the potential net gain in field position from a punt isn't as limited by the possibility of a touchback. I'll see if I can dig up a graph of it when I get a chance.

That makes sense as a long field goal, the odds drop. Between the 40 and 50, 4th and 2 is a definite go for it. But passing on a 44 yard field goal? Unless you have a terrible kicker, that's a no brainer to kick it.

Slay's been a great Eagle. This is the right decision, but I'll miss him. 

This isn't the one I had in mind, but it's more or less conveying the same dynamic I was referring to with the "break even" points based on field position.

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2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Probably shouldn't play 1 more year if it's not here.  Pretty tough to go out playing this will. 

New team. New culture, probably not as enjoyable a here. New defense to learn. New fans, won't be a appreciative/ forgiving if his age starts showing. Probably not a likely to contend for a super bowl.

Risk injury for what?

If he isn't playing here next year just go out on the top of your game.

I wonder if he'd be willing to redo his deal and play for less next year to finish in Philly. 0% chance we pay him a $16mm option bonus for 2025. Cut that in half and play for like $9.5mm (salary, workout bonus, reduced option bonus)? That could work for both sides as I don't think he'd do better than that on the open market given his age.

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

So if he can't run...........

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