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1 minute ago, MF POON said:

Hurts wouldn't be a HOF, but neither would Allen, Lamar, Burrow, Herbert, or Mayfield. 

 

No crap stupid :roll:

That's the point. Duh! :lol:

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19 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

I really appreciate that sentiment, I do however want to clarify that I am no hero. I did serve in the USMC, but I never deployed to a theater of operation, I never had to spend long periods of time away from my family. Those who had to face those things and much more challenging situations are the heroes. It's important to me that my service isn't overly celebrated, there are many, many more soldiers and even other Americans deserving of those accolades. 

I appreciate the humility.   My dad was in the USAF during Vietnam, and he also never was deployed to an active theater of operation, but not for lack of trying.  He was stationed in Montana, and wanted to go to Vietnam... so he put in for a transfer to Libya, thinking that being closer to the theater would get him shipped over sooner.  Two weeks after he got to Libya, he gets a letter from an old buddy from the Montana base... the whole unit was just informed that they had orders to go to Vietnam.  My dad was crushed.

But, to me, it isn't about where you served, but that you served.  We can have different degrees of hero, but putting on the uniform illustrates a certain level of self-sacrifice for the sake of others.  And it's worth celebrating.  So, thank you (and so many others like you) for your service.   

I was USAF ROTC for 2 years in college.  After those years I decided to take my life in a different direction and go into the teaching profession, very different from what I had been planning to do in the USAF.  At times though, I have wondered if I should have stayed in the ROTC or not and served a few years before I went to the private sector to teach. But, by that time I was dating my future wife, and things just changed.  As such, I might have a slightly different view of those who serve, no matter where it is, than others might.  I have a few friends who are serving in various capacities with the army.  One helicopter pilot, one nurse, and one doctor, all went via ROTC.   My friend who is the doctor just finished his board exams and is now a full fledged M.D. 

16 minutes ago, B3 said:

I mean, they may never actually get there.  Saquon will just run right through it on his way to 4 TDs.

He might have to stop at the 10 for a selfie to prove he was there on one of them.

 

29 minutes ago, Joe Ball said:

I really appreciate that sentiment, I do however want to clarify that I am no hero. I did serve in the USMC, but I never deployed to a theater of operation, I never had to spend long periods of time away from my family. Those who had to face those things and much more challenging situations are the heroes. It's important to me that my service isn't overly celebrated, there are many, many more soldiers and even other Americans deserving of those accolades. 

Semper Fi!

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

No crap stupid :roll:

That's the point. Duh! :lol:

Again, I don't think you get the point of the comparison.  It really is just to show that Hurts is being underappreciated and overly criticized by the media/fans.  

and yeah, I'm about to add you to the ignore list right now. Good day to ya

 

 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

There have been some hilarious replies to him. Saw some saying to post a pic with a bong mask. Another saying to act like a complete jerk in all interviews :lol:

Just now, MF POON said:

Again, I don't think you get the point of the comparison.  It really is just to show that Hurts is being underappreciated and overly criticized by the media/fans.  

and yeah, I'm about to add you to the ignore list right now. Good day to ya

And you still doing get it. Please add me to your ignore list already :roll:

24 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

No but using total stats during a comparing isn't telling the truth

I agree they should separate the passing yards and rushing yards to show the full picture.  Both are relevant but they are better broken out.

They can also remove all QB sneak TDs both old school and tush push.  That would make the TD numbers change a good bit in Mahomes favor but I think that would be a fairer stat comparison.

17 minutes ago, MF POON said:


Again, your argument is a dumb one.  Using total stats is fair and shows just how many TD's each QB accounted for.  I don't really care if a QB throws for less TDs when he's sneaking/running them in instead.   A 5-10 yd TD pass isn't more impressive than a tush push or rushing TD in my book.  

Lastly, I don't think anyone believes Hurts is better than Mahomes.  The stat comparison simply shows that Hurts accounts for about the same level of productivity, but he just does it differently.  If you're too much of a hater or not objective enough to realize that, so be it.

 

You have a good point there, nobody seems to complain about shovel passes which are basically a handoff (and Mahomes has tons of those). There are very impressive 5-yard passes in the end zone though. Or there are brotherly shoves preceded by a very good pass, for example, the tying TD in our previous SB when Smitty ran out of bounds after a great throw by Hurts. 

Every score is different and I support the idea of counting total TDs. 

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

Can't believe that idiot extended Jake for 4 years and signed Bryce Huff and Matt Hennessy :nonono:

Howie gets a C. 

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I agree they should separate the passing yards and rushing yards to show the full picture.  Both are relevant but they are better broken out.

They can also remove all QB sneak TDs both old school and tush push.  That would make the TD numbers change a good bit in Mahomes favor but I think that would be a fairer stat comparison.

Agreed

3 hours ago, judunno said:

Just remembered that we went into the last Superbowl vs the Chiefs with Kenny Gainwell, Boston Scott, and a banged up Miles Sanders. I'm excited.

In addition, the defense is better now. Notably, in 2022 the defense was 8th in points, now they are 2nd. And this defense creates more turnovers.

In the playoffs, the Eagles have 10 takeaways and zero offensive turnovers. Expect the Eagles defense to create turnovers which will be huge.

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

This has 0% chance of happening unfortunately.

4 minutes ago, beto_eagles said:

You have a good point there, nobody seems to complain about shovel passes which are basically a handoff (and Mahomes has tons of those). There are very impressive 5-yard passes in the end zone though. Or there are brotherly shoves preceded by a very good pass, for example, the tying TD in our previous SB when Smitty ran out of bounds after a great throw by Hurts. 

Every score is different and I support the idea of counting total TDs. 

Agreed.  

16 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Pretty good company. 

17 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

There have been some hilarious replies to him. Saw some saying to post a pic with a bong mask. Another saying to act like a complete jerk in all interviews :lol:

Go for a drive with Carter. Wait, too far.

12 minutes ago, beto_eagles said:

You have a good point there, nobody seems to complain about shovel passes which are basically a handoff (and Mahomes has tons of those). There are very impressive 5-yard passes in the end zone though. Or there are brotherly shoves preceded by a very good pass, for example, the tying TD in our previous SB when Smitty ran out of bounds after a great throw by Hurts. 

Every score is different and I support the idea of counting total TDs. 

I'm all for reconfiguring the categories for stats but separating them as they should be

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Go for a drive with Carter. Wait, too far.

I've seen that one too lol

 

11 minutes ago, NOTW said:

In addition, the defense is better now. Notably, in 2022 the defense was 8th in points, now they are 2nd. And this defense creates more turnovers.

In the playoffs, the Eagles have 10 takeaways and zero offensive turnovers. Expect the Eagles defense to create turnovers which will be huge.

The Eagles are a better team A-Z, on both sides of the ball than they were 2 years ago.

The Chiefs defense seems to be better than they were 2 years ago.  
 

The Chiefs offense, on the other hand doesn’t seem to be better than 2 years ago - they didn’t score more than 30 points the entire regular season. 
 

So on paper, I feel we have the more talented team. 
 

That said, we are still facing a HOF Coach in Andy Reid and a future HOF QB in Mahomes.  
 

We’ll need to play our A game on both sides of the ball. 

QB stats should separate passing and rushing and then can also have a total. Same as a running back who has receiving yards, they will start with rushing then either add receiving yards or just the total all-purpose yards.

The media will show combined yards and TDs for other QBs around the league as well. The ESPN QB Rating was invented to take the rushing stats of the QB into account, among other things. QBs can also throw a 2 yard screen and the receiver gets lots of YAC and all those yards get attributed to the QB passing numbers. But the accurate way is to show pass and rush stats separate for a QB first, and add a total after. 

12 minutes ago, NOTW said:

QB stats should separate passing and rushing and then can also have a total. Same as a running back who has receiving yards, they will start with rushing then either add receiving yards or just the total all-purpose yards.

The media will show combined yards and TDs for other QBs around the league as well. The ESPN QB Rating was invented to take the rushing stats of the QB into account, among other things. QBs can also throw a 2 yard screen and the receiver gets lots of YAC and all those yards get attributed to the QB passing numbers. But the accurate way is to show pass and rush stats separate for a QB first, and add a total after. 

You're just a Hurts hater for wanting them to be separate

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