What a block 

 

20 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

 

 

Bang bang play, bro. 

11 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just to play devils advocate, your last paragraph explains, hyperbolically, the common argument against Brock Purdy being a top QB in the league. When Barkley gets stopped at the one or two yard line and Hurts pushes it in, it’s going to highlight Hurts and diminish Barkley. It is what it is though. 

I think, for whatever reason wether it’s a drop in general talent or teams looking for more advantages in scheming the offense, that the "drop back and throw” QB from years ago has become less and less common in the league. It doesn’t really seem like we’re getting back there anytime soon either. 

Nothing diminishes Barkley, who has contributed with his legs pushing on Hurts leading to the success of several brotherly shoves this season.   I don’t think Barkley is caught up in the my TD versus Jalen’s TD.  It’s an "our” TD.  The only diminishment of Barkley is in the eyes of the people that hold him as a Fantasy Football player on their team.  Imagine being an opposing player having to push against Dickerson, Becton and Jurgens only to get hit with the strength of Hurts’ and Barkley’s legs. Barkley’s strength only adds to Jalen’s.   Heck, they are so strong that on the bad snap against the Ravens, they still scored.  Football is a team game and individual statistics are pretty much BS.  A RB’s yardage and scores don’t exist without the support of the 10 other players on the field.  A QB’s completion percentage, yardage, etc. don’t exist without the play of the other players on offense.  Heck, there are folks in here downplaying Hurts’ stats on Sunday.  Not a one of them have mentioned the short field situation the D put them in to start some of the offensive drives.  Hard to throw for seventy yards on a series when the ball is placed where Tucker missed from.  

Defenses countered the dropback and throw with speed (and less size - just look at Nolan Smith as an example.  When the Eagles drafted BG, there was concern with him size and weight, for example. Now he is the heaviest DE on the team.)  To counter that in college, teams use dual threat QBs.  That is now being countered by offenses reinvigorating the running game.  The pendulum swings. 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Bang bang play, bro. 

HE with yet another ice cold take  

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I think I’ve booked the hotel from the Saturday through to the Tuesday. May look to go a day earlier on the Friday. But we’ve got to get there first.

If you’re coming that far you might as well book a full week to be there for the parade. At the least have a contingency plan to extend the trip.

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What a block 

 

I don't remember who did it or when but I remember seeing someone losing a dread lock because it was ripped off

Long hair and necklaces on the field

29 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

3 games for Al-Shaair?  That’s pretty hefty honestly…he gets another and it might be a season lol.

I feel like every Texans game I catch he makes one hit where I'm feeling "That was a bit much....".

2 hours ago, Parrot Head said:

It's a mystery to me why Fangio hasn't gotten Brown involved. Seems like the type of player that he loves.

I'm sure there's a reason, but it's pretty shocking to me that he's only been on ST this year.

He doesn’t rush players on the field. Look how long it took DeJean to get on the field just for missing 2-3 weeks of TC. Brown missed a lot of time, I’m sure Fangio is just taking it slow with him. 

7 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So hypothetically guys… If we make the SB I’ve told my Mrs I’m flying us to Philly to be a part of it all. Who would be up for a meet up? And where would be the best place to watch the game?

My rape basement is on track to be finished in time, so that is an option for you.  I'm happy to report the soundproofing is working spectacularly! 

11 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

HE with yet another ice cold take  

Feels like our implied odds across various outlets for the #1 seed are anywhere between 20 to 30%.

Go Packers!

12 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Nothing diminishes Barkley, who has contributed with his legs pushing on Hurts leading to the success of several brotherly shoves this season.   I don’t think Barkley is caught up in the my TD versus Jalen’s TD.  It’s an "our” TD.  The only diminishment of Barkley is in the eyes of the people that hold him as a Fantasy Football player on their team.  Imagine being an opposing player having to push against Dickerson, Becton and Jurgens only to get hit with the strength of Hurts’ and Barkley’s legs. Barkley’s strength only adds to Jalen’s.   Heck, they are so strong that on the bad snap against the Ravens, they still scored.  Football is a team game and individual statistics are pretty much BS.  A RB’s yardage and scores don’t exist without the support of the 10 other players on the field.  A QB’s completion percentage, yardage, etc. don’t exist without the play of the other players on offense.  Heck, there are folks in here downplaying Hurts’ stats on Sunday.  Not a one of them have mentioned the short field situation the D put them in to start some of the offensive drives.  Hard to throw for seventy yards on a series when the ball is placed where Tucker missed from.  

Defenses countered the dropback and throw with speed (and less size - just look at Nolan Smith as an example.  When the Eagles drafted BG, there was concern with him size and weight, for example. Now he is the heaviest DE on the team.)  To counter that in college, teams use dual threat QBs.  That is now being countered by offenses reinvigorating the running game.  The pendulum swings. 

The whole conversation was based on how stats are listed and perceived around the entire league. No one outside of Philly is going to credit Barkley for a brotherly shove which only has one tangible stat attached to it, which is a TD. So Barkley absolutely gets diminished when Hurts gets those TD’s and Barkley doesn’t. Had Barkley gotten those TD’s over Hurts and had a stat line of 1,800+ yards from scrimmage and closer to 20 TD’s than his current 13, his MVP odds would absolutely be higher. 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Feels like our implied odds across various outlets for the #1 seed are anywhere between 20 to 30%.

Go Packers!

If Saquon didn’t drop that ball 😞

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Nothing diminishes Barkley, who has contributed with his legs pushing on Hurts leading to the success of several brotherly shoves this season.   I don’t think Barkley is caught up in the my TD versus Jalen’s TD.  It’s an "our” TD.  The only diminishment of Barkley is in the eyes of the people that hold him as a Fantasy Football player on their team.  Imagine being an opposing player having to push against Dickerson, Becton and Jurgens only to get hit with the strength of Hurts’ and Barkley’s legs. Barkley’s strength only adds to Jalen’s.   Heck, they are so strong that on the bad snap against the Ravens, they still scored.  Football is a team game and individual statistics are pretty much BS.  A RB’s yardage and scores don’t exist without the support of the 10 other players on the field.  A QB’s completion percentage, yardage, etc. don’t exist without the play of the other players on offense.  Heck, there are folks in here downplaying Hurts’ stats on Sunday.  Not a one of them have mentioned the short field situation the D put them in to start some of the offensive drives.  Hard to throw for seventy yards on a series when the ball is placed where Tucker missed from.  

Defenses countered the dropback and throw with speed (and less size - just look at Nolan Smith as an example.  When the Eagles drafted BG, there was concern with him size and weight, for example. Now he is the heaviest DE on the team.)  To counter that in college, teams use dual threat QBs.  That is now being countered by offenses reinvigorating the running game.  The pendulum swings. 

Indeed. We've already seen and discussed (a little) the return of the Wing T. We routinely line a TE up in the wing and motion him before the snap or pull him after the snap. We run the read option and the RPO, both of which have been around the college game forever. We even brought back the fullback lead. On our third play of the last game we had two halfbacks lined up with Hurts, motioned one, faked to the other, and threw a swing pass to the motioned man. Only a great play by the safety kept that from being a huge play. If he had stayed home on the fake to Saquon, Shipley might still be running.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The whole conversation was based on how stats are listed and perceived around the entire league. No one outside of Philly is going to credit Barkley for a brotherly shove which only has one tangible stat attached to it, which is a TD. So Barkley absolutely gets diminished when Hurts gets those TD’s and Barkley doesn’t. Had Barkley gotten those TD’s over Hurts and had a stat line of 1,800+ yards from scrimmage and closer to 20 TD’s than his current 13, his MVP odds would absolutely be higher. 

This would be true if the entire purpose of the season was to get Barkley the MVP award, but its not.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The whole conversation was based on how stats are listed and perceived around the entire league. No one outside of Philly is going to credit Barkley for a brotherly shove which only has one tangible stat attached to it, which is a TD. So Barkley absolutely gets diminished when Hurts gets those TD’s and Barkley doesn’t. Had Barkley gotten those TD’s over Hurts and had a stat line of 1,800+ yards from scrimmage and closer to 20 TD’s than his current 13, his MVP odds would absolutely be higher. 

Oh, woe betide. It's no accident that Barkley's contract has no bonus for TDs. He couldn't care less who scores so long as we score.

This is a stat full of conspiracy theories.  Our opponents have been least penalized, while Dallas' have been most penalized.

The difference between us at #32 and #28 is the same between #28 and #14.

3 minutes ago, just relax said:

Oh, woe betide. It's no accident that Barkley's contract has no bonus for TDs. He couldn't care less who scores so long as we score.

Ok. has nothing to do about the topic but thanks 

Holy crap he makes Johnson look small

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

This would be true if the entire purpose of the season was to get Barkley the MVP award, but its not.

Again, the conversation being had was strictly about stats and how they are perceived around the league. You guys keep making it out to be something it's not. 

32 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

HE with yet another ice cold take  

Still true. 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Again, the conversation being had was strictly about stats and how they are perceived around the league. You guys keep making it out to be something it's not. 

You're the one who said Barkley was "diminished."

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Again, the conversation being had was strictly about stats and how they are perceived around the league. You guys keep making it out to be something it's not. 

It was about how the 26 total TDs were misleading because some of them were brotherly shoves and others were "stolen" from Barkely led drives.

A yard counts the same. A TD counts the same. The purpose of the season is not to get Barkely TDs so he can have better odds for the MVP award. The fact that he's even in that conversation shows that Hurts' TDs are not diminishing him.

Just now, just relax said:

You're the one who said Barkley was "diminished."

Yes, again, in the context of how he is perceived league wide in the eyes of everyone.