3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It doesn’t matter if it’s James Bradberry. Eagles don’t operate that way. It’s also not his fault he’s getting paid "for nothing”. It’s Howies. He’s not putting up a fuss this year. You thank him for that and just move on. Not set a precedent for other players to rethink these Howie structure specials. It’s not even much of a benefit doing that way anyway. You still wouldn’t get the cap space until after June 1 when FA is practically over and all the guys everyone is worried about signing will have deals. 

If, as rumored, Howie has taken out injury insurance on Bradberry, the money from this year will be coming back.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Does longevity weigh in?   He started barely over 300 games.   Lefty has more wins than Koufax had starts.   In terms of 'stuff', you are likely right, from what I understand of Koufax, as he was before my time.  But, he didn't pitch for very long at all.

How do you evaluate Gayle Sayers' career? 

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

The 5 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. 

Horses

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I think Jimmy Rollins has a strong case for #2 all time for the Phils. He was frustrating at times trying to be a HR king, but man I think we just got so spoiled by how smooth he was in the field and how dependable he was. He's a borderline HOF player. At the same time, you could make the same argument for Chase Utley being #2 all time. 

I was born in 81. For me personally, it’s Schmidt than Chase. Chase Utley was and still is my favorite ball player of all time. I put pitchers separately. That is Carlton and then probably Wheeler for me. 

1 hour ago, just relax said:

Your point is valid. His major league career was twelve years long but he is judged on his last five, when he was almost unhittable.

As long as we’re on baseball, here are a couple of little stories.

Nolan Ryan was pitching and Norm Cash, first baseman of the Tigers and a fine hitter, came to the plate carrying a table leg instead of a bat. The ump said, "Norm, you can’t use that.” To which Cash replied, "Why not? I can’t hit him anyway.”

Don Drysdale, a contemporary of Koufax’s on the Dodgers, was reputed to be the meanest SOB who ever lived. He said once, "The best pitch isn’t when you throw at a guy. It’s when you throw at him a second time to let him know you meant it the first time.”

Bob Gibson to his catcher Tim McCarver when McCarver came out to the mound to calm Gibson down ... "The only thing you know about pitching is how hard it is to hit,"

25 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I was born in 81. For me personally, it’s Schmidt than Chase. Chase Utley was and still is my favorite ball player of all time. I put pitchers separately. That is Carlton and then probably Wheeler for me. 

I’d probably go Carlton then Hamels. Only reason i say Hamels is his 08 playoff run was magical. I think wheeler is a better pitcher but Hamels got us a second trophy. halladay, wheeler and Robin Roberts are better pitchers than Hamels, but Hamels 08 run and getting the job done was awesome. First championship in my lifetime. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d probably go Carlton then Hamels. Only reason i say Hamels is his 08 playoff run was magical. I think wheeler is a better pitcher but Hamels got us a second trophy. halladay, wheeler and Robin Roberts are better pitchers than Hamels, but Hamels 08 run and getting the job done was awesome. First championship in my lifetime. 

come on, we all know Joe Blanton carried that 08 team! 

41 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Help me understand Bradberry's 2025 numbers from OTC copied and pasted below.  It seems to read to me that he counts as $10.8 million of Dead Money, but only just under $3 million of net Cap Hit.

You are reading it correctly. His cap hit if on the team is approx $7.8M. His dead money is $10.8M if cut. So to cut him you are losing just shy of $3M cap space. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

come on, we all know Joe Blanton carried that 08 team! 

I remember fans just being pissed about acquiring him and not a bigger name at the deadline. They won a ws. Following year get Lee and didn’t. 09 still kills me cause if Hamels didn’t have a bad year they likely win back to back 

38 minutes ago, mattwill said:

If, as rumored, Howie has taken out injury insurance on Bradberry, the money from this year will be coming back.

Not all of it. 

Also too much stock is being put into the insurance angle. It’s for marquee players making a ton of money. Bradberry has league min base salary of the year, and his cap is mostly due to option bonuses every year. Furthermore, the "injury” to Bradberry is questionable as well. He was "injured” the first day after cut downs with no described injury other than "he fell over” and it would be 6-8 weeks. Howie can manipulate the cap but he can’t manipulate insurance companies, so I’m highly doubtful much comes from that. 

@Iggles_Phan

I also just noticed Bradberry has a $16.5M non guaranteed option bonus that exercises in March 2025. Which was likely put in place by his agent to avoid everything we were talking about earlier. 

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

On the PS, apparently.

But that’s the thing.  It’s not like the PS squad isn’t talked about here from time to time. He’s been THAT inconsequential 

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

On the PS, apparently.

45 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You are reading it correctly. His cap hit if on the team is approx $7.8M. His dead money is $10.8M if cut. So to cut him you are losing just shy of $3M cap space. 

Thank you.  That has a bottomline of "Good Bye James”

38 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

@Iggles_Phan

I also just noticed Bradberry has a $16.5M non guaranteed option bonus that exercises in March 2025. Which was likely put in place by his agent to avoid everything we were talking about earlier. 

So, he will be released prior to that Option being exercised.

43 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not all of it. 

Also too much stock is being put into the insurance angle. It’s for marquee players making a ton of money. Bradberry has league min base salary of the year, and his cap is mostly due to option bonuses every year. Furthermore, the "injury” to Bradberry is questionable as well. He was "injured” the first day after cut downs with no described injury other than "he fell over” and it would be 6-8 weeks. Howie can manipulate the cap but he can’t manipulate insurance companies, so I’m highly doubtful much comes from that. 

You are probably right.

Some goals for Sunday’s game …

104 Panthers passing yards or less

+3 or more Turnovers differential 

No more than 7 points allowed

5 sacks, which is a long shot since the Panthers have only allowed 21 all season

450 yards of Total Offense

45 points scored

 

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

I was born in 81. For me personally, it’s Schmidt than Chase. Chase Utley was and still is my favorite ball player of all time. I put pitchers separately. That is Carlton and then probably Wheeler for me. 

I was born in 80 and i dont really remember much about Schmidt i was only 9 when he retired... So for me i was late to the party so i go Rollins and Howard. The pitchers is Halladay and Wheeler. 

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Some goals for Sunday’s game …

104 Panthers passing yards or less

+3 or more Turnovers differential 

No more than 7 points allowed

5 sacks, which is a long shot since the Panthers have only allowed 21 all season

450 yards of Total Offense

45 points scored

 

I think you’re probably going to be left wanting on all of those.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Carke for grit and tenacity, but Parent for beauty and accomplishment.  Said another way, Parent could do it all by himself.  Clarke needed others to do it.

I was only 7 and 8 years old when the Flyers won their back-to-back Cups, so I’ll defer to your more vivid memories of Bernie’s prime — but it’s very rare for a goalie to do it all by himself.  Hasek is the only recent example I’ve seen of a goaltender willing a team to the championship on his own — I’m thinking Olympic gold in Hasek’s case, as the Sabres team he dragged there lost the SCF to DAL on Brett Hull’s B.S. "foot in crease” OT goal.

Brodeur lived off of Stevens, Niedermeyer, Daneyko (and later Rafalski), Patrick Roy had Bourque, Foote, Krupp, etc. in Colorado.  Billy Smith had Potvin, Morrow, Stefan Persson in New York in addition to Brian Trottier being the best all-around player of that era.  Grant Fuhr stood on his head night in and night out for the Oilers, but he also had the luxury of being able to win 6-4 and 7-5 games.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Thank you.  That has a bottomline of "Good Bye James”

'Good Bye  Normus James...'

30 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think you’re probably going to be left wanting on all of those.

That is the nice thing about goals, the pursuit is as much fun as the attainment.

21 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I was only 7 and 8 years old when the Flyers won their back-to-back Cups, so I’ll defer to your more vivid memories of Bernie’s prime — but it’s very rare for a goalie to do it all by himself.  Hasek is the only recent example I’ve seen of a goaltender willing a team to the championship on his own — I’m thinking Olympic gold in Hasek’s case, as the Sabres team he dragged there lost the SCF to DAL on Brett Hull’s B.S. "foot in crease” OT goal.

Brodeur lived off of Stevens, Niedermeyer, Daneyko (and later Rafalski), Patrick Roy had Bourque, Foote, Krupp, etc. in Colorado.  Billy Smith had Potvin, Morrow, Stefan Persson in New York in addition to Brian Trottier being the best all-around player of that era.  Grant Fuhr stood on his head night in and night out for the Oilers, but he also had the luxury of being able to win 6-4 and 7-5 games.

Don't forget The Big Kid in Montreal.

Regarding Bernie, no goalie ... no player truly does it by himself, but there is no position in any of the major sports that is lonely as the Ice Hockey Goalie.  We talk about CB's being on an island in football, and individual batters in baseball facing 100 mph fastballs, but none even come close to what an NHL goaiie faces. 

Here are Bernie's stats over two years

and Playoffs that year

Sounds like Goedert is going to miss a few weeks then and IR is a possibility…

Still one open slot on the Practice Squad.

I wouldn't be surprised if that slot is filled with a Tight End.