14 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Carr??

With the Eagles roster? Absolutely. 

53 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

With this roster, here are the NFC QB's I'd 10000% ride with before Jalen Hurts...

Murray
Carr
Purdy
Goff

Here's the QB's I'd have to really think about maybe putting ahead of Hurts...

Mayfield
Love
Cousins

QB's I know are worse than Hurts...

Young
Jones
 

I don’t see Murray as anything better than a push with Hurts.  Based on his performance since being drafted, what do you see in his game that makes you like him?

Same question about Carr.  He was a local QB for me here in Nor Cal and the disappointments from him far outnumbered the props.

Goff as a Lion is worthy.  Goff as a Ram is not.

Why no Stafford or Smith on your list?

2 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Falcons can't generate any like any pass rush, Daniels will have time to make and step into throws

So true…Bo Nix will be the talk of the rookie QBs this Monday.  He has a pretty big day tomorrow I think.
 

4 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

With the Eagles roster? Absolutely. 

You have been smoking too much whacky weed.

59 minutes ago, just relax said:

Jurgens is still making mistakes. I’ve posted on at least three of them. They’re due to inexperience, not incompetence.

I’m curious to see if he’ll be able to handle blocking assignments next year.

25 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I don’t see Murray as anything better than a push with Hurts.  Based on his performance since being drafted, what do you see in his game that makes you like him?

Same question about Carr.  He was a local QB for me here in Nor Cal and the disappointments from him far outnumbered the props.

Goff as a Lion is worthy.  Goff as a Ram is not.

Why no Stafford or Smith on your list?

Murray, has been consistent despite the new COD coming out a few weeks ago.  We are at the point of the season where he generally falls off a cliff or gets hurt though.  Will be interesting to see him going forward.

Carr…ugh, him and his brother are both woulda coulda shoulda’s that got stuck on terrible teams.  He’s too long in the tooth at this point.  Carr of 5 or so years ago…potentially a different story.

Goff, like Hurts has made a SB.  He wasn’t chopped liver in LA…but he is what he is, an average to above average QB.

Stafford, like Carr is long in the tooth and his age is showing.

At the end of the day, Hurts median is a Goff or Kirk style of QB.  He’s going to be good sometimes, great others, and bad at times as well.  He’s in a unique position in that he can still win games himself with his legs at times.  He’s a fringe top 10 guy, who on his best days will make you think he’s a top 5.  I think the quicker some of us (myself included) realize and accept that for what it is, the better.  I’m frankly sick of nitpicking, expecting different.  As long as howie can assemble a roster around his contract, we should be fine.  We saw him catch fire the second half of 2022…he might have that in him again.  This would be the year to hope for that as I think the window will close slightly.

 

Either way, good to see you pop in!

21 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I don’t see Murray as anything better than a push with Hurts.  Based on his performance since being drafted, what do you see in his game that makes you like him?

Same question about Carr.  He was a local QB for me here in Nor Cal and the disappointments from him far outnumbered the props.

Goff as a Lion is worthy.  Goff as a Ram is not.

Why no Stafford or Smith on your list?

It's a list for QB's today. The ones I didn't include are those I'm not sure about. Stafford has been better, historically. I don't know if this season is a temporary down year due to team circumstances. He's 36 years old and maybe he's lost a bit of something.

28 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You have been smoking too much whacky weed.

Dude's got a cannon and can make every throw on the field. 

1 hour ago, mayanh8 said:

With this roster, here are the NFC QB's I'd 10000% ride with before Jalen Hurts...

Murray
Carr
Purdy
Goff

Here's the QB's I'd have to really think about maybe putting ahead of Hurts...

Mayfield
Love
Cousins

QB's I know are worse than Hurts...

Young
Jones
 

Yikes. I think Goff, Love, and Mayfield would flourish here because they'd just take what the defense gave

The rest are a no from me lol

AFC is more stacked and a bunch of them I'd take over Hurts

12 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Dude's got a cannon and can make every throw on the field. 

So could Jamarcus Russell. Derek Carr is a dunce who has held back every team he’s ever played on. He is the human embodiment of "mid”

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

And gets 10% of the respect Trent Williams does even though he's better.

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Yikes. I think Goff, Love, and Mayfield would flourish here because they'd just take what the defense gave

The rest are a no from me lol

AFC is more stacked and a bunch of them I'd take over Hurts

Mayfield is decidedly mediocre.   Wouldn't want him near this team.

 

24 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Dude's got a cannon and can make every throw on the field. 

He can make every throw on the field but he never consistently does make those throws.  He is consistently inconsistent.  And his leadership qualities are right up there with Jim Irsay’s or Mark Davis’.

24 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

And gets 10% of the respect Trent Williams does even though he's better.

The PED thing hurt Lane.  If not for that, he’d be a slam dunk 1st ballot.  And when accounting for peak performance and longevity, he really is the greatest Eagle OL of all time.  

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The PED thing hurt Lane.  If not for that, he’d be a slam dunk 1st ballot.  And when accounting for peak performance and longevity, he really is the greatest Eagle OL of all time.  

Better than Kelce?   Lane was named first team All-Pro only twice, second team twice..    Kelce was first team All-Pro six times.    Not that Pro Bowl means as much... but Johnson was named 5 times, Kelce 7.  

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Better than Kelce?   Lane was named first team All-Pro only twice, second team twice..    Kelce was first team All-Pro six times.    Not that Pro Bowl means as much... but Johnson was named 5 times, Kelce 7.  

I'd definitely take Lane over Kelce.  Kelce never missed time, which was a big deal.  But Kelce did have weaknesses in his game.  Lane did not.  The best OL are OT's, not centers.  Once you reach that rarified air, it's a bit easier to string together all-pro nods as a center.

Look at this OL without Kelce this year...and compare that to the OL anytime, any game without Lane.  I'd take a 22 year old Lane in the draft 10/10 times over a 22 year old Kelce.

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Hurts is in a good spot because Goff, Mayfield and Cousins are all largely disrespected; Murray too.  Daniels is a rookie which may work against him.  His injury is hurting his chances also.

If I was voting for three right now it would be Goff, Murray, Daniels.  I think each of their teams would be a couple of wins less without them.

 

Eagles would be nowhere close to 8-2 without Hurts. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Eagles would be nowhere close to 8-2 without Hurts. 

well it depends on who replaced him. 

22 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Better than Kelce?   Lane was named first team All-Pro only twice, second team twice..    Kelce was first team All-Pro six times.    Not that Pro Bowl means as much... but Johnson was named 5 times, Kelce 7.  

Part of the all-pro issue is the voting didn’t add right tackle until 2020. So he was going up against 2 much more famous LT’s every year. If Kelce was bunched in with left tackles, he’d have many fewer all pros too.

Kelce was the best C of the last decade. Lane might be the best RT ever

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Eagles would be nowhere close to 8-2 without Hurts. 

They’d be pretty close. Probably 9-1 without him. 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'd definitely take Lane over Kelce.  Kelce never missed time, which was a big deal.  But Kelce did have weaknesses in his game.  Lane did not.  The best OL are OT's, not centers.  Once you reach that rarified air, it's a bit easier to string together all-pro nods as a center.

Look at this OL without Kelce this year...and compare that to the OL anytime, any game without Lane.  I'd take a 22 year old Lane in the draft 10/10 times over a 22 year old Kelce.

I don't disagree with the positional difference.  BUT, the PEDs and the missed time with injury is a knock for me.   Kelce was there every week, even when he was banged up, he played, and at a high level.   And yes, Lane is an amazing RT.  And the team struggled mightily in games he didn't play, but of course, we can't compare that to when Kelce missed games, because he almost never did.

One thing we have to remember too with the center position is that he was responsible for a lot of OL calls that the RT never has to worry about.  It's a very big responsibility and adds value to the center position, IMO.  Different than the required physical talent of RT, but equally important.  And the snap... each and every play.  When that is screwed up, everyone knows.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

well it depends on who replaced him. 

Jalen is definitely top 10, not top 5. But this offense is built around him. His running ability and his touch with AJ and Devonta (part of the reason for those spectacularly catches is the ball placement is crazy) override the silly errors he makes. Like I probably wouldn’t take Goff for this offense, even though he’s playing better than Hurts this year

Watching that statue get shattered every time Becton or Fred flubs up would be painful. Sometimes Jalen running around like a crazy person and throwing it 3 seats up is a decent result there.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Jalen is definitely top 10, not top 5. But this offense is built around him. His running ability and his touch with AJ and Devonta (part of the reason for those spectacularly catches is the ball placement is crazy) over ride the silly errors he makes. Like I probably wouldn’t take Goff for this offense, even though he’s playing better than Hurts this year

I dont agree with any of that.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I dont agree with any of that.

You don’t think he makes silly errors? You’re a bigger believer than I am