5 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

It seems like Hurts has the "yips” randomly in games. Guys are wide open and he is looking right at them? What’s the glitch in the matrix for? Or is he worried about his lack of arm strength and that’s why he doesn’t throw it?

Maybe he plays Madden too much and he expects the DB's to magically teleport directly to the ball to deflect it no matter how open the receiver looks?

In all seriousness Yesterday he wouldn't throw to Brown running free deep, which has always been the one ball he would always uncork even if Brown wasn't that open. Like I said in an earlier post, what he needs is to chase a game, where they're forced to throw and up the tempo, get him out of his own head.

10 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I'll bring my 3 year old daughter to supervise.  

Probably best to let her hold the car keys.

18 minutes ago, RLC said:

Given that we need to get this passing offense out of a funk, I would we have a 80-20 pass-run ratio vs. Pitt. Win or lose, get the passing game back on track. Throw your way out of it.

They don't need to completely abandon the run game in order to improve the pass game. I thought Cincinnati and Jacksonville were Hurts's best games this season and he only threw 20-25 times. He needs to be more efficient in the plays where they pass, not necessarily throw more. He shouldn't be throwing 40-45 times a game. 

Maybe there's some confusing terminology involved here too, we've seen great wr run the wrong routes on multiple occasions and we've seen terrible spacing, combined with the recent comments maybe it's all communication

15 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Meanwhile, the former mediocre white QBs are having a great morning. Orlovosky going off saying the Rams offense can't be stopped and they can go to the Super Bowl. Anyone know if a defense went into LA and held them to 14 points before garbage time recently? I'm guessing Chase Daniels is embarrassing himself again.

Please explain why you felt the need to bring race into the conversation.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Teams that have started a season 11-2 or better in 3 straight seasons

2022-2024 Eagles (Sirianni)

1996-1998 Broncos (Shanahan)

 

end of list

We weren’t 11-2 last year. We went from 10-1 to 10-4 before we got our 11th win. 

6 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Maybe he plays Madden too much and he expects the DB's to magically teleport directly to the ball to deflect it no matter how open the receiver looks?

In all seriousness Yesterday he wouldn't throw to Brown running free deep, which has always been the one ball he would always uncork even if Brown wasn't that open. Like I said in an earlier post, what he needs is to chase a game, where they're forced to throw and up the tempo, get him out of his own head.

Many times Smith is lined up in the slot for a quick crosser and he just stares at him while he runs open for 3 seconds and doesn’t bother to throw it. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Please explain why you felt the need to bring race into the conversation.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Please explain why you felt the need to bring race into the conversation.

Good question. 

21 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

OL pass pro needs to be better. 

This is blatantly false

39 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Yes, that play.  I was making reference to the "marching" connotation.  The Panthers weren't marching.  They were jumping all over the place.

Call it whatever you want, if Legette catches they’d have gone 98 yards in 2 mins. The panthers had 1 big broken play out of structure on that drive. It was the 31 yard reception to Legette that got them out to the 32. After that all the plays the eagles let up run of 6 to Hubbard, 7 yard reception to Tompkins, 3 yard rush by young, 13 yards to thielen (4th down), 6 yards to thielen and the legette’s wide open drop. If you want to include young’s 3 yard scramble as jumping over the place fine. Still would’ve been 65 yards on what I’d call not jumping all over the place.

i’d also just like to point this out on that broken 31 yard gain if the Eagles kept containment, they likely get a safety on that play or it’s going to be 4th down. when you go back and watch that replay, guys lose containment gives a lane (miss tackle too) to go outside of structure to make a play. You’re gonna have the same problem with Russell Wilson this week if our containment is like that.

3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

We weren’t 11-2 last year. We went from 10-1 to 10-4 before we got our 11th win. 

Ah, my bad

12 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

How much of the scheme is a function of Hurts?

That's pretty much impossible to answer from the outside

9 minutes ago, Swoop said:

This is blatantly false

Wrong.  The OL needs to be better

https://www.panthers.com/video/josey-jewell-s-blitzing-sack-of-jalen-hurts-goes-for-an-8-yard-loss-wek-14-2024

https://www.panthers.com/video/a-shawn-robinson-puts-the-eagles-behind-the-chains-on-an-8-yard-sack-of-hurts

 

6 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Teams that have started a season 11-2 or better in 3 straight seasons

2022-2024 Eagles (Sirianni)

1996-1998 Broncos (Shanahan)

 

end of list

That stat doesn’t nothing for me. If we update it later in the year and it says that, plus 2 out of the 3 seasons, a Super Bowl visit and one year a ring, then it’s impressive. 

Eagles air frustrations as passing attack struggles

Frustration about a passing attack that has yet to hit its stride bubbled to the surface for members of the Eagles following Sunday's narrow win over the Carolina Panthers. Tim McManus of ESPN reports.

The Eagles have won nine straight games to improve to 11-2. The ground game, led by MVP candidate Saquon Barkley, continues to hum. The defense has played above expectation all season.

An aerial attack that features some top-tier players, including receivers A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith, saw its struggles continue Sunday as quarterback Jalen Hurts finished with 108 yards on 21 passing attempts.

The ground game, meanwhile, racked up 209 yards, averaging 6.7 yards per attempt, on an afternoon when Barkley set a new franchise record for rushing yards in a single season (1,623).

So what's missing?

"Being on the same page," said Smith, who later noted he was talking about this week specifically. "Thinking the same. Seeing the right signals. Just going out there and making it work."

The Eagles entered Week 14 with an NFL-low 307 passing attempts on the season. Given the team's success and Barkley's prowess, the receivers have taken their reduced roles in stride.

There were a couple instances when Brown cleanly beat 1-on-1 coverage and was not targeted. He did not have a pass thrown to him until the waning moments of the first half. He tossed his helmet after coming off the field following a three-and-out in the second quarter.

"Passing," Brown said, on what the offense needs to improve on.

When asked how hard it is for a receiver to get into a rhythm when the offense isn't passing the ball much, Brown responded: "Incredibly tough."

The standards are high among a gifted group of players with championship aspirations. It's not a big surprise, then, that Smith's takeaway postgame, which echoed the thoughts of several others, is that "offensively, we need to be better."

"I think [the Panthers] did a good job; I think we did a bad job," Hurts said of the passing game. "That starts with me, how I execute. Ultimately, you yearn and I yearn for better synchronization, for a more complimentary style of ball, in a sense.

"You know, some things don't get you until it gets you. And there's definitely been some urgency there, trying to figure it out. And got to keep climbing and trying to progress."

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Please explain why you felt the need to bring race into the conversation.

Sorry, it is a field day for former garbage backup QBs who stole money and can't play. Better? 

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

That's pretty much impossible to answer from the outside

There are no answers here.  Just opinions.

Man up!

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Sorry, it is a field day for former garbage backup QBs who stole money and can't play. Better? 

I think you already showed your hand. 

And it wouldn't be an excuse even if it was a function of Hurts. Installing a vanilla passing offense that doesn't work because of the QB, doesn't solve anything. If the passing offense was working you'd go ok, this is fine. But given that it isn't working, if this is the case, you might as well run what you want to run. It can't get any worse.

This is like a movie director having a dumbed down script that sounds like it was written by a 12 year old, because the actors keep forgetting their lines, but the actors still forget their lines with the dumbed down script. At that point if they're gonna forget their lines anyway, you might as well just use the original script you intended to use to begin with.

54 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I think the defense played very well yesterday. 16 points. 302 yards. They did what they scheme to do - make teams move methodically down the field.  They only gave up two plays over 20 yards.  It just so happened that Carolina seemed to make every toss-up play to maintain a handful of drives.

What this team does lack is an edge rusher that can ruin late game drives.  They do get pressure as a group.  But what we had in Reddick is missing. 

They played "pretty OK" (Mr. Miyagi voice) in my opinion.

Lots of missed tackles.  Lots of stumbling around, guys being a step late.  The pass rush was dangerous but disorganized.

How Josh Sweat didn't get a safety is beyond me.

I'm hoping that Huff comes through to provide a late season boost.  Why the hell not

7 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Wrong.  They need to be better

https://www.panthers.com/video/josey-jewell-s-blitzing-sack-of-jalen-hurts-goes-for-an-8-yard-loss-wek-14-2024

https://www.panthers.com/video/a-shawn-robinson-puts-the-eagles-behind-the-chains-on-an-8-yard-sack-of-hurts

 

Hurts has more time to throw than every QB in the NFL aside from Sam Darnold. 

The pass protection is not the problem 

Again, that's blatantly false.

5 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Hurts has more time to throw than every QB in the NFL aside from Sam Darnold. 

The pass protection is not the problem 

Again, that's blatantly false.

Look at those plays and tell me that pass protection was not a problem.  I get that they have been good but they have had communication/protection issues.  And when those issues kill drives, it is a problem. 

https://www.panthers.com/video/a-shawn-robinson-puts-the-eagles-behind-the-chains-on-an-8-yard-sack-of-hurts

https://www.panthers.com/video/josey-jewell-s-blitzing-sack-of-jalen-hurts-goes-for-an-8-yard-loss-wek-14-2024

 

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Sorry, it is a field day for former garbage backup QBs who stole money and can't play. Better? 

Yes.   They aren't criticizing him because he's black and they are white.  They are criticizing him because there's fodder there to be criticized and that's their job.  They have to fill the air time with some kind of content.  And when discussing the Eagles offense yesterday, their all-world RB set the franchise record for single season rushing yards, ran for 124 yards, meanwhile the QB threw for 108.   That's worth talking about.  Even the players on the team are talking about it.  We don't know what they are saying amongst themselves, but we know what they are saying publicly, and they are not happy with the results in the passing game.  

There are reasons why and they should be open for discussion without race being a chief element in the conversation.  Is it scheme, is it cohesion, is it QB failures, is it OL breakdowns?   Lots of options, but the one we know it isn't is talent.  This offense has plenty of talent to be performing at a much higher level in the passing game, and they aren't.    And let's remember, the Ravens have a great run defense team and a mediocre to bad pass defense squad... BUT, this offense was able to pretty much impose their will on them in the running game, but the passing game was anemic.  Yesterday, they struggled mightily passing against the Panthers who are very much in the middle of the pack.  That's not what this team was built to be.  The salaries indicate that.  So, let the talking heads talk without race being an issue.  It really isn't.  The issue is the problems in the passing game.

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

They played "pretty OK" (Mr. Miyagi voice) in my opinion.

Lots of missed tackles.  Lots of stumbling around, guys being a step late.  The pass rush was dangerous but disorganized.

How Josh Sweat didn't get a safety is beyond me.

I'm hoping that Huff comes through to provide a late season boost.  Why the hell not

They didn't finish plays well yesterday and it burnt them repeatedly.  Lots of hidden lost yardage due to that, and extended drives.