2 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

Not only that but the Chefs don’t usually use Kelce as just "the dump off” guy in their offense - the way the Commanders used Ertz most of the time. 

Expect Kelce to go over the middle a lot - even on some deeper routes - and if that’s the case, our secondary should be able to contain him.

What we don’t want to do (especially in zone) is to allow them to create mismatches by having a LB on him.  Other than maybe Baun in some schemes, I don’t want a LB covering Kelce most of the time. 

So we’ll need to figure out a way to get either DeJean or CJ on him, whenever possible, imo.

Against this Eagles Defense the designed routes for Kelce don’t worry me as much as the improvised routes. Fangio’s Defensive scheme uses our LBs and DeJean very effectively to take to planned routes away.  Where Kelce is really good is identifying the seams between the zones and sitting down in those seams.

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

The look-a-head line for the SB was AFC -1.5 regardless if Buffalo or KC won.

I find that sort of odd.  This seems to be the one year where the NFC clearly seems like the stronger conference and yet Vegas still favors the AFC 

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

But they don't have a Terry at WR

Worthy is good but I feel like q takes him away and slay takes away Hopkins 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I mean hard to adjust when your oline was bad most of the year and banged up at times outside of LT and LG. Then you lost your top WRs and 2 for significant time. Collins missed 1.5 months. Diggs missed half the season. And dell missed 3 weeks 

pff grades for Texans ol starters:

tunsil: 76.5

howard: 70.5

Patterson: 61.5

Mason: 62.3

Fisher: 50.4 

3 of their 5 starters were bad. Not really sure how you want him to adjust to having a bad OL outside of LT and LG and losing weapons at WR throughout the year. At some point you just don’t have the guys you need to run the offense he wants   

I was high on Stroud, but he was bad at times last year. I can’t blame that all on slowik because he had some decisions in games that were just atrocious. 

You said it before me here. I was going to say most games Stroud had 0 time and was getting crushed.

I don't care how good you are if you don't have time you can't do much.

7 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I find that sort of odd.  This seems to be the one year where the NFC clearly seems like the stronger conference and yet Vegas still favors the AFC 

We were the deeper conference (see GB as the 7 seed vs. Denver), but less top-heavy. Buffalo/Baltimore/KC were much better than the 3 seed Bucs.

Personally, I'm enjoying this underdog role.

Hoping Travis Swiftie continues the AFC trend of TE's dropping game ending passes.

That defensive graph is crazy. 

 

Not much talked about but what I really like about our defense is the constant communication you seem to see before the ball is snapped.  Seems like they all get on the same page quickly.  

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

The first two players won the sb that year 🤞

Mahomes may be the best, but they've gone through good offenses in Balt, Cin, DC, LA, Pitt when they were "hot", and GB. They've faced offensive geniuses with good QB and the defense has shown up. They have two weeks for the Eagles and Vic has two weeks to come up with something for them. Vic is going to be working, he's someone who makes good adjustments, I'm sure he's learned what Andy likes to do against his defenses, and they have the players across the board to get this done. People slobbered over Love, MS, and JD the last three weeks and how they were going to expose them. It didn't happen then and it's not going to happen now.

25 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

You said it before me here. I was going to say most games Stroud had 0 time and was getting crushed.

I don't care how good you are if you don't have time you can't do much.

Yup. Didn’t help they lost Collins for 5.5 games, diggs for 9 games and dell for 3. Mixon for 3. And mixon was bad the last 6 games of the regular season. He was at 3.4 yards per carry over the last 6 weeks of the regular season. 

This will be the first year I take an interest in Media Day at the Super Bowl.  I like this narrative that the Chiefs are trying for the Super Bowl three-peat, while the Eagles have been under the radar so far.  You know the media is going to be asking constant questions to the Chiefs players about trying to win three in a row, and I'm very curious to hear how they answer, because that will be a signal to me about how they're approaching this game.  I've always had the opinion that the 2007 Giants team beat the unbeaten Patriots team because, while the Patriots were playing for a "place in history", the Giants were playing for THAT trophy, THAT day.  They played with more focus, more energy, and more urgency. 

The Chiefs should answer that line of questioning by saying "we're not thinking about that; we're trying to win this Sunday."  If they entertain the questions and wax poetic about how great their organization is, that will say a lot to me about their level of preparation -- and I think they'll be in for a rude awakening.

1 hour ago, Joe Ball said:

It would be cool to see a direct snap between the legs of Hurts to Saquon...with his speed to the outside, he's gone...call that play say from the 40-50 yard line if you already have a lead...

Yup.  And you have the line sell out as usual... including Hurts.  

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Maybe. I would still ask though. 🙂

I'm just saying... have a backup plan in mind.  It's a long shot.

1 hour ago, Iggles25 said:

I resemble that remark.

Wait... are you guy the guy who goes with the first girl, or are you the obnoxious drunken mess?    Maybe its not an either/or situation?   Both/and?  

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Wait... are you guy the guy who goes with the first girl, or are you the obnoxious drunken mess?    Maybe its not an either/or situation?   Both/and?  

Being a drummer in two local bands, I used to have a knack for going with the first drunken MILF that talked to me. Should have worked the room more.

I still play, but I do not drink anymore. It is amazing how that improves one's judgement in those situations lol

4 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Oh for F’s sake.  Safeties don’t play a lot of Man (zero coverage) in the NFL.  Mostly variations of zones and even in the most likely coverage with a S in Man (Cover 1 variations) at least one S is in "zone” and that most likely is the FS, the position Reed plays. Thing is that a significant portion of presnap looks that Fangio gives is two deep Ss.  He kind of does a little of a variation of Saban’s (and Belichek’s) Cover 1 at times where the Ss read and that read determine which S drops and which plays downhill towards a receiver.  This is where you really get to see what Reed excels at.  

I suspect this comes from Parker and his staff, and suspect that Kasper’s hand is involved in this a lot.  Pre bye, the backfield communication wasn’t there.  (It was nonexistent last year with the revolving door at S.)  Post bye, the communication has been good bordering on excellent.  (Frankly, I think that is why McCollum is ahead of Brown on the org.  But when Reed was out, the communication in the backfield slipped a little at first. But then mostly snapped in place. I think McCollum was adjusting to the communication duties.) The Ss have to communicate with the CBs and LBs in coverage so that the handoffs in zone or the protection over the top is understood.  That narrows gaps.  Reed is excellent at it but the difference between this year and last is significantly impacted by the communication.  Frankly, Q and Coop are pretty damn good but that communication we are seeing in the back seven is real noticeable when watching the All22  I think Reed is the catalyst on the field and the secondary coaches have driven that communication need home. Even CJGJ is playing with more discipline, perhaps a sign he is maturing.  

Now that said, playing press would not be Reeds forte but that said, Fangio plays little press and when he does, it’s almost always only the CBs. (Somebody commented about Slay lining up ten yards deep earlier, well Slay isn’t particularly good at press, Q surprisingly because he didn’t really press in college is quite good at it.)

I heard on a podcast that Q played NO PRESS in college and they made him do it at the Seniors. To be that good at it. Wow.  

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

If someone can give me a good reason to not have it named the Lombardi trophy, I'd love to hear it.    You don't just change the name because a cheater won a lot of them.   

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

That first drive from KC on Sunday is what I imagine them doing vs the Eagles with fast throws to negate the DL.

I think we will see a LOT of hurry up to keep us from spelling the D Line too.  

I hope we use a lot of hurry up too. Seems to put Jalen in a rhythm.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFW4iNDRBHb/?igsh=c2VtYmI0aGNtMGdj

 

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And you don't think that Kelce will be Mahomes' third down target?  And Kelce IS known for his YAC, even as he's slowed down over the years.   It's a concern, and they need to try to find ways to remedy this.  Remember, in 2017, Gronk was the Patriots' main target too.  And it was pretty effective... nearly effective enough to win.

I will go a bit further.  If they went to Gronk SOONER or stayed with him LONGER, we might have lost that '17 game. Game really changed when they went to him in the 2nd half.

This stat about Mahomes being 8-0 against Fangio is pretty ridiculous. In the regular season last year, Vic's Dolphins defense held KC to 21 points and 267 total yards. They gave up 26 points and 409 yards in the playoffs, but the Dolphins offense did nothing in that game (scored 7). So an average of 23.5 points and 338 yards. The games from 2019-2021 when Vic was the HC of the Broncos, that was a different Chiefs offense with Tyreke. Scored 30, 23, 43, 22, 22 and 28, average of 28 points per game.

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Chiefs were actually pretty mediocre on offense this year. They were middle of the pack in scoring, but their defense actually is top 5. Most people naturally focus on quarterbacks and offenses (a byproduct of living in the hyper-analzyed fantasy football era) but nobody is talking about two of the league's best defenses helping to carry their team to the final game of the season. Both of these DCs have year of experience too so don't be shocked if this turns into a fairly low scoring affair.

They were, but it would be stupid to think that Mahomes and Reid aren't going to be an entirely different animal when going for 3 in a row.

Reid off of a "bye" has always been very good.

3 minutes ago, Swoop said:

They were, but it would be stupid to think that Mahomes and Reid aren't going to be an entirely different animal when going for 3 in a row.

Reid off of a "bye" has always been very good.

Incredible actually.  Top secret plays and all.  They are the best so as they say, to be the best, you have to beat the best.