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My only wish-list this off-season: go get Myles Garrett to replace Josh Sweat. 

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11 minutes ago, RLC said:

My only wish-list this off-season: go get Myles Garrett to replace Josh Sweat. 

Won't happen. I hope I ruined your day and pissed in your cheerios

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

TEW wanted the tackle the Chiefs had on the bench too

In a way, that pick helped the Eagles win the Super Bowl. He was so bad they had to move Thuney to LT and start Frank Caliendo at LG. 

No shade at TEW as he acknowledged Kingsley to be a really raw player. He had no business starting right away. 

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

There are multiple right and wrong ways to approach this offseason.  This is the first offseason in the history of my fandom where I just don't have a strong opinion...I trust whatever Howie/Fangio/Stoutland want to do.  Those 3 are making all the relevant decisions.

Baun/Williams/Sweat...Pretty sure Howie and Fangio can and will keep the ones they need to.

Becton...ditto Howie and Stoutland.

Fangio and Stoutland know what they do or don't have in Ojomo, Steen, Hunt.

There are a lot of permutations in who to keep and who to let walk...and it's really hard to prognosticate much in the draft until those decisions come to fruition.


DE will be a priority...but I don't think it needs to be a 1st round investment unless there is a player they can't pass up on.  Rotational depth feels more important to me.  

DT...let's see what happens with Williams.

OL...let's see what happens with Becton.  Ranges from a potential major draft need to us not even looking at many OL at any point in the draft.

TE...lots of directions here too.

Baun is the priority. If you have to let everyone else walk to keep him, so be it. 

Next priority would be try to keep Bechton. This was his first season at RG and did really well. You’d think he’d just get better. 

Williams is a good player but I think there’s enough pieces that losing him makes almost no difference. 

Sweat is the one player I’d be shocked about being on the 2025 roster. He has all the makings of getting a 4-5 year contract from the Jags or Dolphins and playing OK for a year or two. 

TE is interesting. I’m pretty sure Goedert is heading into the final year of his contract. Do we restructure his contract? He’s very good, when healthy. 

1 hour ago, M.C. said:

Entire play was a beauty

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

Baun is the priority. If you have to let everyone else walk to keep him, so be it. 

Next priority would be try to keep Bechton. This was his first season at RG and did really well. You’d think he’d just get better. 

Williams is a good player but I think there’s enough pieces that losing him makes almost no difference. 

Sweat is the one player I’d be shocked about being on the 2025 roster. He has all the makings of getting a 4-5 year contract from the Jags or Dolphins and playing OK for a year or two. 

TE is interesting. I’m pretty sure Goedert is heading into the final year of his contract. Do we restructure his contract? He’s very good, when healthy. 

Baun and Becton will be back. I think they make a run and Williams. Get his replacement in the draft. Extend Goedert to a team friendly 2 year extension and look for his replacement 

16 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

There are multiple right and wrong ways to approach this offseason.  This is the first offseason in the history of my fandom where I just don't have a strong opinion...I trust whatever Howie/Fangio/Stoutland want to do.  Those 3 are making all the relevant decisions.

Baun/Williams/Sweat...Pretty sure Howie and Fangio can and will keep the ones they need to.

Becton...ditto Howie and Stoutland.

Fangio and Stoutland know what they do or don't have in Ojomo, Steen, Hunt.

There are a lot of permutations in who to keep and who to let walk...and it's really hard to prognosticate much in the draft until those decisions come to fruition.


DE will be a priority...but I don't think it needs to be a 1st round investment unless there is a player they can't pass up on.  Rotational depth feels more important to me.  

DT...let's see what happens with Williams.

OL...let's see what happens with Becton.  Ranges from a potential major draft need to us not even looking at many OL at any point in the draft.

TE...lots of directions here too.

DE you have Smith & Hunt as your starters and as of now Huff is on team.  Definitely feels like another high pick &/or well priced vet. Agree might not be first round

Can't see them letting Baun walk at any cost

Williams is a guy they'd love to keep. Homegrown and position they love but price might be so high that they decide to keep 2 others.  They do have Ojomo, Davis, Booker.  Maybe they decide to reload cheaper just because of cap implications

Becton seems like he wants to stay and I don't think he'll be paid that much but again cap is cap and depending what happens elsewhere we'll see.

Two years ago they kept Bradberry instead of CJGJ so it doesn't always work out but I think it plays out based on which guy takes the reasonable offer first

14 minutes ago, RLC said:

My only wish-list this off-season: go get Myles Garrett to replace Josh Sweat. 

Who do we re-sign of our FAs if this happens? How do we replace the ones that leave when we’re out of picks and money?

Just now, ManuManu said:

Who do we re-sign of our FAs if this happens? How do we replace the ones that leave when we’re out of picks and money?

His love obsession with Garrett won't happen. Eagles are losing key pieces and Howie will not give up a ton of draft capital for him. He will replace those pieces through the draft

38 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I know power rankings are dumb but ESPN having the eagles at 4th in their year end PR is insane. 39th out of 59 Superbowl winners. :rolleyes:

Power Rankings, PFF scores, QBR... they are all things people made up to make the people who publish them look smart.  They all amount to nothing.  

 

I'm sure Barkley had a relatively low PFF score for the Super Bowl, because he didn't get a ton of yards, yet his blitz pickups were one of the keys to success.  This game doesn't go nearly as well if Hurts was running for his life like Mahomes had to.  

 

At the end of the day, football is the ultimate team sport, and we saw what happens when 53 men go out and dominate the other 53 men on a football field.  I don't think there was a single KC Chief to walk off the field that honestly could look in the mirror and feel that he had played better than the man across from him.  Total domination.   Final score: 40-6.

7 hours ago, NOTW said:

He's used all his words for the year, he's over it :lol:

 

 

I'd have to imagine his day in Disney was pure torture. A parade for 1 man and all eyes on him. Doesn't come remotely close to something I think he'd enjoy. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Who do we re-sign of our FAs if this happens? How do we replace the ones that leave when we’re out of picks and money?

Free agents to keep

  • Baun, Gainwell

Free agents to let walk

  • Becton, Sweat, Williams

June 1 Cuts

  • Slay, Bradberry

Trade

  • Huff (he doesn't want to be here)

Extension

  • Jurgens

 

We can fit Garrett in if we do that. Would require trading Huff for sure though. 

#1 offseason priority for me is re-signing Baun. An elite LOS is crucial, but we’ve all seen what happens when you don’t shore up the middle of the back 7 (QBs get the ball out quick, pick us apart). Both SB picks were from interior back 7 players. You don’t let top 5 guys walk.

A close #2 is edge. No way Howie is ok going into 2025 with just Nolan Smith, Jalyx Hunt, and Bryce Huff. I don’t think re-signing Sweat is off the table, though I wouldn’t do it. Probably will invest a 2nd round pick at the very least. They’ll call about Garrett, no doubt.

Becton’s market will be fascinating. Don’t think you can pay all 5 OL, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see Becton take a hometown discount. Based on how he’s acted all year, it seems worth the couple extra million per year for him not to be miserable.

36 minutes ago, just relax said:

Makes Calcaterra look like Gronk.

Kelce was bad... but the game plan was equally bad.  In 2022, we roasted Shanahan for isolating his TE on Reddick, and it caused the injury to Purdy, costing them any legitimate chance in that game.   What's different with this?  Only difference is the names... still isolating the TE (who's not known as a good blocker) on the Eagles' top sack guy.  Pure hubris on Andy's part.   Was it a matter of extreme fear that Jalen Carter would wreck the game plan?   Good job, Andy.  You came in with a wrecked game plan.  They also isolated Thuney at LT way too much without giving him any help either and Jalyx Hunt, the undersized, raw EDGE that was a year away from being a year away took him to the wood shed too!  

And I have to ask what the RB was doing on a lot of these chips.  It looked like he got sucked into the middle of the pocket rather than staying out wide to help on the edge... and ended up out of position and unable to do anything of consequence.  Bad all around pass protection from beginning to end.  

 

 

Oh, and did they even TRY to establish any type of running game to slow down the pass rush?   I don't recall many runs early either.  They were a couple that went basically no where, but Andy pulled the old Andy and gave up on it almost immediately.

I’d also re-sign Maddox to a team friendly 1-yr deal. Might as well. 

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’d also re-sign Maddox to a team friendly 1-yr deal. Might as well. 

They actually have some decisions to make at cb. 

So something I haven't seen a single person mention after the game:  what was with that random spread formation that ended up being a Gainwell handoff for like 3 yards?

That just sort of happened

34 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

There are multiple right and wrong ways to approach this offseason.  This is the first offseason in the history of my fandom where I just don't have a strong opinion...I trust whatever Howie/Fangio/Stoutland want to do.  Those 3 are making all the relevant decisions.

Baun/Williams/Sweat...Pretty sure Howie and Fangio can and will keep the ones they need to.

Becton...ditto Howie and Stoutland.

Fangio and Stoutland know what they do or don't have in Ojomo, Steen, Hunt.

There are a lot of permutations in who to keep and who to let walk...and it's really hard to prognosticate much in the draft until those decisions come to fruition.


DE will be a priority...but I don't think it needs to be a 1st round investment unless there is a player they can't pass up on.  Rotational depth feels more important to me.  

DT...let's see what happens with Williams.

OL...let's see what happens with Becton.  Ranges from a potential major draft need to us not even looking at many OL at any point in the draft.

TE...lots of directions here too.

My guess is the they take a DE, DT and OT with their first three picks. BPA after that. 

44 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I could see them trading pick 32 for more in rds 2,3,4

I did some draft math before the SB and proposing some ideas with the backup QBs based on the AJ Feely trade years ago. It's all based on a team needing/wanting a bridge QB or taking a change on McKee as a starter AND getting the same return they got for Feely (high 2nd) but if that's the case, the Eagles would have enough draft ammo with their 1st and 2 2nd round picks to move up to pick 7. 

There's not a whole lot of room on this team to add a huge draft class so trading down doesn't make a ton of sense this year unless they are getting a very good pick next year. If someone offers a 1st next year and a 3rd this year to move out of 32, of course you do it but I don't see that being the case.

I'm expecting a 4-5 man draft class.

39 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The 2018 draft is interesting from the #32 position.  The Dallas Goedert maneuver was fantastic.  Picked up future ammo and got a first round talent at a non-premium position who became a long term starter (immediate impact was modest).  

Then got Maddox, Sweat, and Mailata.

Technically, that draft was a grand slam...was instrumental in this championship...BUT...it actually had very minimal early impact, the lack of which was a part of their 2020 implosion.

The drafts prior were far more responsible:

2017: Barnett, Jones, Douglas, Hollins
2016: Wentz, Seumalo, Smallwood, Vaitai and Mills.
2015: Agholor, Rowe, Hicks

By 2020, only Seumalo was producing at a high level.  Jones, Douglas, Vaitai, Hollins, Smallwood, Agholor, Rowe and Hicks were gone.  Mills was moved to S.  

 

That's why they imploded.  And the recent string of really good drafts is why we just hoisted the Lombardi.  

Do we trust Kelee Ringo to be LCB in 2025? If so, CB is not a need. If yes, it becomes a big priority. 

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So something I haven't seen a single person mention after the game:  what was with that random spread formation that ended up being a Gainwell handoff for like 3 yards?

That just sort of happened

Tip of the cap to Chip Kelly

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They actually have some decisions to make at cb. 

They do? Quinyon, Cooper, Slay, Ricks and Ringo are all under contract. Isaiah Rodgers is also a RFA.

36 minutes ago, RLC said:

My only wish-list this off-season: go get Myles Garrett to replace Josh Sweat. 

That's a tall order.   But, I have to ask... does that mean if they lose Baun, Becton, Williams, etc.  you are ok with that as long as Garrett is added?

Baun is priority #1, and I think Fangio will see that it happens.

I have a lot of confidence in Jalyx Hunt, so I don't see Sweat coming back.

Becton would be nice to bring back, but not a need. I think he will come at a "hometown" discount, and that would be too hard to pass up.

Maddox can kick rocks.

Williams has just prices himself out. Unless he takes a massive pay cut, unfortunately I don't see him sticking around. Go get paid.

I would think about keeping Burks and VanSumeren, they shouldn't cost too much.

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