1 minute ago, RLC said:

Do we trust Kelee Ringo to be LCB in 2025? If so, CB is not a need. If yes, it becomes a big priority. 

Slay is back for 2025 IMO.

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Trade

• Huff (he doesn't want to be here)

The feeling is mutual, I'm sure.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a tall order.   But, I have to ask... does that mean if they lose Baun, Becton, Williams, etc.  you are ok with that as long as Garrett is added?

Not OK here.

9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So something I haven't seen a single person mention after the game:  what was with that random spread formation that ended up being a Gainwell handoff for like 3 yards?

That just sort of happened

I was wondering about that too... but they were dominating so much, I don't think they thought there was a reason to go back to it.   But, it might have been there just to see how they'd react to it, and then they could come back to it with Barkley.  They were clogging the middle up really well to stop Barkley.  Seemed like they had 12 in the box.  

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Do we trust Kelee Ringo to be LCB in 2025? If so, CB is not a need. If yes, it becomes a big priority. 

When he does get beat, he's usually in pretty good position. I think he needs the reps, but would like to see him compete for that spot. His special team reps will obviously go down, but he's so damn good out there too.

20 minutes ago, RLC said:

Free agents to keep

• Baun, Gainwell

Free agents to let walk

• Becton, Sweat, Williams

June 1 Cuts

• Slay, Bradberry

Trade

• Huff (he doesn't want to be here)

Extension

• Jurgens

 

We can fit Garrett in if we do that. Would require trading Huff for sure though. 

I have pretty much the same thoughts on the offseason except...Gainwell also gone.  Potentially keeping Becton along with Baun and in no way, shape or form getting Garrett.  Still though, dig the rest!

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

Do we trust Kelee Ringo to be LCB in 2025? If so, CB is not a need. If yes, it becomes a big priority. 

Have to trust what the coaches have seen, because frankly, we haven't seen much.   Rodgers has been the guy to come in.  What is Ringo?  He's a great gunner.   Beyond that?  Who knows?

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

Not OK here.

Same here.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

The 2018 draft is interesting from the #32 position.  The Dallas Goedert maneuver was fantastic.  Picked up future ammo and got a first round talent at a non-premium position who became a long term starter (immediate impact was modest).  

Then got Maddox, Sweat, and Mailata.

Technically, that draft was a grand slam...was instrumental in this championship...BUT...it actually had very minimal early impact, the lack of which was a part of their 2020 implosion.

Draft is strategic

Free agency is tactical

26 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’d also re-sign Maddox to a team friendly 1-yr deal. Might as well. 

He was pretty bad most of the year.  He had his good moments in the Super Bowl.  Let him leave on top

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Unsurprisingly, people are taking that and twisting it so that it seems like AJ Brown is unhappy in Philly and wants to leave or that he would rather lose with good stats than win

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Do we trust Kelee Ringo to be LCB in 2025? If so, CB is not a need. If yes, it becomes a big priority. 

Keep rodgers and let them compete

 

 

5 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Holy crap I just saw this, this is insane. I think he just went up my mental list, a lot. 2 days?

To think fans and media wanted to trade him and try to paint him as a negative attitude selfish type player. Even recently with his book thing there was scrutiny and trade rumors to NE. We are so lucky to have a receiver like him. We have waited forever for a great group like what we have now and part of the reason we didn't in the past was Andy's horrible drafting and decisions. Total redemption story in many ways with this Super Bowl win. Let's hope we just started our own dynasty here. 

@just relax

thoughts on Belton and Emery Jones?

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

The 2018 draft is interesting from the #32 position.  The Dallas Goedert maneuver was fantastic.  Picked up future ammo and got a first round talent at a non-premium position who became a long term starter (immediate impact was modest).  

Then got Maddox, Sweat, and Mailata.

Technically, that draft was a grand slam...was instrumental in this championship...BUT...it actually had very minimal early impact, the lack of which was a part of their 2020 implosion.

Fans are skewed by this year's draft and Carter who was a #1 overall talent.  Nolan Smith is a more typical good result (which is never guaranteed) which is that it takes a year.  This would be the year to get depth guys who can develop into starters.  I don't see a starter coming from this draft tho we all know stuff happens

I would guess bauns deal will be incentives based. I think both sides know this year will be hard to replicate.

Becton like others have said I think will take the hometown discount to stay here I hope. He said football hasn't been this fun and family like since high school.

Williams is probably gone. If he's healthy I wouldn't mind seeing what kind of deal hargrave takes. Him next to Carter would be insane if he's still got it.

 

Pep Hamilton would be interesting as a QB coach but looks like he just became oc for Maryland terps

25 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Kelce was bad... but the game plan was equally bad.  In 2022, we roasted Shanahan for isolating his TE on Reddick, and it caused the injury to Purdy, costing them any legitimate chance in that game.   What's different with this?  Only difference is the names... still isolating the TE (who's not known as a good blocker) on the Eagles' top sack guy.  Pure hubris on Andy's part.   Was it a matter of extreme fear that Jalen Carter would wreck the game plan?   Good job, Andy.  You came in with a wrecked game plan.  They also isolated Thuney at LT way too much without giving him any help either and Jalyx Hunt, the undersized, raw EDGE that was a year away from being a year away took him to the wood shed too!  

And I have to ask what the RB was doing on a lot of these chips.  It looked like he got sucked into the middle of the pocket rather than staying out wide to help on the edge... and ended up out of position and unable to do anything of consequence.  Bad all around pass protection from beginning to end.  

 

 

Oh, and did they even TRY to establish any type of running game to slow down the pass rush?   I don't recall many runs early either.  They were a couple that went basically no where, but Andy pulled the old Andy and gave up on it almost immediately.

I think you're being a touch too harsh with Andy here. The Chiefs' game plan was their usual - short quick throws underneath to control the clock and frustrate the opponent. However, what had worked all year didn't work against the Eagles. Those short throws were challenged; two were intercepted. The Eagles squeezed them. As far as the pass protection goes, they were outmanned everywhere. Of course they doubled Carter - they had no choice - but it became clear almost immediately that their other three OL could not handle whoever was in front of them. Yes, Kelce looks washed on those two plays posted here, but he was not alone. I would go so far as to say that sometime in the second quarter, the Chiefs quit. Not all of them, of course, but enough. 

42 minutes ago, RLC said:

Free agents to keep

• Baun, Gainwell

Free agents to let walk

• Becton, Sweat, Williams

June 1 Cuts

• Slay, Bradberry

Trade

• Huff (he doesn't want to be here)

Extension

• Jurgens

 

We can fit Garrett in if we do that. Would require trading Huff for sure though. 

Who starts at outside corner opposite of Mitchell?

We might not be able to count on Nakobe at all next year. Do we re-sign Burks and let him compete with Trotter Jr in camp?

4 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

I would guess bauns deal will be incentives based. I think both sides know this year will be hard to replicate.

Becton like others have said I think will take the hometown discount to stay here I hope. He said football hasn't been this fun and family like since high school.

Williams is probably gone. If he's healthy I wouldn't mind seeing what kind of deal hargrave takes. Him next to Carter would be insane if he's still got it.

 

Pep Hamilton would be interesting as a QB coach but looks like he just became oc for Maryland terps

Becton is what, 25? Keep him- he loves it here. Sweat and Williams were keys to the SB win. If you let them go, you BETTER have damn good replacements coming in. There are about 4 other FA's I would like to keep, but not really losing sleep if the move on. Gainwell can and probably will be replaced by Will Shipley. Let's hope to see more of "Howie the Magician."

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

We might not be able to count on Nakobe at all next year. Do we re-sign Burks and let him compete with Trotter Jr in camp?

Yes

7 minutes ago, just relax said:

I think you're being a touch too harsh with Andy here. The Chiefs' game plan was their usual - short quick throws underneath to control the clock and frustrate the opponent. However, what had worked all year didn't work against the Eagles. Those short throws were challenged; two were intercepted. The Eagles squeezed them. As far as the pass protection goes, they were outmanned everywhere. Of course they doubled Carter - they had no choice - but it became clear almost immediately that their other three OL could not handle whoever was in front of them. Yes, Kelce looks washed on those two plays posted here, but he was not alone. I would go so far as to say that sometime in the second quarter, the Chiefs quit. Not all of them, of course, but enough. 

I might be.    I didn't watch many Chiefs games this year... by choice.  I hate watching them, so if they were my other option on a Sunday... I found other things to fill my time.  (Actually, I find myself watching fewer and fewer other NFL games these days.  Maybe due to overexposure and games now on Thursday, Friday, and any other day they can manage to squeeze in a game.)

He looked washed through out the game before those isolation shots on him.  I expected the Chiefs to try to use him like Washington used Ertz.  I honestly don't know why they didn't.  On a few occasions, I suppose they did, but DeJean might have just been too good.  But, unlike Ertz, I don't think Kelce has the mental part of the game.   I think he's gotten by mostly on his athleticism, and now that that is waning, I don't see him having the longevity of Ertz.  Ertz just understands how to find the soft spots in a zone and how to manipulate the man covering him.   So, I think Ertz can play another year or two or even three, if the team he's on is willing to let him do that.   Kelce is done as a centerpiece of an offense.  

 

But, again, I still don't get why the game plan was for him to be in isolation blocking our EDGE.  It doesn't make sense.  And like I said, its exactly what ended the 49ers' chance 2 years ago in the NFC CG.  🤷‍♂️

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Who starts at outside corner opposite of Mitchell?

I think Ringo moves outside and let Cooper stay inside.  The advantage of Cooper inside is he makes it easier for Vic to have a light box with 5 db's. There's no need to move him when you can just keep him on the field full-time.  

46 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The 2018 draft is interesting from the #32 position.  The Dallas Goedert maneuver was fantastic.  Picked up future ammo and got a first round talent at a non-premium position who became a long term starter (immediate impact was modest).  

Then got Maddox, Sweat, and Mailata.

Technically, that draft was a grand slam...was instrumental in this championship...BUT...it actually had very minimal early impact, the lack of which was a part of their 2020 implosion.

I'm just catching up and didn't see your post and I posted the same thing. I think we need to look at the 2018 draft for our expectations and hopefully results this year. 

Sydney Brown, Kelee Ringo, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., BVS, Tyler Steen, Will Shipley, Ainias Smith, Johnny Wilson, Jahan Dotson, Eli Ricks, Thomas Booker, Lewis Cine, Byron Young, Gabe Hall and Andre' Sam are all players on the active roster and PS who I think could see bigger roles next year. Some might be on the PS but could be call ups. 

There just aren't a hole lot of roster spots available. I think Howie finds a way to bring back Baun, Becton, Williams and Rodgers. I see a potential of 7 open roster spots that COULD be a rookie.

I've gone back and forth on Williams based on some really valid points many on here have pointed out, but I just don't see Howie letting him leave. He's not just another potential starting DT, he's another freak next to Jalen Carter. Vic has a year under his belt watching these two guys play together. I'd imagine he can draw up even better schemes to utilize them.

Not to get all RR here, but Milton Williams is a 6-3 290lb DT who runs a 4.67, benches 225 34 times, has a 121" broad jump, 4.33 shuttle, 6.96 cone drill and a 38.5" vertical. Guy is a ridiculous athlete. His numbers are nearly identical if not better in some areas than Aaron Donald. There might be 24 potential starting grade DT in the draft, but how many are the athlete he is?

2025 Eagles:

QB- Hurts, Mckee/Pickett, rookie (I think they get a trade offer they can't refuse for one of the QBs. 3

RB- Barkley, Shipley, rookie. (Gainwell moves on). 6

WR- Brown, Smith, Dotson, A. Smith, Covey, Wilson. (Covey is back by default for the time being. Ainias Smith has a future here for another year. WR is set, maybe an UDFA but I don't see them using valuable draft resources with other holes). 12

TE- Goedert, Calcaterra, rookie. (Goedert restructures deal). 15

OL- Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Becton, Johnson, Steen, F. Johnson, Kinnard, Keegan, rookie (They run it back. Becton and F. Johnson sign. They like Kinnard and Keegan. Rookie replaces Toth). 25

DL- Carter, Williams, Ojomo, Davis, Booker/rookie, Smith, Hunt, FA, Huff, rookie (Williams is back, Khalil Mack is my FA target and they draft DT and DE. Booker becomes PS call up). 35

LB- Baun, Trotter, BVS, Burks (Baun and Burks are back. I wanted to draft a LB here but Burks value to the Eagles is too good with Dean on PUP). 39

CB- Mitchell, DeJean, Ringo, Rodgers, Slay, Ricks, rookie (Slay comes back on a restructure and Rodgers gets a bump in pay and a 2-year deal). 46

S- Blankenship, CJGJ, Brown, Cine, rookie (I'm betting on Cine to come in healthy and prove he belongs). 50

Specialist- Elliott, Mann, Lovato. (no changes) 53