15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I blame the Swifties. 

If he was rooting for the Chiefs and then put out a "Congratulations Eagles" tweet, I doubt many Philly fans would care. But all the swifties have to make it awkward online, which makes Jason have to carefully choose his words which then pisses off Eagles fans they don't get the simple congratulations tweet.

It's all very stupid. 

Swifties technically should be Eagles fans. Only reason they're cheering for Chiefs is because Taylor is dating Travis

Imagine if Swift came out with a new song mentioning us again. Swifties wouldn't know what to do

21 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

 

This is why I think they will repeat. Brown's comments, Howie was already preparing the offseason the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl. Fangio was reflective but still focused. Hurts is still stoic and all business. They're all enjoying this, but they're still hungry. They know what team they have, they know they can win more. The Georgia Dawgs are used to winning.

Their mentality this year was a huge change from last year's collapse. The playoff games cemented it, they are aggressive and focused. I hope the offseason disatractions with celebrations, media appearances and such aren't too much and they can take their vacations and rest and then come back ready for more.

2 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Draft is strategic

Free agency is tactical

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

To me, he's basically already reached free agency. I wouldn't doubt his agent already knows the range of what he'll get on the open market and tampering already has taken place. The time to convince Williams to sign was last offseason and its no secret Howie is always out on top of these things. The fact that he didn't leads me to believe one of two things.1) Howie isn't interested in re-signing him (doubtful). 2) Williams wants to get paid by whoever offers the most.

That may potentially be. I agree it’s probably more 2. But I don’t rule it out entirely that he re-signs him. We forget but Vinny curry was on the cusp of free agency and howie got a deal done. A lot of us thought he was gone. I’d not put it at a high percentage but i do think he’s going to try to get it done prior. I just don’t think it’s howie wouldn’t want to pay him as much as it’s he wants to test the market being this close and in FA he’s going to be overpaid.

baun and Beton also needed to get extensions based off how they were playing all year. None of them did either. Different as neither were under contract before last FA. based of what was reported they didn’t want to screw with things during this season. Which isn’t a surprise cause in 2017 they said the same thing. Frankly I’d bet that Williams is gone. Tbh I’m not so sure becton is 100% guaranteed to be back either. I think it’s more likely he’s back than Williams. 

12 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Yeah the podcast tweeted a congrats to the Eagles, and the Swifties cult were on them to disavow the Eagles, Jason to publicly address CJGJ's comments about Taylor, is this the kind of person he is and what he condones, etc. The mob/cancel culture mentality. They've taken over the podcast comment section. I stopped even watching their podcast last year. It used to be fun. 

I was one of those who was against Kelce's podcast right from the beginning; it always rubbed me the wrong way.  In the offseason?  No problem.  During the season?  No damn way.  Too much distraction, your focus becomes diluted and when the wrong thing gets said in that forum it becomes a distraction in the locker room.

This morning I heard a report on NFL Radio that Steve Smith was upset Cam Newton said on the Travis Hunter Show, "When I got to Carolina it was a room full of losers."  When I quit laughing at more Cam Newton stupidity my next thought was "how the F does Travis Hunter have his own show?  He hasn't even played a down in the NFL yet!"

If I was an NFL GM, and he was on my draft board, I'd be telling Hunter it'll be written into his contract that his piddly-ass 'show' gets mothballed during each NFL season.

24 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

You also have to remember that Howie had no problem paying Fletcher Cox, Malik Jackson and Javon Hargrave at the same time.

In 2020, Cox had a cap number of $17 million, Jackson $4.6 million and Hargrave $3.5 million. 

Howie LOVES paying for elite DL/OL.

Yes and that offseason when Cox was going to get his big contract, everyone panicked because Howie was extending/signing other guys but not him. I kept telling fans not to worry, Cox isn't going anywhere. What Howie did was really smart. He secured everyone else he wanted first so he knew how those contracts and cap impacts would be. Then, he was able to work on the 1 big contract and structure it in ways that fit with the other years. It would have been much harder to do Cox's contract first and then work on multiple other deals to maneuver them through the multiple years.

That's just one part of Howie's genius at this stuff. 

I don't know if they'll keep Williams, I feel like he will want a lot and they do have other priorities. I say Baun and Becton are priority, the rest we'll see. I trust them to make the right decisions, for Fangio to know which young guys/backups he trusts and for Howie to make it work. Can't keep everyone, but the core of the team will be secure.

18 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Yeah the podcast tweeted a congrats to the Eagles, and the Swifties cult were on them to disavow the Eagles, Jason to publicly address CJGJ's comments about Taylor, is this the kind of person he is and what he condones, etc. The mob/cancel culture mentality. They've taken over the podcast comment section. I stopped even watching their podcast last year. It used to be fun. 

The Swifties also found the restaurant that CJGJ's mom owns and bombarded it with negative 1* reviews. I find them to be unsufferable people. 

38 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It must be nice to be Darian Kinnard. 

3 Super Bowl Rings, 0 snaps played in any of them. 

 

Damn, that's actually 1 better than Lesean Mccoy. Didn't think that was possible. 😆

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

This is why I think they will repeat. Brown's comments, Howie was already preparing the offseason the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl. Fangio was reflective but still focused. Hurts is still stoic and all business. They're all enjoying this, but they're still hungry. They know what team they have, they know they can win more. The Georgia Dawgs are used to winning.

Their mentality this year was a huge change from last year's collapse. The playoff games cemented it, they are aggressive and focused. I hope the offseason disatractions with celebrations, media appearances and such aren't too much and they can take their vacations and rest and then come back ready for more.

I think they’ll have a chance because they still have a lot of talent. But this team is going to lose talent this off-season. they can hit on some guys in free agency like they did this year. To me need to see how things go in free agency and draft. Actually curious to see what the commanders do with the boatload of cap space they have. Imo the rams and commanders are the two teams that can make moves to get close to the eagles. I’d say the lions cause they have nearly $50 mil in cap but losing two coordinators is hard 

47 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't get the focus on Kelce.  Who gives a crap?   He's not a member of the organization in any way shape or form right now.   He's an alum.  Do we hold all the alum to this standard?  I didn't hear anything from Jeremy Maclin.  He must have been rooting for the Chiefs!    

Last year, the Eagles were bounced from the playoffs, and Jason got to be fully behind his brother's SB push and a push for a repeat.  It was probably a ton of fun for him, despite the ending for the Eagles.  

 

But, Jason is a member of the MEDIA now, not a member of the Philadelphia Eagles.  What he says now is completely irrelevant to the team.   And, his brother plays for the opposition.  I don't care what he says, I wouldn't care if he came out and said that he was 100% pulling for the Chiefs, because frankly, he had every right to.  I'm over seeing Kelce every time I turn on the TV.  In ads, on ESPN, he's everywhere.  That's fine.   Good for him.  

 

 

Frankly, who really cares?   Why do we expect that every former Eagles player has to be completely loyal to the franchise and not have other loyalties as well?   That's all I have to say about that, and frankly, I've wasted too much time as it is on this topic.  What Jason Kelce does in his life now and how he shares his thoughts... all of that is completely irrelevant to this franchise.  

Well said…and I believe he still is loyal to the Eagles.  Very few players have brothers that play for other franchises, let alone serious contenders.  He has every right to wish his brother well.  It would be kind of weird if he didn’t. He wouldn’t have been the kind of teammate that the Eagles enjoyed for years if he was like that.  I don’t get the hate either… I think it just comes down to some people being sick of seeing his face everywhere.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I was one of those who was against Kelce's podcast right from the beginning; it always rubbed me the wrong way.  In the offseason?  No problem.  During the season?  No damn way.  Too much distraction, your focus becomes diluted and when the wrong thing gets said in that forum it becomes a distraction in the locker room.

This morning I heard a report on NFL Radio that Steve Smith was upset Cam Newton said on the Travis Hunter Show, "When I got to Carolina it was a room full of losers."  When I quit laughing at more Cam Newton stupidity my next thought was "how the F does Travis Hunter have his own show?  He hasn't even played a down in the NFL yet!"

If I was an NFL GM, and he was on my draft board, I'd be telling Hunter it'll be written into his contract that his piddly-ass 'show' gets mothballed during each NFL season.

He was still playing like an all pro so people didn't care what he was doing off field

Howie of course also thinks years ahead. He's obviously aware of the star players on rookie deals that will need to get paid in subsequent years. He always prioritizes the line. 

2025: Jurgens, Blankenship, Jordan Davis, Dean, Goedert (which is why a lot of people think draft a TE this year), Pickett.

2026: Carter, Barkley, CJGJ, Nolan Smith, Steen, Ojomo, Ringo

What's crazy is he already has the following guys locked up long-term on this SB winning team: Lane til 2027, Dickerson, Hurts, Elliott, Smith, Mailata through 2028, AJ Brown 2029.

And he always restructures contracts to extend, move to signing bonuses, etc. He's the cap wizard.

 

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The Swifties also found the restaurant that CJGJ's mom owns and bombarded it with negative 1* reviews. I find them to be unsufferable people. 

So Eagles fans then review bombed the restaurant with positive reviews. It's silly but welcome to social media. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Howie of course also thinks years ahead. He's obviously aware of the star players on rookie deals that will need to get paid in subsequent years. He always prioritizes the line. 

2025: Jurgens, Blankenship, Jordan Davis, Dean, Goedert (which is why a lot of people think draft a TE this year), Pickett.

2026: Carter, Barkley, CJGJ, Nolan Smith, Steen, Ojomo, Ringo

What's crazy is he already has the following guys locked up long-term on this SB winning team: Lane til 2027, Dickerson, Hurts, Elliott, Smith, Mailata through 2028, AJ Brown 2029.

And he always restructures contracts to extend, move to signing bonuses, etc. He's the cap wizard.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we trade Goedert this year. His value will never be higher and this is the draft to replace him. Excellent player who is hurt every year. It's the first time in years we can trade him and actually gain cap space. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think they’ll have a chance because they still have a lot of talent. But this team is going to lose talent this off-season. they can hit on some guys in free agency like they did this year. To me need to see how things go in free agency and draft. Actually curious to see what the commanders do with the boatload of cap space they have. Imo the rams and commanders are the two teams that can make moves to get close to the eagles. I’d say the lions cause they have nearly $50 mil in cap but losing two coordinators is hard 

IMO the 3 guys who played the best in the Super Bowl were Sweat, Baun, and Milton Williams.  All 3 are UFA now.  Most of what I hear from the national sports guys (not that they really know) is they think Baun will be priced out of what the Eagles are willing to pay.  I think Dean's injury cements the need to sign Baun; if Howie doesn't get it done that will be a huge miss.  It would be malpractice to assume Dean with be healthy enough to replace him or think some other guy in free agency can.

Sweat is pretty much gone.  I think he knows that, and the Super Bowl was his audition to the open market.  For me, Sweat was the actual Super Bowl MVP.  

Williams is a player I really want to keep, but if the Eagles intend to pay Jordan Davis then Williams will go elsewhere as a "cap casualty" to get paid what he's worth.  Personally, I think Davis might be more replaceable than Milton Williams, but I seriously doubt the Eagles agree.

1 hour ago, MR-CYN said:

Seems just like yesterday when 90% of the EMB was livid with Howie for wasting a second rounder on a backup QB. Good times. 

You have to wonder if they hadn't drafted Jalen and the 2020 season went the way it went whether they would have run it back with Wentz or targeted a QB in the draft.  I know they supposedly were interested in Zach Wilson.  I imagine they would have not taken Trey Lance given they would be replacing Wentz with him. I think Fields also would have been in play.  

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He was still playing like an all pro so people didn't care what he was doing off field

I'm not entirely sure that's true, tbh.  Yes he was voted as such, but I don't think 2023 was his best year by a long shot.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

You have to wonder if they hadn't drafted Jalen and the 2020 season went the way it went whether they would have run it back with Wentz or targeted a QB in the draft.  I know they supposedly were interested in Zach Wilson.  I imagine they would have not taken Trey Lance given they would be replacing Wentz with him. I think Fields also would have been in play.  

They were reportedly interested in Jordan love too and liked him a lot 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think they’ll have a chance because they still have a lot of talent. But this team is going to lose talent this off-season. they can hit on some guys in free agency like they did this year. To me need to see how things go in free agency and draft. Actually curious to see what the commanders do with the boatload of cap space they have. Imo the rams and commanders are the two teams that can make moves to get close to the eagles. I’d say the lions cause they have nearly $50 mil in cap but losing two coordinators is hard 

I expect they re-sign Becton, he is thankful for them giving him a chance and being treated like family after failure with the Jets. So the entire starting offense returns (we'll see what happens with Gainwell).

On defense, thankfully Howie drafted well and the core are younger players. Re-signing Baun is a must. Burks can be re-signed on a friendly deal. Graham retires, Maddox walks, Rodgers we'll see but won't be a huge contract.

So the only real issues are Sweat and Williams. They both want big contracts. If Fangio is confident in letting both of them walk, they don't have to pay them. And they will draft replacements to mix into the group they have. They do a good job drafting linemen. And with no real glaring needs going into the draft, he can trade up for talent or just load up the defensive line, again. 

I feel confident they will handle the offseason well, and be primed to repeat SB next year.

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we trade Goedert this year. His value will never be higher and this is the draft to replace him. Excellent player who is hurt every year. It's the first time in years we can trade him and actually gain cap space. 

Calcaterra, while he still has room to improve, has shown he's at least a willing blocker. He's far from great, but it's not like he's shying away from contact. 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think they’ll have a chance because they still have a lot of talent. But this team is going to lose talent this off-season. they can hit on some guys in free agency like they did this year. To me need to see how things go in free agency and draft. Actually curious to see what the commanders do with the boatload of cap space they have. Imo the rams and commanders are the two teams that can make moves to get close to the eagles. I’d say the lions cause they have nearly $50 mil in cap but losing two coordinators is hard 

For sure a chance to repeat.  Roster is loaded.  But we do have a lot of void years in contracts so will defer to the experts on the board here on how best to unwind that.  Really adds up.  Can see what people were talking about.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I'm not entirely sure that's true, tbh.  Yes he was voted as such, but I don't think 2023 was his best year by a long shot.

True but that's not the same thing. He was given an accolade as the best center in the league for that specific year. Not playing the best of his career

22 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Swifties technically should be Eagles fans. Only reason they're cheering for Chiefs is because Taylor is dating Travis

Imagine if Swift came out with a new song mentioning us again. Swifties wouldn't know what to do

That's the problem when people get too worked up about celebrities. If/when Swift and Kelce break up, they'll hate him, the podcast will lose followers, they'll smear him. People get let down all the time when they put celebrities on a pedestal and then they have character issues or some controversy. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Frankly, who really cares?   Why do we expect that every former Eagles player has to be completely loyal to the franchise and not have other loyalties as well?

I think there is a bit of a difference when you're talking about the SB and one of your Mt Rushmore guys.  You'd expect them to be clearly behind the team.

A tricky situation for Jason in any case and I have no issue with how he's handled it.  We all know he was rooting for the Eagles while still being loyal to his brother.