8 minutes ago, RLC said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we trade Goedert this year. His value will never be higher and this is the draft to replace him. Excellent player who is hurt every year. It's the first time in years we can trade him and actually gain cap space. 

I would be fine with that.

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

IMO the 3 guys who played the best in the Super Bowl were Sweat, Baun, and Milton Williams.  All 3 are UFA now.  Most of what I hear from the national sports guys (not that they really know) is they think Baun will be priced out of what the Eagles are willing to pay.  I think Dean's injury cements the need to sign Baun; if Howie doesn't get it done that will be a huge miss.  It would be malpractice to assume Dean with be healthy enough to replace him or think some other guy in free agency can.

Sweat is pretty much gone.  I think he knows that, and the Super Bowl was his audition to the open market.  For me, Sweat was the actual Super Bowl MVP.  

Williams is a player I really want to keep, but if the Eagles intend to pay Jordan Davis then Williams will go elsewhere as a "cap casualty" to get paid what he's worth.  Personally, I think Davis might be more replaceable than Milton Williams, but I seriously doubt the Eagles agree.

Jordan Davis, while he had sacks in back to back games, is still just playing 12 snaps a game. Are you going to pay him instead of paying Milton Williams? Williams is a damn wrecking ball and can play across the line. You can line him up inside or outside. Davis plays one position and is on the bench more than he's in the game. 

They have control over Davis for the next 2 years at $5 million and $11 million if they pick up his option. No need to rush to extend him unless it significantly drops that $11 million and his contract is very manageable moving forward. I don't want to overpay for him and then get stuck with him for how little he plays. A wild card here could be Gabe Hall. Can he eat up 12-14 snaps a game? 

16 hours ago, NOTW said:

I loved that gutsy call, because the Chiefs were expecting them to run Barkley for just that reason. They were smart and outcoached Spags and Reid (think about that wow) and took a shot downfield to put the dagger.

Yeah, it was the coaching aspect that had me concerned pre game.

But seeing Reid standing there scratching his arse with that " what's going on here" look slapped all over his chevy chase was glorious. 

Let's have it right, that was as complete a performance as you could get from the Eagles, right across the board.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Can you explain what nothing to restructure means? Can't he sign a new deal that erases this deal? Sorry, I'm not 100% in the know of how they work, trying to understand the more I read about stuff.

Jalen Hurts seems like the guy who is going to do what's best for the team.

So typically what you see around the league or saw in the past with these monster contracts are they are structured so that the back-end years have huge base salaries. Those high base salaries are what GM's will approach the player about and restructure. So lets say Hurts had a base salary of $40M in 2026. Howie would say "Here's a check for $35M of that $40M right now" and then he could spread out that $35M over 5 years to reduce the cap hit. In simple terms, his cap would go from $40M in 2026 to $12M..

But, Howie has stopped that old process and for most of the contracts, including Hurts, and started a new one. Option bonuses every year. Hurts contract is structured that his highest base salary is in 2028 and is only $1,4M. Every year his base salary is set to be vet minimum for what year he's in the NFL. The bulk of his money comes from him getting a big check for his option bonuses every year. Then for the cap, those bonuses are spread out 5 years from the year they are paid. Essentially, Howie set it up so that he is basically getting restructured every single year of his contract. So that's why I say there is nothing to restructure, because it basically already is being restructured.

These bonuses are guaranteed through 2026 as is. And some in 2027 will become guaranteed in 2026. I suppose the one thing they could do is extend him in 2026/2027 and for Hurts to push some of those larger option bonuses back which would allow the Eagles to kick the can down the road more. It would be a sacrifice from Hurts but it would really just be when he gets his money. 

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I think there is a bit of a difference when you're talking about the SB and one of your Mt Rushmore guys.  You'd expect them to be clearly behind the team.

A tricky situation for Jason in any case and I have no issue with how he's handled it.  We all know he was rooting for the Eagles while still being loyal to his brother.

They filmed it 2 days after the loss.  I'm sure someday he's going to say, 'Bro you have 3 rings' but that wasn't the day to do it

28 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Swifties technically should be Eagles fans. Only reason they're cheering for Chiefs is because Taylor is dating Travis

Imagine if Swift came out with a new song mentioning us again. Swifties wouldn't know what to do

Swifties are Swift fans, they couldn't care less who the team is. They are basically a cult that will just follow Swifts lead. If Swift came out tomorrow head to toe in Eagles championship gear, they would sell out fanatics. 

56 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I really think people are underestimating the impact Milton Williams has. He just had 2 sacks a FF and FR in the biggest game of his life. His snap counts continue to go up and he'd be going in to his 2nd year under the Fangio defense. 

He has the same athletic tools that Aaron Donald had and it's finally starting to show every week. There's no guarantee that the next guy is going to come in and produce. Milton is just entering his prime.

Watch the Super Bowl again. That DL was FEASTING and he was an enormous part of it. I don't want that to go away. I want that DL game in and game out. A big part of that was Josh Sweat, but Milton Williams was unblockable. He can't get overpaid by another team if Howie doesn't let him out the door. 

He's not going to sign early now.   Why should he?    He made it through the year injury free.  The risk is gone now.  He can wait and see what the market will bear.  He's going to be hotly pursued and get a big number where ever he signs.   I don't know that the Eagles can afford that.  It's a shame, but that's the nature of the beast.  Signing Williams likely makes signing ANY of the other free agents on the team almost completely impossible.   The Eagles can likely get Baun AND Becton for the price of just Williams.  And good for him.  He deserves every penny.  But, he's likely going to get a 5 year, $100+M contract.  

10 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I expect they re-sign Becton, he is thankful for them giving him a chance and being treated like family after failure with the Jets. So the entire starting offense returns (we'll see what happens with Gainwell).

On defense, thankfully Howie drafted well and the core are younger players. Re-signing Baun is a must. Burks can be re-signed on a friendly deal. Graham retires, Maddox walks, Rodgers we'll see but won't be a huge contract.

So the only real issues are Sweat and Williams. They both want big contracts. If Fangio is confident in letting both of them walk, they don't have to pay them. And they will draft replacements to mix into the group they have. They do a good job drafting linemen. And with no real glaring needs going into the draft, he can trade up for talent or just load up the defensive line, again. 

I feel confident they will handle the offseason well, and be primed to repeat SB next year.

OK, this is my only argument to everybody saying it’s definitive that becton is going to be back. I get he’s grateful to the Eagles for allowing him to get back into loving football and being the player that he was this year. There’s also the chance that the Eagles and stoutland think that Tyler Steen can make the jump to where Becton was this year and is cheaper for the next two years than paying becton so they can allocate the money else where

Do I think it’s more likely becton is back than Milton Williams? Yeah I think it’s more likely. Do I think he’s more likely to just be back? Yes, I do. But I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibilities that if Jeff stoutland thinks that Tyler Steen can make the jump to where becton was this year next year or close to it that the eagles allocate that money elsewhere and take the comp pick they are going to get. Don’t forget it took seumalo until his 3rd year to play at a starting level. Where steen is and stoutland/eagles took him in the 3rd round 

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

IMO the 3 guys who played the best in the Super Bowl were Sweat, Baun, and Milton Williams.  All 3 are UFA now.  Most of what I hear from the national sports guys (not that they really know) is they think Baun will be priced out of what the Eagles are willing to pay.  I think Dean's injury cements the need to sign Baun; if Howie doesn't get it done that will be a huge miss.  It would be malpractice to assume Dean with be healthy enough to replace him or think some other guy in free agency can.

Sweat is pretty much gone.  I think he knows that, and the Super Bowl was his audition to the open market.  For me, Sweat was the actual Super Bowl MVP.  

Williams is a player I really want to keep, but if the Eagles intend to pay Jordan Davis then Williams will go elsewhere as a "cap casualty" to get paid what he's worth.  Personally, I think Davis might be more replaceable than Milton Williams, but I seriously doubt the Eagles agree.

I think Williams is a good player but replaceable.  I think Ojomo flashed enough and there's a deep draft class that keeping him doesn't make sense.  Baun should be the top priority.  The player that isn't getting any talk about re-signing is CJGJ.  I think he should be a priority over Williams as well.  It would be great to keep Sweat but he's going to get a ton in free agency.  

57 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t entirely rule it out that they bring back Milton Williams. Back in 2016, a lot of us thought Vinny Curry was going to be gone.  he needed a new contract and he was coming off a nice year. Many didn’t think we would be able to get that contract done before free agency hit as he was so close to FA and that he’d have wanted to  test the market and likely get more than we wanted to pay. And then just before free agency Howie got it done. If he reaches free agency, I think he’s gone. somebody’s gonna overpay him because that’s how free agency works and there’s a bunch of teams with money.

Howie will be monitoring, but I think he's going to be too pricey.   I'd love to have him back, but I just don't see it happening.    Curry also was a guy who grew up an Eagles fan.  Williams did not.  He might not have the same loyalty.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Swifties are Swift fans, they couldn't care less who the team is. They are basically a cult that will just follow Swifts lead. If Swift came out tomorrow head to toe in Eagles championship gear, they would sell out fanatics. 

We just need to make sure they never end up posting here. 

Slay/Gainwell - I think both get a team friendly offer and told if they want to test the market then they get a very warm handshake and a good luck.

Baun - This is the guy who you figure out.  I see a big up front bonus that spreads over 3 or 4 years with a small salary in 2025 and then incentives to drive it up.

Williams/Sweat - We can't pay them and they will leave to cash in.

Becton - This is the one I'm having a hard time figuring out.

Graham - I think he goes one more year and is given a mid round project to mentor.

54 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Well said.

It's his brother, who he spent his entire life with - good times and bad - of course he's going to support him (one way or another).  Who wouldn't support their own brother?

That said, I think Jason would have wanted to see a much closer game - if it was a nail biter and the Eagles won - everyone would have left with their heads raised high, etc. 

The fact that it was domination from start to finish and his brother didn't do much is what I think bothers him.  No one wants to see their own brother get beat like that in any game, let alone the Super Bowl.  I don't blame him. 

 

His brother was embarrassed out there, quite frankly.

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

That's the problem when people get too worked up about celebrities. If/when Swift and Kelce break up, they'll hate him, the podcast will lose followers, they'll smear him. People get let down all the time when they put celebrities on a pedestal and then they have character issues or some controversy. 

 

 

Put me into the group who believes that day is coming because it's quite unlikely Travis Kelce is straight

 

I think Baun is like Becton, realizes he was given a chance here and won't want to leave. Howie will pay them both well, and they will remain on a SB winning team with chance to repeat. Howie can also structure with bonuses or whatever cap magic he does. Lots of players take deals here like Smitty did, yet could get more elsewhere. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

So typically what you see around the league or saw in the past with these monster contracts are they are structured so that the back-end years have huge base salaries. Those high base salaries are what GM's will approach the player about and restructure. So lets say Hurts had a base salary of $40M in 2026. Howie would say "Here's a check for $35M of that $40M right now" and then he could spread out that $35M over 5 years to reduce the cap hit. In simple terms, his cap would go from $40M in 2026 to $12M..

But, Howie has stopped that old process and for most of the contracts, including Hurts, and started a new one. Option bonuses every year. Hurts contract is structured that his highest base salary is in 2028 and is only $1,4M. Every year his base salary is set to be vet minimum for what year he's in the NFL. The bulk of his money comes from him getting a big check for his option bonuses every year. Then for the cap, those bonuses are spread out 5 years from the year they are paid. Essentially, Howie set it up so that he is basically getting restructured every single year of his contract. So that's why I say there is nothing to restructure, because it basically already is being restructured.

These bonuses are guaranteed through 2026 as is. And some in 2027 will become guaranteed in 2026. I suppose the one thing they could do is extend him in 2026/2027 and for Hurts to push some of those larger option bonuses back which would allow the Eagles to kick the can down the road more. It would be a sacrifice from Hurts but it would really just be when he gets his money. 

I have a lot to learn about contracts. So damn confusing. 

OK so for 2025, OTC has Hurts base salary at $1.17 million. Prorated bonus's at $4.6 million signing and $16 million option. Those numbers all together equal his cap number of $21.8 million. Where does the $42 million guaranteed salary come from?

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Swifties are Swift fans, they couldn't care less who the team is. They are basically a cult that will just follow Swifts lead. If Swift came out tomorrow head to toe in Eagles championship gear, they would sell out fanatics. 

Also true and that would be hilarious to see

Seeing as how she's at the games now (though in support of Travis) I wonder if she'd come to Eagles games if/when they broke up

Could you imagine if they joined the board

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

But, again, I still don't get why the game plan was for him to be in isolation blocking our EDGE.  It doesn't make sense.  And like I said, its exactly what ended the 49ers' chance 2 years ago in the NFC CG.  🤷‍♂️

OCs too often draw up Xs and Os and don't think enough about match ups.

Eagles tried that with Ertz and even Calcaterra (with Goddert out) and of course it was a disaster.

If you want a TE to block an edge rusher, you need a true blocking TE, 260+ lb guy with good technique, not a receiver first guy who can hit LBs on the second level but lacks the sand in his pants and/or technique to handle a DE.

There's a great clip of Gronk talking about a practice play where they had him pull and block Wilfork, after getting knocked back 5 yards, after that when they called it he'd just hug Wilfork.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

We just need to make sure they never end up posting here. 

Lol you got to it first. I was looking for a gif

Between Sweat and Williams do you think they would have success on other teams (depending on which team and talent around them of course), or do you think either of them would be playing worse because they wouldn't be benefiting from the talent here and Fangio's coaching?

 

52 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

That was great.  I posted it from instagram yesterday, but given that it was only the link, I'm not sure many people clicked to enjoy it.  It was awesome.

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think they’ll have a chance because they still have a lot of talent. But this team is going to lose talent this off-season. they can hit on some guys in free agency like they did this year. To me need to see how things go in free agency and draft. Actually curious to see what the commanders do with the boatload of cap space they have. Imo the rams and commanders are the two teams that can make moves to get close to the eagles. I’d say the lions cause they have nearly $50 mil in cap but losing two coordinators is hard 

Also have to factor in injuries. Going to two Super Bowls and only missing 1 starter between both is absurd. They clearly have been doing something that works but just bad luck alone changes that. We saw some of that this year but they were still fortunate they weren't season ending injuries. 

Just look what happened to the Lions. No team can overcome that. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

That was great.  I posted it from instagram yesterday, but given that it was only the link, I'm not sure many people clicked to enjoy it.  It was awesome.

Yeah i wish IG would post videos like YouTube does on here. Cause i definitely missed it. 

Becton will probably come down to Stoutland, if he tells Howie that Steen/Keegan can take over, the price goes down.

They need a 3rd OT with upside (given Mailata and Lane are unlikely to play 17 games) more than Becton.

If Baun's price tag is just too rich for the Eagles blood. Thoughts on Nick Bolton or Akeem Davis-Gaither? Bolton is a hell of a linebacker. ADK is a guy I wanted in the draft.