2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Everyone should do this by position....2022 Eagles vs. 2024 Eagles.  

QB: 2022 Hurts vs. 2024 Hurts.  Despite the solid NFCCG, I am still giving a solid advantage to 2022.  The level of confidence, lack of drama, comfort with higher volume passing...all clearly better that year.

RB: Sanders/Gainwell vs. Barkley/Gainwell.  Incomparable.  Even present-day Gainwell is better than his 2022 version...and probably close to Miles Sanders too.

WR1: 2022 Brown vs. 2024 Brown.  Again, advantage 2022.  More confidence, less drama, less banged up.

TE: 2022 Goedert/Stoll/Calcaterra vs. 2024 Goedert/Calcaterra.  Push.  Goedert is more injury prone, maybe a hair less effective, but he's still close enough and good for this game.  That is compensated by the significant improvements we've seen from Calcaterra, who wasn't really playable then.

LT: Mailata.  Push.
LG: Dickerson. Push.
C; Kelce vs. Jurgens.  2022...but closer to a push than anyone will admit.
RG: Seumalo vs. Becton.  Push.  Seumalo better in pass pro with fewer miscues, Becton draws even because he is truly a weapon in this offense.
RT: 2022 Lane vs. 2024 Lane.  Advantage 2024.  Lane has been healthier this year...they duct taped him through the playoffs in 2022.

Edge 1: Reddick vs. Smith.  Honestly, Smith has been as good in the playoffs as Reddick was.  But you have to go with a prime 16 sack probowl/all-pro who led a defense that was all about pass rush.
Edge 2: 2022 Sweat vs. 2024 Sweat.  Edge to 2022.  Sweat was just better then.

DT1: Cox vs. Carter.  Prime Cox may be in a similar ball park to Carter, but 2022 Cox was not.  Heavy advantage 2024.
DT2: Hargrave vs. Williams/Davis.  Hargrave snips this by only the narrowest of margins.  He was pretty damn good that year.

ILB: TJ Edwards vs. Baun.  Incomparable, 2024.
ILB: White vs. Burks.  Push.

CB1: Slay vs. Michell.  Advantage Mitchell.  (see how I'm doing this one...)
CB2: Bradberry vs. Slay.  SB Bradberry and 2023 Bradberry turned his name into dirt.  But 2022 Bradberry?  I think he was potentially even better than 2024 Slay.  Still, will call it a push.
CB3: Maddox vs. Dejean: incomparable.

S: 2022 CJGJ vs. 2024 CJGJ.  Some will argue the present version is a bit more reliable.  But I'll call it a push.
S: Epps vs. Blankenship.  Advantage Blankenship.

ST coverage: They were a major liability in 2022, not in 2024.  Advantage 2024.
P: Siposs vs. Mann.  Advantage 2024.
K: 2022 Elliott vs. 2024 Elliott.  Incomparable.  2022.

 

Honestly, I think the Eagles were a slightly better team in 2022 than 2024.  The biggest differences were a defensive choke/turf job in the 2022 SB (hindsight), a different level of confidence in the passing game in 2024, the Barkley factor...and, maybe most importantly, the fact that the Chiefs are a lesser team than they were in 2022.

I get going player for player, but for the defense specifically I think it’s important to look at 2024 vs. 2022 schedule. This year the defense has faced Love (2x), Burrow, Lamar, Stafford (2x), Daniels (3x), and you can throw Bryce Young’s good stretch in there too if you want. They went 9-1 in those games. 
 

Looking at the 2022 schedule, I honestly don’t know who you can say was the best QB they faced not counting Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Rodgers maybe but GB went 8-9 that year. It was probably Dak in the week 16 matchup that Minshew started. Maybe Goff but he wasn’t 2023 and 2024 Goff yet. 
 

This year’s defense is so much more battle tested and has held their own against very good to elite QBs. You can’t say the same for the 2022 defense. 

This man is a clown, glad he never won one. His explanation about impact is so stupid 
 

 

Deadpanned press conference Hurts vs. on field Hurts are two different people 

 

26 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

This man is a clown, glad he never won one. His explanation about impact is so stupid 
 

 

He’s summed it up perfectly, you have to give him that.  He is entirely selfish, and if he’d been talented enough to be a Hall of Famer, would have introduced himself at the ceremony and gone in without a uniform.  That abomination of an outfit would be all he wore instead of a gold jacket.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Everyone should do this by position....2022 Eagles vs. 2024 Eagles.  

QB: 2022 Hurts vs. 2024 Hurts.  Despite the solid NFCCG, I am still giving a solid advantage to 2022.  The level of confidence, lack of drama, comfort with higher volume passing...all clearly better that year.

RB: Sanders/Gainwell vs. Barkley/Gainwell.  Incomparable.  Even present-day Gainwell is better than his 2022 version...and probably close to Miles Sanders too.

WR1: 2022 Brown vs. 2024 Brown.  Again, advantage 2022.  More confidence, less drama, less banged up.

TE: 2022 Goedert/Stoll/Calcaterra vs. 2024 Goedert/Calcaterra.  Push.  Goedert is more injury prone, maybe a hair less effective, but he's still close enough and good for this game.  That is compensated by the significant improvements we've seen from Calcaterra, who wasn't really playable then.

LT: Mailata.  Push.
LG: Dickerson. Push.
C; Kelce vs. Jurgens.  2022...but closer to a push than anyone will admit.
RG: Seumalo vs. Becton.  Push.  Seumalo better in pass pro with fewer miscues, Becton draws even because he is truly a weapon in this offense.
RT: 2022 Lane vs. 2024 Lane.  Advantage 2024.  Lane has been healthier this year...they duct taped him through the playoffs in 2022.

Edge 1: Reddick vs. Smith.  Honestly, Smith has been as good in the playoffs as Reddick was.  But you have to go with a prime 16 sack probowl/all-pro who led a defense that was all about pass rush.
Edge 2: 2022 Sweat vs. 2024 Sweat.  Edge to 2022.  Sweat was just better then.

DT1: Cox vs. Carter.  Prime Cox may be in a similar ball park to Carter, but 2022 Cox was not.  Heavy advantage 2024.
DT2: Hargrave vs. Williams/Davis.  Hargrave snips this by only the narrowest of margins.  He was pretty damn good that year.

ILB: TJ Edwards vs. Baun.  Incomparable, 2024.
ILB: White vs. Burks.  Push.

CB1: Slay vs. Michell.  Advantage Mitchell.  (see how I'm doing this one...)
CB2: Bradberry vs. Slay.  SB Bradberry and 2023 Bradberry turned his name into dirt.  But 2022 Bradberry?  I think he was potentially even better than 2024 Slay.  Still, will call it a push.
CB3: Maddox vs. Dejean: incomparable.

S: 2022 CJGJ vs. 2024 CJGJ.  Some will argue the present version is a bit more reliable.  But I'll call it a push.
S: Epps vs. Blankenship.  Advantage Blankenship.

ST coverage: They were a major liability in 2022, not in 2024.  Advantage 2024.
P: Siposs vs. Mann.  Advantage 2024.
K: 2022 Elliott vs. 2024 Elliott.  Incomparable.  2022.

 

Honestly, I think the Eagles were a slightly better team in 2022 than 2024.  The biggest differences were a defensive choke/turf job in the 2022 SB (hindsight), a different level of confidence in the passing game in 2024, the Barkley factor...and, maybe most importantly, the fact that the Chiefs are a lesser team than they were in 2022.

You have omitted a key comparison 

2022 Sirianni vs 2024 Sirianni = 2024 by a nose

2022 Steichen vs 2024 Moore = push 2022 better in passing and 2024 better in rushing and 2024 better in turnovers

2022 Gannon vs 2024 Fangio = incomparable 

59 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I get going player for player, but for the defense specifically I think it’s important to look at 2024 vs. 2022 schedule. This year the defense has faced Love (2x), Burrow, Lamar, Stafford (2x), Daniels (3x), and you can throw Bryce Young’s good stretch in there too if you want. They went 9-1 in those games. 
 

Looking at the 2022 schedule, I honestly don’t know who you can say was the best QB they faced not counting Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Rodgers maybe but GB went 8-9 that year. It was probably Dak in the week 16 matchup that Minshew started. Maybe Goff but he wasn’t 2023 and 2024 Goff yet. 
 

This year’s defense is so much more battle tested and has held their own against very good to elite QBs. You can’t say the same for the 2022 defense. 

They have been a turnover machine as well.

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Jeremiah had James Pearce going end of round 1 at 32. I'd love if he fell to the Eagles. Although drafting another Tennessee edge... 😬

There are quite a few Edges that are likely to be available at the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd.  Quite a few DTs as well.  Howie will be in an enviable position.

1 hour ago, pisceschica said:

This man is a clown, glad he never won one. His explanation about impact is so stupid 
 

 

I NEVER watch this show, yet for some reason I had it on in the background while getting ready.....

 

All I could focus on was Cam's hat that apparently was covered in bird s***

59 minutes ago, paco said:

I NEVER watch this show, yet for some reason I had it on in the background while getting ready.....

 

All I could focus on was Cam's hat that apparently was covered in bird s***

It works for him.

Because he has s*** for brains.

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

He’s summed it up perfectly, you have to give him that.  He is entirely selfish, and if he’d been talented enough to be a Hall of Famer, would have introduced himself at the ceremony and gone in without a uniform.  That abomination of an outfit would be all he wore instead of a gold jacket.

That’s the thing neither one is going to the HOF. But at least Foles has the ring, memories, and Lombardi/mvp. 

4 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Brady low key rooting for the Eagles.  He doesn't want Mahomes to get a 3 peat.

He wants to stay the GOAT

3 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I get going player for player, but for the defense specifically I think it’s important to look at 2024 vs. 2022 schedule. This year the defense has faced Love (2x), Burrow, Lamar, Stafford (2x), Daniels (3x), and you can throw Bryce Young’s good stretch in there too if you want. They went 9-1 in those games. 
 

Looking at the 2022 schedule, I honestly don’t know who you can say was the best QB they faced not counting Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Rodgers maybe but GB went 8-9 that year. It was probably Dak in the week 16 matchup that Minshew started. Maybe Goff but he wasn’t 2023 and 2024 Goff yet. 
 

This year’s defense is so much more battle tested and has held their own against very good to elite QBs. You can’t say the same for the 2022 defense. 

The 2022 defense can S my D for that shameful second half. Fire them into the Sun.   

The 2022 team and the 2024 team are like Twin Brothers but I think this team is slightly better plus they took the longer road to the Bowl and got there. 

7 hours ago, pisceschica said:

This man is a clown, glad he never won one. His explanation about impact is so stupid 
 

 

Cam Newton is living proof that you can sell the stupidest crap imaginable to idiots with money if you tell them it gives them drip.

He looks like the result of a teleporter accident involving Purple Rain era Prince and the lead singer of 4 Non Blondes.

 

4 hours ago, jamiller said:

The 2022 defense can S my D for that shameful second half. Fire them into the Sun.   

The defense as a whole and Saquon B. are the main reasons that this team is better than the 22 team IMO. Honorable mentions also goes to the Special Teams, except for Jake, who is way worse. 
 

it took me a long time to believe in this defense, but they have proven that they are elite this year. They have gone against a bunch of good QBs and really only got owned by Baker Mayfield. Yes, the second Commanders game wasn’t good either, but that also had other reasons for their performance in the second half. 
 

I was not a believer in Fangio and his defense, but he/they proved me wrong completely this year. Because of that I feel more confident than I did in 22. 

There has been a lot of talk about how Nick S needs to stay aggressive situationally this time (all talk being about the offense) ie: not punting on 4th and 5 in SB 57

The scenario that I'm most concerned about is on defense.

If KC has the ball late with a chance to win, I hope Fangio plans to stay aggressive and not sit back like he's done late in other games.

Don't get reckless and start blitzing, but don't go full prevent either.

Visions of Kirk Cousins, Daniels, Stafford, even Trevor Lawrence making easy game winning drives because we got way too conservative.

If we find ourselves in that situation, then I'd rather live with getting burnt playing to our strength than sitting back and giving them a game winning drive.

The aggressive approach by Jim Schwartz is what allowed us to finish off NE. It has to be something that they plan for playing against Mahomes, because in all likelihood he will have a chance late.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree.  Howie will almost surely be trading out of Round One.

To what end, though?

we have extra picks already. Now if he can turn it into a 2026 firat you have my attention

7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

To what end, though?

we have extra picks already. Now if he can turn it into a 2026 firat you have my attention

We can trade up or stay put just as well, I don't think anything is for sure. If a d-lineman is sitting there in the 20's that they didn't expect to see fall, I could see them absolutely jumping up some, especially to get ahead of Detroit. Or, staying at 31/32 gives you that extra option year on the contract which could be very important. We are a bit short on picks this year but I'm not moving back just for extra picks if we are losing out on a higher tier d-lineman. If there's a few guys left when we are on the clock then I'd see about moving back a few. 

1 hour ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

The defense as a whole and Saquon B. are the main reasons that this team is better than the 22 team IMO. Honorable mentions also goes to the Special Teams, except for Jake, who is way worse. 
 

 

Interesting stat, in 2022 Jake made 96.2% of his regular season extra points, this year he made 98.6%

Also the only other year Jake missed extra points in the play offs?  2017.

8 hours ago, pisceschica said:

This man is a clown, glad he never won one. His explanation about impact is so stupid 
 

 

While I kind of understand his point, people look back on Cam Newton as a frustrating failure.  Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles…they didn’t belong as long term starters.  But when the fans of the Eagles, Ravens, and Bucs look back on them…they are remembered fondly (idolized in some cases).   Cam Newton has kinds making fun of him at his own football camps.

 

Listening to Baldy. Calling Trey Smith the best RG in football. Didn't realize he was quite that good... Also raving about Andy's double TE set in the back field along with Hunt. Brand new formation they created for the Bills game. They scored off it twice. Just got a little extra nervous watching some of their breakdowns. Siri/Vic better have something cooked up for these guys. 

Vics prevent and Siri's bubble screens aren't going to get it done next Sunday. 

37 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

There has been a lot of talk about how Nick S needs to stay aggressive situationally this time (all talk being about the offense) ie: not punting on 4th and 5 in SB 57

The scenario that I'm most concerned about is on defense.

If KC has the ball late with a chance to win, I hope Fangio plans to stay aggressive and not sit back like he's done late in other games.

Don't get reckless and start blitzing, but don't go full prevent either.

Visions of Kirk Cousins, Daniels, Stafford, even Trevor Lawrence making easy game winning drives because we got way too conservative.

If we find ourselves in that situation, then I'd rather live with getting burnt playing to our strength than sitting back and giving them a game winning drive.

The aggressive approach by Jim Schwartz is what allowed us to finish off NE. It has to be something that they plan for playing against Mahomes, because in all likelihood he will have a chance late.

If it makes you feel better, we blitzed a ton vs. LAR and CAR in the final 2 minutes where a stop ends the game, but a TD gives us the ball back. 

 

6 hours ago, pisceschica said:

That’s the thing neither one is going to the HOF. But at least Foles has the ring, memories, and Lombardi/mvp. 

A lot of life is about expectations.  When a career backup and journeyman wins a SB…the first ever SB for a rabid fan base.  It’s an inspirational, successful story.

When a 1st overall pick wins an MVP early in his career, linearly regresses after, becomes a lightning rod, and wraps up his career with a total inability to throw after about age 28…that’s not a career that anyone will remember fondly.  

I’m sure one guy is happy when he looks back on his career and the other has unhealed wounds.  That’s why he’s getting prodded and laughed at by Stephen A. Smith.  You’d never see Foles or Brad Johnson on a sports show talking about regrets.

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

If it makes you feel better, we blitzed a ton vs. LAR and CAR in the final 2 minutes where a stop ends the game, but a TD gives us the ball back. 

Not looking for blitzing, but not prevent either.

Just play to win on both sides of the ball.

Feels like a guaranteed L if they play prevent against Mahommes in a GW drive scenario.