We owe them an ass kicking 

We've played better defenses, and we've played better offenses. We were one competent DC away from winning the last time. Honestly, like the commies, game, this should be an absolute butt Fing. It won't be, the NFL would never allow it.  But we have the superior team, their only advantage is at QB.

I hope someone puts mahomes's head through his arsehole on a scramble. Dude needs to be humbled, bigly. 

4 hours ago, mattwill said:

Respectfully, I think you have swung the meritocracy pendulum way way too far to the right.  The reasons any player does not do well as a member of the Jets are not 100% on the back of the player.

 

Becton also didn’t "suck” at it, as claimed. Quite the opposite, actually.

He was inconsistent due to a series of knee injuries, but he was great as a rookie. Like, better than good. Looked like a star in the making.

Saying he sucked is a total inversion of reality:

Here is an article written at the end of the 2021 season, after his initial knee injury but before he fractured his knee cap in the following training camp:

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It is completely okay for fans to be worried about whether Becton can stay healthy enough to establish himself as a long-term building block for the Jets. But that is a separate issue from his on-field performance. There is no reason to retroactively start acting like he hasn’t performed well on the field just because he isn’t on it right now.

In 2020, Becton set a tremendous foundation for the rest of his career, showing superstar-level potential.

Over the final seven weeks of the 2020 season, Pro Football Focus scored Becton with a 78.3 pass-blocking grade and a 72.4 run-blocking grade. Those marks ranked ninth and 10th, respectively, among qualified left tackles over that span. Some of the matchups he dueled with over that span include Joey Bosa, Maxx Crosby, and Myles Garrett.

Becton was one of only six left tackles to rank top-10 in both categories over that time period. Of that six-man bunch, he was the only rookie.

And this was as an uber-young rookie at 21 years old – not to mention, one that was expected to have a long growth curve since he was coming from an unconventional offense at Louisville.

Don’t like PFF grades? Go watch one of the many film breakdowns we’ve done on Becton here at Jets X-Factor. PFF’s evaluation of Becton aligns with what his tape shows.

Further supporting the legitimacy of Becton’s production is an ESPN survey of 50-plus NFL executives, coaches, scouts, and players released prior to the 2021 season that features Becton as the sixth-ranked offensive tackle in the league.

https://jetsxfactor.com/2021/12/31/jets-fans-mekhi-becton-forget/

23 hours ago, mattwill said:

They don’t have extra picks.  They have seven total picks and 4 of the 7 are at the end of that round.  

In the Goedert-Jackson trade six years ago, the Ravens sent three picks to the Eagles — a 2018 second-rounder (No. 52) and fourth-rounder (No. 125) and a 2019 second-round pick — in exchange for Philadelphia's 2018 first-round pick (No. 32) and fourth-round pick (No. 132).  That resulted in adding Goedert and Miles Sanders.  If the depth of D-Line prospects on the Board at pick 32 is still rich then Howie can still get what he wants this year as well as a bonus player like Sanders with the accumulated pick.

 

23 hours ago, shlo said:

That 3rd rounder from the Dotson trade would be nice to have back. 

 

22 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not as many as you'd think.

• Round 1
• Round 2
• Round 4 (from PIT)
• Round 4 (from DET)
• Round 5
• Round 5 (from WAS)
• Round 5 (from HOU via BUF)

There's no 3rd round pick, and I think Howie very much wants a pick in that area of the draft.   And let's be honest, the difference between a player at pick 32 and pick 45 is generally not that big.   So, moving out of Round 1, turning into a second this year and a future 2, maybe 1... that's huge.   And they will likely look to trade up from Round 4 into Round 3.  

 

But, mostly, you know that Howie likes the draft day(s) dance.  He can't help himself but to wheel and deal.  

I don't think anyone overvalued draft picks on this board than me.  If a trade involved a mid round pick, I'd automatically hate it.

 

Howie changed my position on that.  One thing that he has shown is an ability to rack up future mid to late round picks with draft day trades.  And he often uses them the following year to position mid to high picks to target players.  I wouldn't be shocked to see him use one of the 5ths (and maybe a future pick) to turn a 4th back into a 3rd.

 

To illustrate, I put this chart of his 2024 draft trades together last year for some reason. As you can see, he was able gain both draft picks and draft capital:

If Hurts plays next week like he did last week the Eagles win their 2nd Super Bowl. This game hinges on him passing and running effectively. 

8 hours ago, jamiller said:

Sorry if already posted but I heard an interesting stat on today's Locked on Eagles podcast. 

Mahomes had 2 of his 9 worst EPAs against Fangio.  As an aside, Mahomes has only had 20 negative EPA games out of 131 starts. 

While he went 0-8 against him, Fangio's Offenses did not once score more than 20 points against the Chiefs.

I knew the 0-8 but didn't know the rest.

 

Ah, but did Fangio’s offenses ever score more than 20 against anyone else? My deep research says no.

 

DYNASTY SLAYERS.   LET'S GO.

We look pretty good on the injury front though I'm still concerned about Gainwell who we do need to spell Barkley a couple of times for 2-3 plays during the game.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

The two 7ths ended their respective lives as balancing entries (asset divestitures) for the asset acquisition of (1) Pickett and (2) the 4th Round pick.  Those two picks ceased being Eagles assets when the trade took place so they no longer had continuing future value.

This is straightforward portfolio management.  Any good Business School teaches it.

No Matt this is NFL trades 

Kenny Pickett cost a 3rd/4th pick swap and two 7ths. Any other answer is arguing just to argue. 

7 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

 

 

We owe them an ass kicking 

Can you imagine how much this fan base would grow if the Eagles just hand it to the Chiefs? 

12 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It was about two blocks from my brother in law. Small plane but sounds like it did a ton of damage. Crazy.

Judging by what they’r saying today, it’s a miracle there were only a few injuries on the ground.  
 

I grew up going to NE Philly on a regular basis (that general area) visiting family friends  - it’s one of the most condensed and populated areas of the city - looks like the plane hit on the side of a Dunkin’ Donuts parking lot, on one of the wider streets in the area.
 

A few feet in either direction it would have slammed into row homes or a bunch of stores.  

I'm curious who is rating these threads and why this one has 3 stars. Who hurt you? 😂

1 minute ago, Know Life said:

I'm curious who is rating these threads and why this one has 3 stars. Who hurt you? 😂

Probably all the guys that started the 5 other threads about the Super Bowl.  

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Can you imagine how much this fan base would grow if the Eagles just hand it to the Chiefs? 

That’s not the only thing that’ll grow if we just hand it to the Chiefs, if you know what I’m saying.

52 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

We look pretty good on the injury front though I'm still concerned about Gainwell who we do need to spell Barkley a couple of times for 2-3 plays during the game.

It would be nice to have him back; he has been playing really well this season.  

27 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No Matt this is NFL trades 

Kenny Pickett cost a 3rd/4th pick swap and two 7ths. Any other answer is arguing just to argue. 

You are welcome to your opinion. Paco’s chart below clearly illustrates the alternative opinion.  We all have opinions.  Most of the time none of them are "right”. They are just opinions.  Paco’s chart would be even easier to read if the pending future actions were highlighted in a different color that the green highlighted boxes, which ideally could be highlighted in Kelly Green.  It is a very helpful graphic.

2 hours ago, paco said:

I don't think anyone overvalued draft picks on this board than me.  If a trade involved a mid round pick, I'd automatically hate it.

Howie changed my position on that.  One thing that he has shown is an ability to rack up future mid to late round picks with draft day trades.  And he often uses them the following year to position mid to high picks to target players.  I wouldn't be shocked to see him use one of the 5ths (and maybe a future pick) to turn a 4th back into a 3rd.

To illustrate, I put this chart of his 2024 draft trades together last year for some reason. As you can see, he was able gain both draft picks and draft capital:

 

51 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

We look pretty good on the injury front though I'm still concerned about Gainwell who we do need to spell Barkley a couple of times for 2-3 plays during the game.

Based on what we saw last game, I’m comfortable with Shipley taking those Gainwell snaps.

 

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Based on what we saw last game, I’m comfortable with Shipley taking those Gainwell snaps.

Not me.  All we saw was some running.  I'm more concerned with the pass protection when we really need it.  We also know Gainwell can catch the ball, make a guy miss, and pick up a key 1st down.  We don't know if Shipley can be trusted to do either of those two things in big moments.

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You are welcome to your opinion. Paco’s chart below clearly illustrates the alternative opinion.  We all have opinions.  Most of the time none of them are "right”. They are just opinions.  Paco’s chart would be even easier to read if the pending future actions were highlighted in a different color that the green highlighted boxes, which ideally could be highlighted in Kelly Green.  It is a very helpful graphic.

 

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. A trade happened and it had a cost. Bringing up separate trades that happened months later doesn’t change the fact of the original cost. 

Barkley is something like 30-40 yards from breaking the rushing record in a season including playoff.  That should be no problem for him to reach in SB.  He missed the record for the regular season when he rest iin the last game.  Glad that he has something in the all-time record book.  

 

I keep hearing people say the 49ers were better last year and lost. The Eagles aren't the 49ers. Better OL and a better team. 

If Hurts didn't drop that ball the last one may not have been close. They are pissed off and out for revenge, and I have this weird feeling the Birds are going to shock the hell out of people. 

47 minutes ago, Know Life said:

I'm curious who is rating these threads and why this one has 3 stars. Who hurt you? 😂

I rated it one star - mainly because hazelton eagle posts in it 

Jalen puts in another good performance with over 175 total yards and no turnovers. The O line springs Saquon for few huge runs that prove to be the difference in the game. The defense overall was suffocating, not allowing Mahomes to get into a rhythm until late and completely taking away the big play. Zach Baun wins the SB MVP with 3 sacks, Howie would be wise to pay this man now.

20-14, the better team won - go birds!

 

 

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. A trade happened and it had a cost. Bringing up separate trades that happened months later doesn’t change the fact of the original cost. 

When you are making love to your favorite honey and the lovemaking results in multiple orgasms do you reflect only on the individual orgasms, or on the lovemaking as a continuity?