1 hour ago, SkippyX said:

@VaBeach_Eagle The 2008 Steelers won the SB but before that the Eagles tried to kill Ben Roethlisberger. I think they had 8 sacks but I don't think they tracked hits and pressures back then... there were a lot.

It used to really bug me that McNabb wet the bed vs an AZ team he killed earlier and robbed us of a chance to see them do that again. The 40-8ers game was another example of a SB champ that the Eagles just woodshedded.

 

To see it happen in the actual SB is the top moment in a 50+ year 4 for 4 lifetime of following these teams.

I no longer hold any bad feelings for those Eagles teams that failed in the past...  (I reserve the right to debate the merits of those players of course)

 

For the Eagles and us as fans, all the suffering was a part of getting us to here. It sure feels good to be on the top with 3 SBs in 8 years and 2 wins with that complete destruction last month.

If that Steelers game is the one that I'm thinking of, it's the one where Dawk took flight and stripped Roethlisberger while he was in the pocket. 

That game in SF won me $10 from a Niner's fan at work. That Monday he walked in and just threw the $10 bill at me and walked away lol. I still remember Steve Young pouting after being yanked. 

It's definitely a surreal sort if thing to be sitting here with two Lombardi's now and that Super Bowl performance and thinking about the realistic possibility that this team would win a couple more. 

Amazing this thread now hit 100 pages. I'm surprised it didn't reach that during the game.

9 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Amazing this thread now hit 100 pages. I'm surprised it didn't reach that during the game.

💯

 

 

I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned, or something along the lines of it. But looking at all 59 Super Bowls, there's only been 3 teams to go to at least 3 Super Bowls in a row. 

The Bills 1990-1993 lost all 4
The Patriots 2016-2018 Won LI lost LII won LIII
The Chiefs 2022-2024 Won LVII Won LVIII lost LIX

Of those three teams, only two of them can be considered as realistic challengers for the titles of 'Dynasty' and the vaunted 'Three-peat'. The Patriots and the Chiefs. 

We (the Eagles) are the only reason they didn't win three in a row. 

We (the Eagles) should be known as the Dynasty Killers!

But let's start our own dynasty now!

Still in heaven. Not sure when it will actually sink in. Maybe the draft?

20 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned, or something along the lines of it. But looking at all 59 Super Bowls, there's only been 3 teams to go to at least 3 Super Bowls in a row. 

The Bills 1990-1993 lost all 4
The Patriots 2016-2018 Won LI lost LII won LIII
The Chiefs 2022-2024 Won LVII Won LVIII lost LIX

Of those three teams, only two of them can be considered as realistic challengers for the titles of 'Dynasty' and the vaunted 'Three-peat'. The Patriots and the Chiefs. 

We (the Eagles) are the only reason they didn't win three in a row. 

We (the Eagles) should be known as the Dynasty Killers!

But let's start our own dynasty now!

Let's not forget the 1960 Eagles who prevented Lombardi's Packers from having a three peat.

3 minutes ago, Procus said:

Let's not forget the 1960 Eagles who prevented Lombardi's Packers from having a three peat.

Yeah, I was just looking at the Super Bowl era but had thought of 1960 also. I also looked again and noticed that the Dolphins went to three Super Bowls in a row from 1971-1973, but they lost the first one to Dallass. 

Every time I see "Super Bowl champions again” in the title of this thread I get choked up 

On 3/16/2025 at 4:44 PM, MagicMoment said:

Every time I see "Super Bowl champions again” in the title of this thread I get choked up 

Me too! What an amazing season and win! Hopefully the Iggles can get a couple of more SB wins in my lifetime. 

On 3/16/2025 at 4:44 PM, MagicMoment said:

Every time I see "Super Bowl champions again” in the title of this thread I get choked up 

Was binging some 59 highlights in YouTube last night. I'm ready to get back at this. Call me greedy lol

On 3/14/2025 at 5:17 PM, SkippyX said:

@VaBeach_Eagle 

It used to really bug me that McNabb wet the bed vs an AZ team he killed earlier and robbed us of a chance to see them do that again. The 40-8ers game was another example of a SB champ that the Eagles just woodshedded.

 

Lol your hate for Mcnabb is unreal, did you even watch that game? 😂

2 hours ago, MF POON said:

Lol your hate for Mcnabb is unreal, did you even watch that game? 😂

He is up there with Jim Kelly as the worst big game player in NFL history.

Watch the play where he hits a wide open Baskett in the shoelaces and forces him to the ground. He could have ran for another what? 20, 40, 50 yards? Its the reverse of Foles to Riley Cooper in the Saints game. 

Now find me a play where Hurts or Foles does that in the playoffs.

Watch the rest of the drive after 4th and 26th when he throws the ball to a Packer.

 

The problem with McNabb sniffers is that they can not argue against reality. My opinion has nothing to do with it.

 

Interception - Do Over - Interception is Grade ZZZ terrible. Its the worst 2 play QB sequence in NFL history. He gets a FG there and maybe the game goes to OT. He was a LOSER. 

Now watch the Brusschi INT. That's another top 20 worst throws in SB history. Its a routine wheel or cross route to Levens and he sails it so far over him to Bruschi who just stands there and gets the ball.

You won't actually try to come up with some kind of defense for him because none is possible. You have to make McNabb being an inferior big game QB about me somehow. 

 

2004 and 2008 had NOTHING to do with his weapons. The plays were there to be made (or not made for picks). The rest of the team was good enough to win. He pulled a Jim Kelly both times.

In the RONDE! game Mitchell set them up in the red zone and Duce ran for a TD - 7 points.  He led the Eagles to 3 and the Bucs to 7 the rest of the way.  What's not to love about that?

 

Andy should have 5 SB rings right now. He had a McNabb so he has 3.

1 hour ago, SkippyX said:

He is up there with Jim Kelly as the worst big game player in NFL history.

Watch the play where he hits a wide open Baskett in the shoelaces and forces him to the ground. He could have ran for another what? 20, 40, 50 yards? Its the reverse of Foles to Riley Cooper in the Saints game. 

Now find me a play where Hurts or Foles does that in the playoffs.

Watch the rest of the drive after 4th and 26th when he throws the ball to a Packer.

 

The problem with McNabb sniffers is that they can not argue against reality. My opinion has nothing to do with it.

 

Interception - Do Over - Interception is Grade ZZZ terrible. Its the worst 2 play QB sequence in NFL history. He gets a FG there and maybe the game goes to OT. He was a LOSER. 

Now watch the Brusschi INT. That's another top 20 worst throws in SB history. Its a routine wheel or cross route to Levens and he sails it so far over him to Bruschi who just stands there and gets the ball.

You won't actually try to come up with some kind of defense for him because none is possible. You have to make McNabb being an inferior big game QB about me somehow. 

 

2004 and 2008 had NOTHING to do with his weapons. The plays were there to be made (or not made for picks). The rest of the team was good enough to win. He pulled a Jim Kelly both times.

In the RONDE! game Mitchell set them up in the red zone and Duce ran for a TD - 7 points.  He led the Eagles to 3 and the Bucs to 7 the rest of the way.  What's not to love about that?

 

Andy should have 5 SB rings right now. He had a McNabb so he has 3.

I don't deny that he had a bad game in the SB, but I think the whole team had sort of a letdown. but yeah, he was bad in that game (although that last INT was on LJ).  The Arizona loss is the one where I 100% disagree. The defense was trash in the first half, and then folded in the 4th when they allowed that long TD drive.  I'm not gonna rag on McNabb who overcame a 19 pt halftime deficit, threw for 375 yards, and had 3 TDs w/ 1 Int.   Anyway, it's cool if you're a hater, I just find how much of one you are, amusing.

Lastly, imo Reid is fortunate to have the 3 SB wins he does have. He could (and probably should) be 0-6 in the big game, as none of the wins imo were statement wins, and all of the wins they had to come from behind. He was fortunate that Shanahan choked twice, and that a bad field gave the Chiefs a shot to hang with us.

I think the Reid has Mahomes is a very lazy take. (not pointing at anyone here, its just out there) Mahomes has not been special in SBs. He has 7 picks, 6 fumbles and 16 sacks... not exactly Joe Montana. Most of Mahomes SB TDs are scheme or playcalling. Both of those wide open at the line of scrimmage were Reid vs Gannon. Blaine Gabbert makes those throws.

Its fair to give Mahomes credit for the buying time and arm strength on Wasp, but Tyreek Hill has no defender within 5 yards of him. Everyone makes that routine wide open throw to Watkins after he BBQs Sherman on the double move. The Chiefs most likely lose the 2023 SB without the punt hitting a 49ers leg, but they took advantage.

 

Mahomes is an insane 36 TDs to 3 picks in the playoffs outside the SB. He helps a lot.

The thing about Mahomes though is that he was not the next Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, or John Elway. Veach sold Andy on Mahomes but Andy watched the film and was convinced. Nine teams passed on him. Andy trained this incredibly raw gunslinger psycho from a weird offense in a weird conference into a refined and disciplined NFL QB... who will still go psycho gunslinger when needed. If McVay and Shanahan get credit for coaching people then Andy should get the same credit.

Andy is the guy who had the relationship with Spags. He gets full credit for Spags being there. Is he lucky that Spags is that perfect so-bad-as-NFL-head-coach that he will never leave? Sure, but Andy signed off on Mahomes and signed off on Spags and designs the offense and molds the players that fit.

I think Andy deserves a ton of credit for 2017. He drafted and taught Foles, He rebuilt him in 2016. I can't give you a percentage but Nick Foles is who he is as a QB and a person in part because of Andy.

 

I don't need anyone to love Andy. I don't need anyone to lose their special feelings for an Eagles QB who will always have 9 playoff wins. Playoff wins are awesome! I will always push back on the POOR BABY! garbage about #5 that by design insults everyone from Lurie to the DBs coach as not being good enough to support victim McNabb. You can't say he rose above bad teams without saying that Tra Thomas, John Runyan, Brian Westbrook, Brian Dawkins and on and on were not good enough. They all clearly were. Randall destroys McNabb on any kind of "he had it tough' argument and its not even close. Cunningham is the POOR BABY! Tom Brady and I love Randall but POOR BABY! is for losers who can't deal with the real world. Randall to me is HoF (Better than Edge and Namath but not on the level of the true greats) McNabb's overall body of work is obviously HoVG. I'd take McNabb over 4 SB Jim Kelly every time.

Peyton Manning was also a bad playoff QB (but clearly a HoF player) Manning had 12 TDs to 1 pick in 3 playoff games in 2003-04 vs Denver in his dome and vs The Red Carpet Defense in KC. He had 28 TDs and 24 picks in his other 24 playoff games. He has thrown 5 SB TD passes in 4 games... 3 to his team and 2 to the other team. I don't have to have feelings about Manning to see his results. You can watch Tracy Porter and Malcolm Smith any time you want. Manning does not have 4 or 6 SBs because he is Peyton Manning, not because his teams were not good enough. His brother was a much better QB in his 2 SB runs than Peyton was on his.

 

McNabb's 3rd SB interception was only in-play because he had the 2 earlier interceptions. The defense was killing Brady to start that SB. He got nothing on a couple drives. He finally moved the ball on the 3rd drive but they forced him to fumble. If McNabb played a ball control game and gets a FG or TD instead of double pick and maybe a FG instead of the Bruschi fumble, then its probably Brady trying to come back at the end on that defense. Does he do it? We will never know.

Yes, the LJ fumble was also a killer but LJ is not the QB and LJ did not get a do-over and LJ did not fumble again. (I also think LJ sucks)

Andy was also awful on that clock killer drive to finally make the game 24-21 but way too late. (I don't care if anyone puked. They were way too slow and methodical) Andy did something similar with Alex Smith KC vs New England in Foxborough.

Its also fair to say that Andy's 2 playoff wins this year are big time cheating *  It was the refs cheating and not him, but his team was not good enough in any of the 3 playoff games to win without a huge boost from the refs. He still has 26 playoff wins without those 2 controversial games.

 

8 hours ago, MF POON said:

Lol your hate for Mcnabb is unreal, did you even watch that game? 😂

I had to take my mother for eye surgery this morning and in the waiting room, I was on my tablet reading some threads. I wasn't logged in, just viewing as a guest.

When I saw your post and my name tagged in it, it really confused me because I didn't remember saying that McNabb had wet the bed lol. 

14 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I had to take my mother for eye surgery this morning and in the waiting room, I was on my tablet reading some threads. I wasn't logged in, just viewing as a guest.

When I saw your post and my name tagged in it, it really confused me because I didn't remember saying that McNabb had wet the bed lol. 

Haha yeah, it was the post I quoted. Hope surgery went well!

18 hours ago, SkippyX said:

I think the Reid has Mahomes is a very lazy take. (not pointing at anyone here, its just out there) Mahomes has not been special in SBs. He has 7 picks, 6 fumbles and 16 sacks... not exactly Joe Montana. Most of Mahomes SB TDs are scheme or playcalling. Both of those wide open at the line of scrimmage were Reid vs Gannon. Blaine Gabbert makes those throws.

Its fair to give Mahomes credit for the buying time and arm strength on Wasp, but Tyreek Hill has no defender within 5 yards of him. Everyone makes that routine wide open throw to Watkins after he BBQs Sherman on the double move. The Chiefs most likely lose the 2023 SB without the punt hitting a 49ers leg, but they took advantage.

 

Mahomes is an insane 36 TDs to 3 picks in the playoffs outside the SB. He helps a lot.

The thing about Mahomes though is that he was not the next Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, or John Elway. Veach sold Andy on Mahomes but Andy watched the film and was convinced. Nine teams passed on him. Andy trained this incredibly raw gunslinger psycho from a weird offense in a weird conference into a refined and disciplined NFL QB... who will still go psycho gunslinger when needed. If McVay and Shanahan get credit for coaching people then Andy should get the same credit.

Andy is the guy who had the relationship with Spags. He gets full credit for Spags being there. Is he lucky that Spags is that perfect so-bad-as-NFL-head-coach that he will never leave? Sure, but Andy signed off on Mahomes and signed off on Spags and designs the offense and molds the players that fit.

I think Andy deserves a ton of credit for 2017. He drafted and taught Foles, He rebuilt him in 2016. I can't give you a percentage but Nick Foles is who he is as a QB and a person in part because of Andy.

 

I don't need anyone to love Andy. I don't need anyone to lose their special feelings for an Eagles QB who will always have 9 playoff wins. Playoff wins are awesome! I will always push back on the POOR BABY! garbage about #5 that by design insults everyone from Lurie to the DBs coach as not being good enough to support victim McNabb. You can't say he rose above bad teams without saying that Tra Thomas, John Runyan, Brian Westbrook, Brian Dawkins and on and on were not good enough. They all clearly were. Randall destroys McNabb on any kind of "he had it tough' argument and its not even close. Cunningham is the POOR BABY! Tom Brady and I love Randall but POOR BABY! is for losers who can't deal with the real world. Randall to me is HoF (Better than Edge and Namath but not on the level of the true greats) McNabb's overall body of work is obviously HoVG. I'd take McNabb over 4 SB Jim Kelly every time.

Peyton Manning was also a bad playoff QB (but clearly a HoF player) Manning had 12 TDs to 1 pick in 3 playoff games in 2003-04 vs Denver in his dome and vs The Red Carpet Defense in KC. He had 28 TDs and 24 picks in his other 24 playoff games. He has thrown 5 SB TD passes in 4 games... 3 to his team and 2 to the other team. I don't have to have feelings about Manning to see his results. You can watch Tracy Porter and Malcolm Smith any time you want. Manning does not have 4 or 6 SBs because he is Peyton Manning, not because his teams were not good enough. His brother was a much better QB in his 2 SB runs than Peyton was on his.

 

McNabb's 3rd SB interception was only in-play because he had the 2 earlier interceptions. The defense was killing Brady to start that SB. He got nothing on a couple drives. He finally moved the ball on the 3rd drive but they forced him to fumble. If McNabb played a ball control game and gets a FG or TD instead of double pick and maybe a FG instead of the Bruschi fumble, then its probably Brady trying to come back at the end on that defense. Does he do it? We will never know.

Yes, the LJ fumble was also a killer but LJ is not the QB and LJ did not get a do-over and LJ did not fumble again. (I also think LJ sucks)

Andy was also awful on that clock killer drive to finally make the game 24-21 but way too late. (I don't care if anyone puked. They were way too slow and methodical) Andy did something similar with Alex Smith KC vs New England in Foxborough.

Its also fair to say that Andy's 2 playoff wins this year are big time cheating *  It was the refs cheating and not him, but his team was not good enough in any of the 3 playoff games to win without a huge boost from the refs. He still has 26 playoff wins without those 2 controversial games.

 

I don't think Reid won solely because of Mahomes, but I do think he's disguised some of Reid's flaws. He may not have had perfect or great performances in the SB wins, but he's gotten a number of big calls and made big plays when needed. I also think about all the games he's won with Mahomes in the playoffs in general, that he probably would've lost without him. As you pointed out, Mahomes has been pretty great in the playoffs, but he sort of regresses in the SB.

No one's ever claimed that Reid isn't good with QB's. I think Mahomes and Reid have benefitted from each other. 

I don't get why you're talking about which Eagles QB had it worse.

 

 

Philly had 2 playoff wins in 18 years before Reid. He had 10 in 14 years.

KC had 3 playoff wins in 43 years before Reid. He has 18 in 12 years.

9 hours ago, MF POON said:

I don't think Reid won solely because of Mahomes, but I do think he's disguised some of Reid's flaws.

[I think Reid has benefitted from Mahomes.] FIXED. 

 

 

You're right that Mahomes hides Reid's flaws. Donovan McNabb and Alex Smith couldn't. Andy Reid was a choker in Playoffs until he got Mahomes.

On 3/20/2025 at 11:07 AM, SkippyX said:

I think Andy deserves a ton of credit for 2017. He drafted and taught Foles, He rebuilt him in 2016. I can't give you a percentage but Nick Foles is who he is as a QB and a person in part because of Andy.

 

A ton? I'm sorry, but that's too much credit. I can credit Andy for turning Foles into the person he is and getting Foles out of retirement and Doug Pederson working under Andy and Keeping Titans (allegedly) from trading #2 pick (Mariota) to Eagles.

Supposed, Doug was the one who wanted Foles. Doug also used Chip Kelly's playbook to get the most out of Foles. Chip inadvertently made Foles good. Chip taking Howie's job made Howie into a better GM. Doug learned what not to do working under Andy. 

It's been two months and I still have a dumb grin on my face...anyone else?

15 hours ago, opa-opa said:

It's been two months and I still have a dumb grin on my face...anyone else?

I still can't stop watching SB videos. I think I've watched the Cooper pick 6 like 14, 673 times.

1 hour ago, LacesOut said:

I still can't stop watching SB videos. I think I've watched the Cooper pick 6 like 14, 673 times.

Literally jus put the whole game replay on my dvr lol

22 hours ago, opa-opa said:

It's been two months and I still have a dumb grin on my face...anyone else?

 

On 3/22/2025 at 9:38 PM, opa-opa said:

It's been two months and I still have a dumb grin on my face...anyone else?

I watch post-game shows every day and various other related videos on YouTube every night.

I'm in the process of authoring the (post-season) games so that they contain not only the TV audio, but also Merrill and Mike and the opposing team's radio (and for the Super Bowl, Westwood One as a fourth audio). If I could find the radio broadcasts for the regular season, I'd do that with those games too, but I didn't have the time to record them each week during the season and the NFL no longer archives them for us to access. Which sucks. 

My Super Bowl KC radio broadcast recording got screwed up and the first half didn't record. I caught the problem during halftime and fixed it. But a few days ago, I found a YouTube copy of their broadcast so I downloaded it and now I have the whole broadcast. 

Maybe I'll do a compilation video from the post season of the big plays with the various audios, like the 'around the world' videos (though I only have the broadcasts that I mentioned) and upload it to our YouTube channel. The NFL will claim it, of course. But maybe it'll bring subscribers and views that could lead to monetizing the channel down the road.