19 minutes ago, TEW said:

William is gone. For almost the same price you can keep Baun and Becton, plus this is a historically deep DT class.

The offseason plan is pretty simple in my view — bring back Baun and Becton, draft 2 defensive lineman early. That’s the core of what we have to do.

Other than that, get our own players locked up and fill out the roster depth.

That's fine. But the defense is taking a big hit losing Sweat, Williams, Slay and Graham as most project here. It's not a minor one at all. Everyone is hoping that a bunch of rookies step up in year 1 and less proven guys to fill the holes and keep this top ranked defense going, while we are chasing Superbowls here.

12 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I didn't really study this that hard. But that sounds like a good list. Of course it depends on what happens in March. 

I just made a bulleted list from the positions you stated in your post.

I don't think this year they need TE (Goedert and Calcaterra free agents after 2025), but it's a good year to draft one to develop. They don't need a WR (they barely throw to anyone but Brown and Smith and Goedert). RB if they re-sign Gainwell on a team-friendly deal they will keep the same RB room. Otherwise if he walks, Shipley is #2 and they can get a #3 RB as an UDFA or late round pick.

IMO their top needs are DE, and DT depth. The rest is gravy and depends on free agency. O line depth, a #3 RB if Gainwell walks, LB and DB for depth. 

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

I just made a bulleted list from the positions you stated in your post.

I don't think this year they need TE (Goedert and Calcaterra free agents after 2025), but it's a good year to draft one to develop. They don't need a WR (they barely throw to anyone but Brown and Smith and Goedert). RB if they re-sign Gainwell on a team-friendly deal they will keep the same RB room. Otherwise if he walks, Shipley is #2 and they can get a #3 RB as an UDFA or late round pick.

IMO their top needs are DE, and DT depth. The rest is gravy and depends on free agency. O line depth, a #3 RB if Gainwell walks, LB and DB for depth. 

I think starting LB becomes the biggest need if Baun signs elsewhere.  No Baun and no Dean eso no es bueno

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

That's awesome. Where did you get it?

Next mission is to get it signed somehow

If I'm doing my math right Jalen Carter's $35M projected hit on the cap is likely 3 years away from striking at that price. Who cares? The cap will be up $75M by then. Can pay most of your top young guys here the way it staggers out from what I'm looking at. 

5 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

That's fine. But the defense is taking a big hit losing Sweat, Williams, Slay and Graham as most project here. It's not a minor one at all. Everyone is hoping that a bunch of rookies step up in year 1 and keep this top  ranked defense going, while we are chasing Superbowls here.

• Graham announced last offseason that he was going to retire so that's already been known. We love BG but he got injured and the defense didn't miss a beat. He played limited snaps in the SB, which was awesome that he was able to even play.
• Most people assumed Slay would be gone, and thought we were so blessed at corner they wanted to trade Rodgers or Ricks (I disagreed with that). But fans have been planning for Slay to be gone, so you know Howie has also.
• People were down on Sweat for the last year and a half, wanting him traded last year instead of Reddick. He played better toward the end of the season and came up big in the Super Bowl. 
• Williams has been on the rise each year and wants to get a big payday, he's gone.

This is why they drafted Nolan Smith, Jalyx Hunt, Ojomo...and they will continue to add in free agency and draft. They know they can't keep everyone especially after winning a SB, some guys cash in for their payday with another team.

As for rookies, we saw 2nd year players Carter and Nolan Smith become dominant players, and backups Ojomo, Ringo and Brown contribute. Rookies Q and DeJean were amazing and will only be better. Hunt stepped up in the playoffs and Super Bowl and Trotter can expand his snaps.

I'm not saying it's an even wash, and there is no dropoff. But you also consider it will be the 2nd year in Fangio's system, younger players with another year of experience, rookies with a full offseason.

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think starting LB becomes the biggest need if Baun signs elsewhere.  No Baun and no Dean eso no es bueno

Absolutely. In my mind that's a given and I didn't even mention it. I can't see them not re-signing Baun. But yeah LB becomes a huge hole if he leaves.

8 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

That's fine. But the defense is taking a big hit losing Sweat, Williams, Slay and Graham as most project here. It's not a minor one at all.

Yes the team will lose talent in players and coaches. Have to hope guys step up and Howie hits on lower cost new additions. It’s a challenge 

18 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

That's fine. But the defense is taking a big hit losing Sweat, Williams, Slay and Graham as most project here. It's not a minor one at all. Everyone is hoping that a bunch of rookies step up in year 1 and keep this top  ranked defense going, while we are chasing Superbowls here.

I think there is a decent chance both Slay and Graham could be back for a year.

But regardless, this is the year to need defensive linemen. We have to bite the bullet somewhere and defensive linemen are expensive, so getting a couple guys on rookie deals for 4 years makes a lot of sense.

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

• Graham announced last offseason that he was going to retire so that's already been known. We love BG but he got injured and the defense didn't miss a beat. He played limited snaps in the SB, which was awesome that he was able to even play.
• Most people assumed Slay would be gone, and thought we were so blessed at corner they wanted to trade Rodgers or Ricks (I disagreed with that). But fans have been planning for Slay to be gone, so you know Howie has also.
• People were down on Sweat for the last year and a half, wanting him traded last year instead of Reddick. He played better toward the end of the season and came up big in the Super Bowl. 
• Williams has been on the rise each year and wants to get a big payday, he's gone.

This is why they drafted Nolan Smith, Jalyx Hunt, Ojomo...and they will continue to add in free agency and draft. They know they can't keep everyone especially after winning a SB, some guys cash in for their payday with another team.

As for rookies, we saw 2nd year players Carter and Nolan Smith become dominant players, and backups Ojomo, Ringo and Brown contribute. Rookies Q and DeJean were amazing and will only be better. Hunt stepped up in the playoffs and Super Bowl and Trotter can expand his snaps.

I'm not saying it's an even wash, and there is no dropoff. But you also consider it will be the 2nd year in Fangio's system, younger players with another year of experience, rookies with a full offseason.

I believe in our young talent. And the team had depth. Thats what made this team. Gonna take a nice hit here. It now puts the pressure on Howie duplicating a hall of fame effort the last 4 years. Will see. 

1 hour ago, hputenis said:

Is it reasonable to just accept that Jordan Davis will never be able to increase his snap count?  I wish he'd just spend an offseason with Lane Johnson and do something to shock his cardio.  He at least proved this season he is a monster whenever he is in, and he continued that through the SB.  

It is reasonable to believe Jordan Davis will never be able to increase his snap count; however, I do not subscribe to that belief.  

For me, his career to date has been dominated by physical domination of the players across the LOS.  Hurtt is asking him to do more than that and providing the coaching to accomplish that "more”. We have already seen progress. I believe we will see more.

JMO

Disclaimer: This my opinion and only my opinion.  Do not pass GO.  Do not collect $200.

12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think starting LB becomes the biggest need if Baun signs elsewhere.  No Baun and no Dean eso no es bueno

Has Oren Burks raised his value above the vet minimum? That’s one spot covered.

1 hour ago, jojodancer said:

Eagles have several needs in this draft.

DE/Edge (2 of them would be good), LB, TE.

And could use depth at RB, WR, offensive line and another defensive back or 2 to add to the mix.

Then people want to liberally use a high pick on a defensive tackle, just because it's DT heavy and favorable. If you can sign Williams for 3/63 or 4/84 you do it.  I'm not sure that's the final price, but he's a top prize in this market.

Then we focus on other needs after that. This may also put Howie in a place of leverage in the draft and being able to trade down for extra picks and hold another masterclass.

You can sign Walter Nolen or Darius Alexander for 4/12

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Is that going to apply to next year too?

Yes it is.

22 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You can sign Walter Nolen or Darius Alexander for 4/15 

I understand all of that. It's opportunity cost of not getting an edge that you definitely need going forward. Maybe 2 needed. We don't have unlimited picks here. Do we? At some point you have to pay people. I think people want to just kick the can down the road and think that we are gonna hit on picks every time. We are drafting 30's every year here for awhile so it will be challenging. We are in a Superbowl window here. I think I have more urgency here than most to keep the continuity here when possible. People are letting the massive Jalen Carter contract scare them into making crazy decisions.  Remember when we signed Hurts and everyone said we are doomed and won't be able to sign anyone etc. We are good!

6 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think there is a decent chance both Slay and Graham could be back for a year.

But regardless, this is the year to need defensive linemen. We have to bite the bullet somewhere and defensive linemen are expensive, so getting a couple guys on rookie deals for 4 years makes a lot of sense.

It’s going to cost some cash to keep Slay around and $4M in cap (right?), but if we let him loose we still need somebody to replace him (Rodgers) and how much will that cost? Perhaps we keep him, and have Ringo/Ricks/draft pick compete for CB3 and heir apparent. Then there’s Coop as well, but I’m happy with where he is (maybe sliding into S later for $ reasons down the road).

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You can sign Walter Nolen or Darius Alexander for 4/12

I don’t think Walt will be there, but DA seems like a guy who might be able to help out in the rotation sooner than later.

32 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Remember, use our Fanatics link for any purchases through them, this is where we are so far:

Just received part of my order.  Love the design of the shirt but could fanatics find a cheaper material?  Feels really rough like sandpaper.  Maybe after a couple of washes it will be softer

1 hour ago, TEW said:

That’s going to be pretty difficult.

I’d say the best opportunity for that is going to be from a Baun type signing. Obviously expecting an all-pro to get conjured from a STer is unlikely, but a cheap way to add a quality starter could likely come from a player who was miscast on another team. There will be opportunities at CB, LB, and DL. Possibly RB and TE as well.

Improvement is also likely from young player development, as we witnessed with Nolan Smith. Do Mitchell, DeJean and Hunt all take another step? The rookies were great, but getting more turnovers from the corners would be an improvement, and obviously Hunt seems to have a lot of potential which he will need to fulfill.

Could Ringo put it all together? There is a world where he’s a really good player and suddenly our secondary is scary for the next 8 years. Or how about Trotter stepping up? Maybe Shipley or Wilson take a big step and become dependable role players? Heck, maybe Huff can contribute?

We aren’t going to be able to bring in a bunch of stars, so I’m hoping more for players already on the roster to improve than new additions to make the kind of impact that Barkley, Baun and Becton did. Hmmm, maybe look for guys who have a last name that starts with a "B” if we want a star…

If we were to add a star, what position would that star play?  

23 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

That's awesome. Where did you get it?

Next mission is to get it signed somehow

 

 

 

The 5th year option on Jordan Davis will be somewhere between 22 and 24 million.

That number is a solid rock on your cap and can't be stretched over void years.

I would not pick up his 5th year option.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

Yeah I think at this point, he is what he is. He could get the Barnett treatment and his 2nd contract will be like a part-time rotational player. It worked with Williams taking more snaps, so either Ojomo needs to take on a lot more or they need another draft pick. It's funny to think they might need to draft two D linemen high.

The second DT will come from Day 3.  Jamaree Caldwell from Oregon is a very interesting Day 3 prospect.

We are losing Williams and Sweat.  That is two players.  It makes mathematical sense that they need to draft two D linemen.

My thesis simply is you can afford to lose Sweat, Slay and Graham and pretty much maintain status quo with great depth and talent  with upcoming draft. And still hold a major edge with rest of the NFL. Anything else lost from the defense is a step down.  And we are going to be doing alot of projections and hopes of what MAY happen. That depth and talent is what won us this ring. Can't forget. I am not counting on the offense carrying the load. Although they might. Whatever Howie has to do to make that happen for 2025 is all I care about.

Not much talk about this guy as a potential TE target for us

 

15 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

The 5th year option on Jordan Davis will be somewhere between 22 and 24 million.

That number is a solid rock on your cap and can't be stretched over void years.

I would not pick up his 5th year option.

I heard ~$12M but that’s still a lot, as I’d rather roll that money into an extension to lower the AAV and push the cost to the outyears.

The fifth-year salary is calculated based on four tiers: Basic, playing time, one Pro Bowl and multiple Pro Bowls.