8 minutes ago, TEW said:

If you have a top 5 OL in NFL history — which we do — you couldn’t have a better allocation of resources.

Any team ever could try to but they don’t. It’s not good roster building. If it’s top 5 in NFL history than subbing Steen for Becton shouldn’t cause a massive drop off. 

Just now, TEW said:

It’s the first article that came up. Anyone who actually watched him play would tell you the same thing — looked like a star in the making, then messed up his knee.

I watched him play with the Jets, didn't look like a "star" in the making. Looked serviceable when healthy

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

We'd be extremely foolish to give Saquon similar usage going forward.  He needs to be load managed as he approaches 30.

It's very unlikely we are as run-heavy going forward.  This past season was probably an outlier.

I’m of two minds on this…

We are only on the hook for 2 more seasons and have an out after this season.

Do you ride that magic carpet to try to repeat?

In any case, Gainwell is a free agent and this is a historically great RB class. Grab a guy early, keep the OL together, and we can run just as much while taking some of the touches away from Barkley.

8 minutes ago, Godfather said:

He had a great season this year. Start of his career didn't look so good. Hopefully he's able to recover

Been very injury prone to date unfortunately 

You sign Baun and let the rest of the big ticket FAs walk.  Milton is beast but he's going to get paid by one.  Ojomo has flashed every chance he has gotten and Davis got some huge sacks in the playoffs.  Booker is no slouch and this is the deepest DT draft we have seen.  You gotta let Milton walk.  Only other bigger ticket FA to potentially retain is Rodgers depending on what they do with Slay.  Even then I don't want to commit to a contract to Rodgers that locks him in as a starter long term.  Moreso a 2-3 year deal that keeps him around but doesn't pay him so much that he gets that Roseman starting job out of default even if Ringo steps up and is clearly better.  

You then take that late 1st and whatever other assets you gotta give up as long as it isn't too crazy and you go get Myles Garrett.  Garrett and Carter playing together on the same line is going to take the #1 defense to an even higher level that the loss of Slay won't matter as much.  Knowing Watson is out next year with his injuries plus how he is just ass maybe the Browns will have interest in a cheap starting option in Pickett or McKee.  Just make it happen because it Garrett would be great for us and if we don't then the Redskins probably will.  Plus trading for Garrett won't impact our compensation draft picks that are going to be setup to get with all the guys we are going to lose.  

But Baun is top of the list, can't let him see FA.  You have a play making clutch LB who is also a great locker room guy.  Don't let him leave.  He can't be replaced like the other guys they will let walk can be replaced. 

3 minutes ago, TEW said:

I’m of two minds on this…

We are only on the hook for 2 more seasons and have an out after this season.

Do you ride that magic carpet to try to repeat?

In any case, Gainwell is a free agent and this is a historically great RB class. Grab a guy early, keep the OL together, and we can run just as much while taking some of the touches away from Barkley.

RB early when we need DE help? Graham, Sweat gone. Who knows with Huff. Could possibly double dip. DT is also another position the Eagles will invest it as is TE. No position to draft a RB early

8 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I agree. I've been pretty critical of his but had nothing but positive thoughts about him this past season

I'm right there with you.  Hopefully he can recover and still play at a high level. 

16 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said:

#1) This offensive line was a million times better than that offensive line, and it's not close at all. 

 

#2) I hate the argument of "we can likely draft a guard in the ______ round".   Who is this mystery player we can take and easily assume they're going to pick up where we know for fact Becton can?  Draft classes aren't linear.   

The entire goal of our offensive philosophy is to have elite play at the line of scrimmage, and we know with certainty that Becton can be a key part of that. 

And for the record, I want both Baun and Becton back.  Williams is the most expensive and easiest position to replace, 

 

1) That wasn't the argument I was making, at all. The point was that the Eagles were able to win a Superbowl with a statute behind a line that had two 3rd, a 5th and a 6th rounder on it. 

2) Obviously the draft is a crapshoot. I'm more confident in being able to draft a starting caliber guard than a LB. Again, the Eagles have historically had bad LB play in comparison to OL.

I would like them both, as well, but if I had to choose I would pick Baun.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Any team ever could try to but they don’t. It’s not good roster building. If it’s top 5 in NFL history than subbing Steen for Becton shouldn’t cause a massive drop off. 

They can try, but they CAN’T.

Massive difference.

We can. We actually did it.

And we should keep it.

Yes, losing arguably your best run blocker and replacing him with an average to above average player will make a big difference. Becton is a unique talent. He's young. Those are the guys you pay.

 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Any team ever could try to but they don’t. It’s not good roster building. If it’s top 5 in NFL history than subbing Steen for Becton shouldn’t cause a massive drop off. 

 

Plus if they let Becton walk it's not like Steen is the default guy for RG.  They will almost definitely draft a guy who can play tackle or guard in the draft who could be better than Steen.  Could take on another reclamation project like Becton as well.  Only reason I think Becton could be back is I think there is a real chance he takes a significant team discount to stay here that the Eagles wouldn't be able to pass up.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Been very injury prone to date unfortunately 

He has. Unfortunate injury this past season

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

You sign Baun and let the rest of the big ticket FAs walk.  Milton is beast but he's going to get paid by one.  Ojomo has flashed every chance he has gotten and Davis got some huge sacks in the playoffs.  Booker is no slouch and this is the deepest DT draft we have seen.  You gotta let Milton walk.  Only other bigger ticket FA to potentially retain is Rodgers depending on what they do with Slay.  Even then I don't want to commit to a contract to Rodgers that locks him in as a starter long term.  Moreso a 2-3 year deal that keeps him around but doesn't pay him so much that he gets that Roseman starting job out of default even if Ringo steps up and is clearly better.  

You then take that late 1st and whatever other assets you gotta give up as long as it isn't too crazy and you go get Myles Garrett.  Garrett and Carter playing together on the same line is going to take the #1 defense to an even higher level that the loss of Slay won't matter as much.  Knowing Watson is out next year with his injuries plus how he is just ass maybe the Browns will have interest in a cheap starting option in Pickett or McKee.  Just make it happen because it Garrett would be great for us and if we don't then the Redskins probably will.  Plus trading for Garrett won't impact our compensation draft picks that are going to be setup to get with all the guys we are going to lose.  

But Baun is top of the list, can't let him see FA.  You have a play making clutch LB who is also a great locker room guy.  Don't let him leave.  He can't be replaced like the other guys they will let walk can be replaced. 

Absolutely no to letting everyone walk so we can trade a bunch of more picks and good players for one guy.

Depth matters. Across the board talent matters.

You don’t give up Williams, Sweat, Becton, a first round pick, and whatever else just to get an older Garrett.

Terrible idea.

 

 

Repeat incoming. These guys are locked in while other teams lose and go to Cancun

 

2 minutes ago, TEW said:

Absolutely no to letting everyone walk so we can trade a bunch of more picks and good players for one guy.

Depth matters. Across the board talent matters.

You don’t give up Williams, Sweat, Becton, a first round pick, and whatever else just to get an older Garrett.

Terrible idea.

I'm curious, where do you get all the money to sign Williams and Sweat? 

11 minutes ago, TEW said:

I’m of two minds on this…

We are only on the hook for 2 more seasons and have an out after this season.

Do you ride that magic carpet to try to repeat?

In any case, Gainwell is a free agent and this is a historically great RB class. Grab a guy early, keep the OL together, and we can run just as much while taking some of the touches away from Barkley.

If we repeat, it's very unlikely the exact same formula as this past season.  Teams are going to play us differently.

One of the things that allowed us to go so run-heavy was the confidence that our defense would dominate opposing offenses.  When other teams can't score you go conservative on offense because only big play variance (turnovers) can beat you.

There are plenty of reasons to expect us to pass more and run less next year, even if we keep Becton.

1 hour ago, jojodancer said:

I know who the better lineman is. It's a matter of Baun or Becton here? Because of cap space. Baun loss is more damaging to overall defense than a Becton loss to the overall offense.

I’m not sure that you know anything all I see you spill is out of context hyperbole to try and support your opinion. 
 

Howie is gonna Howie and sign or not sign whoever he wants and he could care less about your concerns over the capspace limiting him.

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Plus if they let Becton walk it's not like Steen is the default guy for RG.  They will almost definitely draft a guy who can play tackle or guard in the draft who could be better than Steen.  Could take on another reclamation project like Becton as well.  Only reason I think Becton could be back is I think there is a real chance he takes a significant team discount to stay here that the Eagles wouldn't be able to pass up.

You aren’t getting Becton again.

He’s a 6’7” 360 pound mauler with left tackle feet. There are like 3 or 4 guys in the entire NFL with his talent.

No way we should contemplate letting that guy walk because you think you can draft a guy or find a cast off.

If the doctors have concerns about his knee, then that’s something to consider. But on talent, the ability to replace a player, and how they impact the team, Becton should be our highest priority.

22 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

Dean?

Calling Dean and Kendricks studs is a bit of a stretch.  Dean improved a lot in the off season and over the course of the season…but he still had issues in pass coverage and moving 270 to 90.  Him cleaning up tackling issues and his brain did wonders though for run defense.

Does anyone know why the SB jerseys are on preorder until April or May? You'd think they'd be able to pump them out quicker than that. 

11 minutes ago, TEW said:

They can try, but they CAN’T.

Massive difference.

We can. We actually did it.

And we should keep it.

Yes, losing arguably your best run blocker and replacing him with an average to above average player will make a big difference. Becton is a unique talent. He's young. Those are the guys you pay.

 

We never "did it”. Becton signed for less than $3M. That’s not top of the market. If he wants to sign that deal again or with a pay bump, sure. I’m talking about him making $14M plus. 

3 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I'm curious, where do you get all the money to sign Williams and Sweat? 

You don’t. Can’t keep them all. Which is exactly why you don’t then turn around and trade more cost controlled assets for one player who will make $30M+.

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

Calling Dean and Kendricks studs is a bit of a stretch.  Dean improved a lot in the off season and over the course of the season…but he still had issues in pass coverage and moving 270 to 90.  Him cleaning up tackling issues and his brain did wonders though for run defense.

Where did I say he was a stud? He said worth a Damn  Dean is certainly worth a Damn.

10 minutes ago, TEW said:

Absolutely no to letting everyone walk so we can trade a bunch of more picks and good players for one guy.

Depth matters. Across the board talent matters.

You don’t give up Williams, Sweat, Becton, a first round pick, and whatever else just to get an older Garrett.

Terrible idea.

 

We aren't letting everyone walk to trade for Garrett.  We are letting everyone but Baun walk because it's the smart move to make.  We have replacements on the roster for Milton, Sweat and Becton.  Pick up the compensation picks and allocate that money else where: Jurgens, Blankenship and the eventual only a year out Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith extensions.  Plus if they are smart they will find away to re-work Goedert's deal into maybe a 3 year deal but while that might create cap space for this year it will cost money down the road.