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7 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Take your pick:

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13 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Can you name the NINE starting QBs to lose multiple Super Bowls?  

I'll start with Tom Brady.

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17 minutes ago, just relax said:

I'll start with Tom Brady.

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6 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

This McNeil/Williams story is getting confused. The Eagles (and Howie) did not "vouch for" Williams over McNeil. They WANTED McNeil. But before picking him, Howie accepted a deal to move down a couple of spots for an extra sixth(?). He thought he could still get McNeil after moving down. But the Lions picked him instead, leaving the Eagles having to search for an alternate choice. They picked Williams. It worked out okay in the long run, although I still think McNeil is the better player.

And the sixth ended up being Tarron Jackson, who never panned out. 

I thought the Eagles were between two players at their pick when Carolina called to move up. When Carolina said it was for offense the Eagles agreed to trade down banking on either McNeill or Williams being there. It was a bit of a risk since there were still two picks before they selected. The Giants then took Aaron Robinson, ensuring one would be there. However, Donohoe was mad because he wanted the Eagles to stay at their pick and take McNeill since he was the higher player. It was Gannon who wanted Williams over McNeill, which is why they were OK with moving down. 

Baun, Burks, and VanSumeren are all FA (or RFA)

Theres no way we can go into next camp with a one legged Dean and Trotter Jr.

I don't know what Burks will be looking for, but I'd say Baun is #1 as there is no identified replacement for him at all. 

At least with Becton we have Steen

23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I thought the Eagles were between two players at their pick when Carolina called to move up. When Carolina said it was for offense the Eagles agreed to trade down banking on either McNeill or Williams being there. It was a bit of a risk since there were still two picks before they selected. The Giants then took Aaron Robinson, ensuring one would be there. However, Donohoe was mad because he wanted the Eagles to stay at their pick and take McNeill since he was the higher player. It was Gannon who wanted Williams over McNeill, which is why they were OK with moving down. 

Milton IS good, but Gannon being wrong again is chef's kiss. 

4 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Do you all know that the Eagles have been to the Super Bowl three times in the past 7 seasons and won two of them?

The Eagles have won two out of three Super Bowls in the past 7 seasons!

 I don't know if my 17 (almost 18) year old self, in January 1987,  who was about to graduate High School and had to sit and watch yet another Redskins Super Bowl victory (over Denver), would believe it. But it's true. We own two Lombardi trophies... and yes, I say 'we'. We've suffered long and hard, those of us who've been around long enough. Which is likely most of us on this board.

How awesome would it be to go back to back? Back to back isn't easy to do, but it's not impossible, either. 

It's a great time to bleed green! 

:LII-LIX:

 

1970 was a very good year.  I became a father for the first time that year, and as a result my 17 year old son and I had the same 1987 experience as you did.  Fittingly, last season he and I went to a Commies game together and enjoyed the game and the win.  So much easier and more fun than dealing with the losses.  We are indeed in good times … and thankful for it.

1 hour ago, wussbasket said:

I think it probably helps him more than anything since he can play on or off the ball. Baun's play is more about his instincts and that translates quite well. He played at a high level for the majority of the season and the plays he was making weren't the athletic kind, but him diagnosing and seeing what was going to happen. When Dean went down, Baun had to pickup the play calling duties, and it didn't even look like they missed a beat. The dude is smart and really understands the game and I think that shows he can be great long term.

Take a look at Baun's int in LIX, he hardly moves but just knows where the ball is going and sits in the throwing window and picks it off.

In one of the postseason interviews with Baun, he talked about how differently Fangio uses his linebackers when compared to what he had experienced in New Orleans.  He used different words, but he described the New Orleans way as putting the LB players in straight jackets, with highly prescribed responsibilities and very little authority. Fangio’s system gives and expects the opposite.  The players are given both the authority to make their own judgments and the responsibility to make those judgments wisely.  By coming to Philadelphia the straight jackets were taken off and as a result the instincts have flourished. 

20 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Baun, Burks, and VanSumeren are all FA (or RFA)

Theres no way we can go into next camp with a one legged Dean and Trotter Jr.

I don't know what Burks will be looking for, but I'd say Baun is #1 as there is no identified replacement for him at all. 

At least with Becton we have Steen

I expect Baun, Burks, and VanSumeren to all be back.

10 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Mistakes like that were made before on bradberry and slay… learn from history

The difference is that we are only talking about single year commitments, nothing multi year.  Both Graham and Slay have indicated that they only want to play one more year.  With that said, either or both could drop off the planet in their performance, but that is true with any free agent as well … and a drafted player will have a learning curve.  So I’m comfortable using both Graham and Slay both as players and mentors in 2026.

10 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

I think Slay will cost too much. If you want to re-sign other guys then Slay will have to go

Slay’s cost will be a factor, but we are committed to that cost regardless of whether he is on the roster or not on the roster.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

When it comes to Zack Baun, how much consideration will there be that prior to this year, he was a nobody? Is there any worry that 2025 was a flash in the pan? He had more tackles in his first 10 Eagles games then he did over his first 4 seasons combined. I posted a few of his pre-draft profiles a few days back and the consensus was he's got the potential to be a stud, so I'm assuming all he needed was the right situation to flourish, and that was here. What in the world were the Saints doing with him?

Has there ever been a player that was so invisible with another team and then once he moved he was a completely different player? Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone. We saw the opposite with DeMarco Murray. 

Johnny Unitas.

Evan Mathis.

Kurt Warner.

 

 

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Watch Landon Dickerson make a block that is the OL equivalent to Saquon's backwards hurdle. On a knee that needs surgery, no less. Wow.

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Damn thats impressive

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Slay’s cost will be a factor, but we are committed to that cost regardless of whether he is on the roster or not on the roster.

Think so.  Roughly $29mm to be precise.  Slay almost has to come back under a restructure because JS/DS/JB/BG alone add up to $77mm in dead money if their contracts are terminated.

6 minutes ago, Miami said:

Think so.  Roughly $29mm to be precise.  Slay almost has to come back under a restructure because JS/DS/JB/BG alone add up to $77mm in dead money if their contracts are terminated.

Yeah I heard something similar. Howie has these contracts with so many void years and balloon payments these days I don't even bother with it. My thesis is they can't sign everybody because of the cap

13 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Slay’s cost will be a factor, but we are committed to that cost regardless of whether he is on the roster or not on the roster.

Sorry.  Slay is actually $39mm.

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

That was why had a red mark on his forehead.  

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Might want to bring the helmets next year.

15 minutes ago, just relax said:

Johnny Unitas.

Evan Mathis.

Kurt Warner.

Good call on Evan Mathis.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Yeah I heard something similar. Howie has these contracts with so many void years and ballon payments these days I don't even bother with it. My thesis is they can't sign everybody because of the cap

For sure.  Howie will figure it out but how much dead money we absorb this year (and sequentially beyond) is going to impact which free agents we sign, a lot more than we think based on the preliminary numbers.  Didn't realize we were so long the void year strategy.

5 minutes ago, Miami said:

Sorry.  Slay is actually $39mm.

Spotrac has him listed as $13.8mm and OverTheCap has him listed as $13.765mm.  Where is your $39mm figure coming from?

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